[Mini 1835] - Everything Is A Lie Mafia 4 (Abandoned)

[House]

first stop evaluating my play

I meant stop evaluating my intelligence over play. You have all the right to question my line of think and pov.

it just started to feel your harassing me.

Not my intention at all.

When something is clear to me, I find it difficult to comprehend how others can't see it because I'm NOT the brightest crayon the box.

Also...

[House]

If every slot are transparent with their reads the strongest townreads are outed eventually.

There are good reasons to keep your strongest townreads close to the vest or make scum think they are snowing you.

If you are faux townreading scum to get their cooperation bussing, you will betray that by not putting them in the pool.

[Leather and Lace]

first stop evaluating my play

I meant stop evaluating my intelligence over play. You have all the right to question my line of think and pov.

it just started to feel your harassing me.

Not my intention at all.

When something is clear to me, I find it difficult to comprehend how others can't see it because I'm NOT the brightest crayon the box.

Also...

If every slot are transparent with their reads the strongest townreads are outed eventually.

There are good reasons to keep your strongest townreads close to the vest or make scum think they are snowing you.

If you are faux townreading scum to get their cooperation bussing, you will betray that by not putting them in the pool.

Sorry...

[Rylai and Lina]

There are good reasons to keep your strongest townreads close to the vest or make scum think they are snowing you.

If you are faux townreading scum to get their cooperation bussing, you will betray that by not putting them in the pool.

Transparency is the most important responsibility of town. I find this line of thinking and action more harmful to town but I have no intention to argue about it with someone as tunnel visioned like you tonight. I'm tired and the baby is not calm.

[Vedith]

Catch up later / tomorrow.
Weekend things

[Ircher]

Because shooting jesters and such don't allow them to fulfill their win con, no?

~Leather

So we waste a shot instead of just voting them because you don't want them to win? Town are able to win with Jesters/Lynchers right? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Newsflash for you: Town loses a death due to the mafia nk. Lynching jesters does not help town.

[Ircher]

I think it's better if I wait until at least tomorrow to go into it any further than that.

This 100%.

Also,
VOTE: Flame for being difficult.

[Ircher]

Democracy is a part of this Counsel. Its not my choice to be so conservative. Make up your minds.

I told everything with absolute honesty. for confirming I have no control over the second vote

UNVOTE:
UNVOTE:

Will you pls vote Leather for wanting us to waste a dayvig shot?

[Ircher]

Whenever I make a proposal in this game, I need to do it using democracy and fair voting. I proposed the usage of my ability, so it must be voted by people.

For the second voter, as I said I know that information. I need a majority requesting for the data to expose them.

Accept

[Ircher]

The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out

VOTE: the counsel

you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuck

~Lina

The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.
That's why I just unvoted.

Who's scum cakez?

Save your shot until D2.

[Leather and Lace]

Because shooting jesters and such don't allow them to fulfill their win con, no?

~Leather

So we waste a shot instead of just voting them because you don't want them to win? Town are able to win with Jesters/Lynchers right? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Newsflash for you: Town loses a death due to the mafia nk. Lynching jesters does not help town.

I think it's better if I wait until at least tomorrow to go into it any further than that.

This 100%.

Also,
VOTE: Flame for being difficult.

Democracy is a part of this Counsel. Its not my choice to be so conservative. Make up your minds.

I told everything with absolute honesty. for confirming I have no control over the second vote

UNVOTE:
UNVOTE:

Will you pls vote Leather for wanting us to waste a dayvig shot?

So let me get this straight.

You agree with us that we shouldn't be wasting mislynches on 3p.
You call out Flame and vote him for being difficult in arguing with us about wasting mislynches.
Then you want Counsel to vote us for saying that we shouldn't be wasting mislynches and instead that we should be shooting 3p.

?????????????

[Ircher]

We shouldn't be shooting 3p at this point; thats the issue I have with you.

Xyzzy may be town, and I might have a way to prove that (or I might be lying).
The Counsel appears to have some pro-town ability and lynching it does not look like it will help you.

[Ircher]

*us.

[Leather and Lace]

1) Why not? I've already pointed out that 3p is simply a distraction for town. In EIAL 2 we indeed wasted mislynches on 3p.
2) We have reason to believe that there is more than one dayvig shot out there.

[Ircher]

The reason being, we dont know if they are truly 3p or not; anything could be possibly including the truth.

Shooting an actual town IC would significantly decrease our chance to win.

[Leather and Lace]

The Counsel appears to have some pro-town ability and lynching it does not look like it will help you.

This is bullshit.

The Counsel enables two hidden votes.

Anyone that seriously wants transparency in reads should want that slot dead on those ground alone.

The owner of the counsel is a double-voter, as is the private manipulator of the second vote.

Anyone that wants a fair voting process should want The Counsel dead on those grounds alone.

The Counsel has the power to recruit the private vote manipulator, effectively giving The Counsel access to four votes.

WHY DO WE NOT WANT TO KILL THIS THING?

[Leather and Lace]

To Hell with the IC, shoot or lynch The Counsel.

[SirCakez]

Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL

Are you saying you have no interest in The Counsel outing who privately controls their second vote?

I need that intent stated explicitly in order to believe it.

I am interested
They said the dead/wguerts controlled the account didn't they?

[Leather and Lace]

Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL

Are you saying you have no interest in The Counsel outing who privately controls their second vote?

I need that intent stated explicitly in order to believe it.

I am interested
They said the dead/wguerts controlled the account didn't they?

They did not.

That was about previous games. Idc about previous games. I'm playing this one.

[Leather and Lace]

SirCakes

Shos
Davsto

Leather and Lace

BulletNLynchproof

Rylai & Lina

Yume

farside22

Flames682
Vedith
KuroiXHF

Ircher

xyzzy

Everyone

: Give me a Yea on knowing the private voter or an amazing reason why we shouldn't.

Need one more to get that name.

[Flames682]

Yea to knowing the private voter

[Leather and Lace]

Yea to knowing the private voter

A majority has been reached.

[Flames682]

Both of Ircher's votes on someone else are just straight terrible.

[Leather and Lace]

I also believe The Counsel is scum controlled because requiring consensus on releasing pro-town information eats up a lot of day and sidelines town from scumhunting.

OTOH, I can't help but think that town would have spoken up and owned the vote so I'm guessing either The Counsel or the other private vote is controlled by 3P and the other is scum.

[farside22]

The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out

VOTE: the counsel

you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuck

~Lina

The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.
That's why I just unvoted.

Who's scum cakez?

The Counsel. Shoot them.

Let's wait on this a bit.

Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL

Is xyz in regards to ic or play?
Why bnl?

Adds ircher to scum list.