[Mini 1835] - Everything Is A Lie Mafia 4 (Abandoned)

[BNL]

Wgeurts pretty explicitly states the roles can be (and probably are) lying

Also before the game starts
I'm double Hated apparently

So you think that the roles are lies, but you don't doubt the double Hated part of your role?

VOTE: SirCakez

This is just super nitpickey, to the point of unnecessarily so.

But this was my RVS vote, so...?

or to follow any voting restriction players decide.

Let's see if this is true

The Counsel must vote itself at once

This triggered the zero weight vote on The Counsel.

What makes you think that the Counsel vote is submitted publicly?

1) Didnt feel like an rvs vote
2) Anythings possible.

1) Ok, it's not a completely RVS vote, it's one whose reasoning is semi-serious but not 100% serious and very weak, hence fit for RVS
2) I guess I'll forgive you on that point; you weren't in the previous EIAL game to know that the controlled Counsel vote was submitted privately

[BNL]

I dodnt think farside was a dayvig to begin with lol.
D1 shit like that happens all the time.

Since flames wagon doesnt seem to be viable, and same withL&L, im joining the NL wagon. This is L-1.

VOTE: bnl.
This is not a counterwagon-ahoy vote, in case youd think that.

I'm assuming NL = BNL?

If this isn't a counterwagon vote, then what is it?

No opinion on the MM either?

[Davsto]

this is not a prodge until i can maybe do something later

[BNL]

Huge scumread on the MM.

MM is certainly not a town dayvig, otherwise he wouldn't have responded in that manner. The only way he could be town is if farside was lying, which I heavily doubt; that's a really far-fetched gambit for town (or even scum) to fakeclaim dayvig for just a single reaction.

On the other hand, MM scum makes a lot of sense; what I feel is that he's scum with only daykill ability, and he's trying to deny it but farside took a different approach with it. Farside's dayvig claim had issues too: she was blindly following all the neg util players to claim their role in their first post, but dayvig isn't a role that you want to claim in your first post. Trying to use this to cover up for your shots makes sense.

[BNL]

Actually, is MM Jester possible? After all, he's said to have been following the game (which I feel is an OOC true thing), so he would have seen Farside's claim. Furthermore, the last line of 689 is just too ridiculous.

[The MM]

@697: You wouldn't lie and not go along with it, would ya?
@698: We're the same slot, not the same person. Farside was likely trying to scare scum, but I'm not playing to other people's gambits, even if I'm replacing into their slots. Also, since it's Everything Is A Lie, there might be shenanigans of the sort. I'm not putting anything out of wgeurts's reach.
@699, @701: Tunnelling detected.

@703: You seem to conclude I'm not town, just because I said I'm not a dayvig? You know that's opposite to what I said. Besides, if that gambit was farfetched even by scum standards, why are you slapping that on me?
For your daykill-scum hypothesis: if that was the case, any semi-intelligent scum would have done the kill fast (as in RVS-fast) as to lower the chances of being identified.
@704: I've been reading the game once, kind of as a pastime, because I was ready to replace on short notice for [our dearest / that damn] mod wgeurts, but not expecting or willing to enter the game biased. I wasn't playing on the sidelines and taking notes, much less keeping tracks on every claim.

[wgeurts]

So apparantly I have no vote now, or xyzzy removed his second vote or something.

There is surely some plot against me here ._.

There was an error, fixed it now.

[shos]

Whats with all thsetup specs,bnl? What sort of rolefishing is that lol
I never take dayvig claims seriously

And currently no real read on that slot, farside was reallinactive and i didnt read the post above me

[Rylai and Lina]

Actually, is MM Jester possible? After all, he's said to have been following the game (which I feel is an OOC true thing), so he would have seen Farside's claim. Furthermore, the last line of 689 is just too ridiculous.

Too many too ridiculous stuff are happening in this game tbh.

MM seems incredibly noob. anyone has meta with him?

[malpascp]

Hello guys

In regards to The Counsel's + shos's votey-stuff:

They/it claims it happened after this post:

or to follow any voting restriction players decide.

Let's see if this is true

The Counsel must vote itself at once

Guess what happened right after?

VOTE: wgeurts

Gotta try

Think it's pretty safe to say that for some reason him voting the mod gave him that hidden vote. Right?

[xyzzy]

that seems plausible, because I also voted the mod, and there's something going on with my vote as well.

[Rylai and Lina]

that seems plausible, because I also voted the mod, and there's something going on with my vote as well.

Thats not!

The vote changed from the counsel to shos later today without anyone voting mod! someone is defiantly responsible for that vote.

and I find it hard to believe your sincere with not knowing your a double voter.

[shos]

I didnt get any pm from the mod since then. I guess it is possible that vote is somehow related to my actions, but I dunno how

[House]

VOTE: BNL

G'day.

[Leather and Lace]

VOTE: BNL

G'day.

VOTE: BNL

[SirCakez]

VOTE: shos
let's go

No opinion on the MM?

Not really, farside didn't do anything
Did MM do something I missed?

[Rylai and Lina]

Did MM do something I missed?

siriously?

[malpascp]

That's a hammer right?

[Leather and Lace]

That's a hammer right?

Depends on whether you trust the mod.

[Flames682]

My personal idea would be some sort of mod lie (aka fake role) that got to farside, but not me.

I very much doubt this even if it is EIAL. I'm more inclined to believe farside simply fakeclaimed dayvig or you're lying about not being dayvig.

[shos]

I might have missed something that farside posted, because I reallt don't get why this thung is being discussed. Could anyone who actually thought farside was a trur dayvig explain what caused him to believe that?

I mean
Ive seen countless fake dayvig claims. Even made a billion. Why is this different?

[Rylai and Lina]

The fact she claimed it at day start and not trying to reaction test anyone with it?

thats not really different to you?

~Rylai

[Flames682]

The fact she claimed it at day start and not trying to reaction test anyone with it?

thats not really different to you?

~Rylai

What motivation do you think farside had to claim a dayvig at daystart?

[SirCakez]

Did MM do something I missed?

siriously?

yes
qq

[Flames682]

Did MM do something I missed?

siriously?

yes
qq

Basically said he wasn't dayvig and replaced farside who claimed she was dayvig.

Do you think farside rolled a role that could shoot people? Because I don't. My role PM doesn't indicate any sort of shooting ability.
So for all the love in the world you'll have to leave the shooting to those who can.