Okay. Good start, let's keep going. Who are those scum?In post 899, eagerSnake wrote:I mean I'd believe that scum is likely distributed: 1-2 scum on me, 0-1 scum on s_s, 0-2 scum off both
But that doesn't narrow anything down at this stage
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In post 894, Zoronos wrote:Based on his ISO, I feel that Shadow's actions comport with someone that was planning a counterclaim. Which means my prior scumreads were super wrong, but super wrong it is.
He didn't actually press snake all that hard. He's stated in 869 that all he got out of it was that Boring is town.
Keep in mind the context of a town!Shadow_Step this game. Leading up to when Shadow CC'd, Eageris 100% scumin his mind. If the only information he manged to gather before the CC is that Boring is town, he didn't get enough information to make a CC worthwhile.
This feels all the more scummy since Shadow said in 693 the "This is standard play when you have a guilty on someone. You try to get reads out of them so that you can easily find out who is most likely their buddy."
He didn't do that at all.
His reasoning for this is that "I didn't want Eager to know I was onto him." Bah. I call BS on that one. He's giving scum way too much credit.-
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1-2 Scum on me is in [boring, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald] All 3 of these nearly equally likely.
0-1 Scum on s_s is in [nn30, LUV] More likely LUV than nn30 IMO, but I could be wrong here, or they both could be town.
0-2 Scum off wagons is in [MariaR, implosion, Dierfire, Grendel, Prism, Zoronos] These I'm at a loss for.-
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He kept touchstoning Eager. 122, 168, 279, 280, 296.In post 902, nn30 wrote:In post 894, Zoronos wrote:Based on his ISO, I feel that Shadow's actions comport with someone that was planning a counterclaim. Which means my prior scumreads were super wrong, but super wrong it is.
He didn't actually press snake all that hard. He's stated in 869 that all he got out of it was that Boring is town.
Keep in mind the context of a town!Shadow_Step this game. Leading up to when Shadow CC'd, Eageris 100% scumin his mind. If the only information he manged to gather before the CC is that Boring is town, he didn't get enough information to make a CC worthwhile.
This feels all the more scummy since Shadow said in 693 the "This is standard play when you have a guilty on someone. You try to get reads out of them so that you can easily find out who is most likely their buddy."
He didn't do that at all.
His reasoning for this is that "I didn't want Eager to know I was onto him." Bah. I call BS on that one. He's giving scum way too much credit.
401, 413, 415, 418. I'm stopping at the point of the CC, for obvious reasons.
He tried to build a train on Penguin based on Penguin ignoring (343) a question about Eager, asked in 263.
In [post]169[/[post] he explicitly foreshadows a delayed counterclaim.
Town!SS didn't feel a need to bury Eager manually because he believed he had a CC for that.
This was either planned out from the very beginning of the game, or SS is legit.-
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Is that literally just a list of the entire game, excepting you and SS?In post 903, eagerSnake wrote:1-2 Scum on me is in [boring, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald] All 3 of these nearly equally likely.
0-1 Scum on s_s is in [nn30, LUV] More likely LUV than nn30 IMO, but I could be wrong here, or they both could be town.
0-2 Scum off wagons is in [MariaR, implosion, Dierfire, Grendel, Prism, Zoronos] These I'm at a loss for.
1-2 Scum on me is in [boring, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald] All 3 of these nearly equally likely.0-1 Scum on s_s is in [nn30, LUV] More likely LUV than nn30 IMO, but I could be wrong here, or they both could be town.0-2 Scum off wagons is in [MariaR, implosion, Dierfire, Grendel, Prism, Zoronos] These I'm at a loss for.
Come the heck on man.
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Jeeeez this is terrible. When did I say all my reads are based in Eager's interactions with them?
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What do you want from me?
I had my vote on boring all day and nobody even nibbled at it, usually I would think scum would at least take a nibble at it. This makes it more likely boring is scum. Also boring seems happy with this conflict and jumped on me without any question, also used the gambler's fallacy to her own defense.-
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Why would he pull the trigger now? After not having gained much information?In post 904, Zoronos wrote:
He kept touchstoning Eager. 122, 168, 279, 280, 296.In post 902, nn30 wrote:In post 894, Zoronos wrote:Based on his ISO, I feel that Shadow's actions comport with someone that was planning a counterclaim. Which means my prior scumreads were super wrong, but super wrong it is.
He didn't actually press snake all that hard. He's stated in 869 that all he got out of it was that Boring is town.
Keep in mind the context of a town!Shadow_Step this game. Leading up to when Shadow CC'd, Eageris 100% scumin his mind. If the only information he manged to gather before the CC is that Boring is town, he didn't get enough information to make a CC worthwhile.
This feels all the more scummy since Shadow said in 693 the "This is standard play when you have a guilty on someone. You try to get reads out of them so that you can easily find out who is most likely their buddy."
He didn't do that at all.
His reasoning for this is that "I didn't want Eager to know I was onto him." Bah. I call BS on that one. He's giving scum way too much credit.
401, 413, 415, 418. I'm stopping at the point of the CC, for obvious reasons.
He tried to build a train on Penguin based on Penguin ignoring (343) a question about Eager, asked in 263.
In [post]169[/[post] he explicitly foreshadows a delayed counterclaim.
Town!SS didn't feel a need to bury Eager manually because he believed he had a CC for that.
This was either planned out from the very beginning of the game, or SS is legit.-
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nn you are seriously thick.
This is day 1. I tried several times for reads from eager. He either kept giving in related responses or avoiding it all together and he was getting away with all of it cause lol day 1. What the hell did you expect me to do ask his read on every player till he does, keep shouting at him? You are being extremely unreasonable.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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OMG nn you are biggest dumbfuck ever.
You want me claim ascetic on day 6?
Or, " I don't have enough info yet, so let's on scum eager live another day and lynch someone else." That's what you expect me to do? Are you that fucking dense?ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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Okay, let's talk more about this. What other posts of Boring's make you think she's scum? Anything from before the counterclaim-athon?In post 907, eagerSnake wrote:What do you want from me?
I had my vote on boring all day and nobody even nibbled at it, usually I would think scum would at least take a nibble at it. This makes it more likely boring is scum. Also boring seems happy with this conflict and jumped on me without any question, also used the gambler's fallacy to her own defense.-
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We'll see about that after we lynch eager.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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That was in response to Prism ^ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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It seemed implied and either way, I never said that was my reason for voting for you.In post 906, Shadow_step wrote:Jeeeez this is terrible. When did I say all my reads are based in Eager's interactions with them?
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She seemed to be trying to buddy me at the start of the game, and when realized that wasn't going to work went the other routeIn post 913, Zoronos wrote:
Okay, let's talk more about this. What other posts of Boring's make you think she's scum? Anything from before the counterclaim-athon?In post 907, eagerSnake wrote:What do you want from me?
I had my vote on boring all day and nobody even nibbled at it, usually I would think scum would at least take a nibble at it. This makes it more likely boring is scum. Also boring seems happy with this conflict and jumped on me without any question, also used the gambler's fallacy to her own defense.-
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303 and 322 is where I laid out my reasoning for it. Can't speak for others.In post 912, Prism wrote:I've got a few things I want to respond to later but for now why are people assuming nn30 is town again?-
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Can you show me where that happened?In post 917, eagerSnake wrote:
She seemed to be trying to buddy me at the start of the game, and when realized that wasn't going to work went the other routeIn post 913, Zoronos wrote:
Okay, let's talk more about this. What other posts of Boring's make you think she's scum? Anything from before the counterclaim-athon?In post 907, eagerSnake wrote:What do you want from me?
I had my vote on boring all day and nobody even nibbled at it, usually I would think scum would at least take a nibble at it. This makes it more likely boring is scum. Also boring seems happy with this conflict and jumped on me without any question, also used the gambler's fallacy to her own defense.-
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I think it's obvious why Eager has given up and is not pushing anyone(he believes he is town so he should be pushing his scum reads regardless of the wagon on him). It is because he doesn't want to give us insight into who might/might not be his buddies.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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Then what is the reason Sherlock?In post 916, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
It seemed implied and either way, I never said that was my reason for voting for you.In post 906, Shadow_step wrote:Jeeeez this is terrible. When did I say all my reads are based in Eager's interactions with them?
Did you iso me? You think I'm scum and ccing eager under no pressure when I didn't need to ?ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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I have no idea how that comes across as buddying.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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