Mini 1836: Space Mafia (Game Over)

PantherPunt · Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:31 am

In post 357, Nosferatu wrote:vig you know what you need to do

nobody brought this up either, but in the realm of potential slips, this could be a slip that mafia has a doctor...

assuming there's a vig in a 13er is weird. I mean it's not impossible for town to do, but it stuck out loudly to me

PantherPunt · Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:33 am

In post 1198, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1195, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1190, TwoFace wrote:weird I am your top town read. I mean yeah awesome woo hoo,
but I haven't played a great game so it's weird.

I also don't like the idea of everyone sharing as many reads as they can at this point in the game, mainly cause I am against people doing it at any stage of the game. I have this weird thing about list reads

weird thing to say when there haven't been any flips
....
points to anyone who can say why

elaboration would be ideal...
it's not weird at all actually. being right/wrong isn't the only criteria for playing a good game.

why do you think you haven't played a good game though?

PantherPunt · Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:35 am

gerry is ok for now

PantherPunt · Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:37 am

barely into my xkf iso just need to say...if maf team is dunn, pip, xkf... lol you guys for playing this way d1

but nos

Nosferatu · Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:39 am

In post 1199, PantherPunt wrote:I don't like Nos's iso at all.

RVS vote

couple catch up posts that are commentary mode. little quips but no actual analysis that I see, and no follow up on anything that resembles analysis. like just posting bc he knows he needs to post. throws shade in various directions but never makes a push.

says he thinks naomi and massive are both scummy but can't be scum together, but when he later unvotes massive, he says "just been sitting on rvs vote so I'll take it off"

I was really pinged out by him saying he doesn't have reads on main wagons so he can't vote. subsequently followed up by finding one thing to pick out to vote dunn for

is problem for me

I mean the purpose of ISOing dunn and Zach was to find a reason to vote one of them cause we need a lynch and deadline is coming up, so yeah that's exactly what I did.

In post 1200, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 357, Nosferatu wrote:vig you know what you need to do
nobody brought this up either, but in the realm of potential slips, this could be a slip that mafia has a doctor...

assuming there's a vig in a 13er is weird. I mean it's not impossible for town to do, but it stuck out loudly to me

wasn't assuming there was a vig but ok

TwoFace · Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:41 am

In post 1200, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 357, Nosferatu wrote:vig you know what you need to do
nobody brought this up either, but in the realm of potential slips, this could be a slip that mafia has a doctor...

assuming there's a vig in a 13er is weird. I mean it's not impossible for town to do, but it stuck out loudly to me

not really, making a plea to the vig is very commonplace on this site.

TwoFace · Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:42 am

In post 1201, PantherPunt wrote:why do you think you haven't played a good game though?

cause I am not giving it 100%, i'm playing at about 50 to 60% right now

PantherPunt · Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:44 am

In post 1204, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1199, PantherPunt wrote:I don't like Nos's iso at all.

RVS vote

couple catch up posts that are commentary mode. little quips but no actual analysis that I see, and no follow up on anything that resembles analysis. like just posting bc he knows he needs to post. throws shade in various directions but never makes a push.

says he thinks naomi and massive are both scummy but can't be scum together, but when he later unvotes massive, he says "just been sitting on rvs vote so I'll take it off"

I was really pinged out by him saying he doesn't have reads on main wagons so he can't vote. subsequently followed up by finding one thing to pick out to vote dunn for

is problem for me
I mean the purpose of ISOing dunn and Zach was to find a reason to vote one of them cause we need a lynch and deadline is coming up, so yeah that's exactly what I did.

Did you think Zack was towny after his ISO?

Was what you grabbed the only thing that pointed you toward Dunn? It was literally one example of "read A scum for X but didn't read B scum for it" and I personally strongly dislike that reasoning for a scumread

so, anything else on Dunn?

PantherPunt · Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:45 am

In post 1206, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1201, PantherPunt wrote:why do you think you haven't played a good game though?
cause I am not giving it 100%, i'm playing at about 50 to 60% right now

interesting when you're post count leader by 100+ in a game with Dunn

PantherPunt · Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:47 am

after finishing xkf's whole ISO, I didn't say "town"

which is a bad thing based on my experience with him

PantherPunt · Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:49 am

@xkfyu

In post 85, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 66, Alabaska J wrote:What you are sayin is equivalent to "why scum hunt at all?"
That's not at all what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is more equivalent to "don't use meta to scum hunt at all."

why haven't you taken issue with Dunn voting Zach purely off of meta with no other explanation?

TwoFace · Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:06 am

In post 1208, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1206, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1201, PantherPunt wrote:why do you think you haven't played a good game though?
cause I am not giving it 100%, i'm playing at about 50 to 60% right now
interesting when you're post count leader by 100+ in a game with Dunn

quantity > quality

TwoFace · Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:07 am

In post 1210, PantherPunt wrote:why haven't you taken issue with Dunn voting Zach purely off of meta with no other explanation?

i'd actually like itlepip to answer also because I don't care how hard you town read somebody, this is never an acceptable reason to lynch somebody.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:14 am

what is a runaway wagon

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:15 am

In post 1194, PantherPunt wrote:
it has had a lot of time to build, but the lack of a counter still gives me pause. unless zach is the counter scum were going for..but you'd think they'd have another option among the pool of 10 that more people might be willing to vote.

plenty of people are willing to vote old zach

Dunnstral · Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:25 am

In post 1167, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 1161, PantherPunt wrote:@massive
@naomi
@gerry
you are sitting on off-wagon wasted votes.
what's your read on itlepip? on dunnstral?
Are you also not on an off wagon?

I feel fine on itlepip I think they are trying at least. Dunnstral.. I think i'll vote for today as between zach and dunn I feel zach is more likely to be town aligned.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Dunnstral IS NOW L-1

Why did you vote me, again?

I'm hoping I wasn't hammered yet. Wondering why Panther is voting itlepip instead of me, and why he ignored me asking for a read on Zach

Dunnstral · Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:26 am

I'm a friendly neighbor; can we get off me now and get my reads

Dunnstral · Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:28 am

In post 1173, Zachstralkita wrote:I'd rather not let Dunn weasel his way out of this one, I think I'm pretty on point with this one

You literally omgus voted me

Nosferatu · Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:30 am

In post 1207, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1204, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1199, PantherPunt wrote:I don't like Nos's iso at all.

RVS vote

couple catch up posts that are commentary mode. little quips but no actual analysis that I see, and no follow up on anything that resembles analysis. like just posting bc he knows he needs to post. throws shade in various directions but never makes a push.

says he thinks naomi and massive are both scummy but can't be scum together, but when he later unvotes massive, he says "just been sitting on rvs vote so I'll take it off"

I was really pinged out by him saying he doesn't have reads on main wagons so he can't vote. subsequently followed up by finding one thing to pick out to vote dunn for

is problem for me
I mean the purpose of ISOing dunn and Zach was to find a reason to vote one of them cause we need a lynch and deadline is coming up, so yeah that's exactly what I did.
Did you think Zack was towny after his ISO?

Was what you grabbed the only thing that pointed you toward Dunn? It was literally one example of "read A scum for X but didn't read B scum for it" and I personally strongly dislike that reasoning for a scumread

so, anything else on Dunn?

In post 1181, Nosferatu wrote:ok. There are like 70 some instances of "zach" in dunn's ISO and they are literally all just calling him scum because "his aura is off". And then his explanation for this is because of one game where zach was scum and brushed dunn off.

This looks like either a. dunn trying to confbias himself into a genuine scumread on Zach by saying he's scum over and over again (fake it 'til you make it) b. Dunn is town and is deathtunneling the fuck out of Zach.

In post 1182, Nosferatu wrote:Considering I don't remember dunn having a propensity for such actions in the games I've previously played with him, I'm gonna stick to a.

I don't have a really strong scum read on dunn, but of the wagons here, he's the lynch I think has the highest probability of flipping scum. Ergo I'm voting him. If someone I think is scummier comes up, I'll consider it, but otherwise no.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:30 am

In post 1188, PantherPunt wrote:I almost voted Dunn multiple times yesterday but runaway wagons are bad, even when they're on scum imho

Ideally I want to see this VC end at 7-6. So a counter wagon is needed and I don't believe you're the best counterwagon.

Why haven't you looked at Zach?

Nosferatu · Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:31 am

actually consider's a bad word but you get the gist. We need a lynch today and this is the best option out of the main choices, it's too late for vanity wagons.

TwoFace · Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:32 am

In post 1217, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1173, Zachstralkita wrote:I'd rather not let Dunn weasel his way out of this one, I think I'm pretty on point with this one
You literally omgus voted me

what does him omgus voting you have to do with anything?

Dunnstral · Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:32 am

In post 1200, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 357, Nosferatu wrote:vig you know what you need to do
nobody brought this up either, but in the realm of potential slips, this could be a slip that mafia has a doctor...

assuming there's a vig in a 13er is weird. I mean it's not impossible for town to do, but it stuck out loudly to me

Good catch

Something to think about if a scum doctor flips

Dunnstral · Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:34 am

In post 1220, Nosferatu wrote:actually consider's a bad word but you get the gist. We need a lynch today and this is the best option out of the main choices, it's too late for vanity wagons.

? I'm a friendly neighbor

Give more than 1 read

TwoFace wrote:
In post 1217, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1173, Zachstralkita wrote:I'd rather not let Dunn weasel his way out of this one, I think I'm pretty on point with this one
You literally omgus voted me
what does him omgus voting you have to do with anything?

He acted like he started a wagon based on my play

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:35 am

In post 1217, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1173, Zachstralkita wrote:I'd rather not let Dunn weasel his way out of this one, I think I'm pretty on point with this one
You literally omgus voted me

No I didn't you clown if I OMGUS voted you I would have voted you right after you voted me simply for voting me.

Are you all just going to fucking ignore how he's lying?