[Mini 1835] - Everything Is A Lie Mafia 4 (Abandoned)

Flames682 · Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:57 am

In post 1348, SirCakez wrote:So almost certainly scum in Vedith and Flames, interesting

I thought you said you wouldn't do setup spec?

malpascp · Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:05 pm

VOTE: Vedith

Being in a masonry isn't scummy.
Using the lie detector (if it's actually a thing) on that post from Ircher is beyond nonsensical.

ISO · Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:07 pm

In post 1343, Leather and Lace wrote:
In post 1342, Ircher wrote:@SirCakez -- Stuff that comes from the mod are more easily proven / more likely to be true. Maybe not this game, but .......

Pedit: Tbh, I lost my feel for thus game. Indeed I was, but it's really apathy at this point thats kicking in.
What does that mean? That you were scumreading us because you started feeling apathetic?

I wasn't clear; I meant that I'm not really going to in-depth right now. Some of the reads are whimsical and could change at a second's notice.

Vedith · Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:17 pm

In post 1351, malpascp wrote:VOTE: Vedith

Being in a masonry isn't scummy.
Using the lie detector (if it's actually a thing) on that post from Ircher is beyond nonsensical.

If you actually believe I did it, that alone should spell out town as there would be no reason to claim it as scum, absolutely none.
On the other hand, there's absolutely no reason for me to make the role up as scum.

I can see scum going for the push on my lynch and when proven wrong, they will either blame me for picking the post or have some sort of excuse.
I know this as I'm holding my Mafia crystal ball.

Btw, don't take this comment as me thinking that you're scum. Your slot is 100% town thanks to Yume, but not thanks to you.

Flames682 · Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:22 pm

In post 1353, Vedith wrote:Your slot is 100% town thanks to Yume, but not thanks to you.

What?

Flames682 · Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:24 pm

In post 1167, Vedith wrote:Well if you think that they should claim, then I'm a mason.
The other mason has already said that they don't want to reveal today, but the lack of communication and from that with Sho's post saying that they could be traitor makes me wonder.

I'm wondering why Vedith never considered the possibility of more than one scum in the mason chat until someone brought it up. Prior to shos's post he said in the PT that he was certain I was town because Kuroi had outed himself.

Vedith · Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:24 pm

I'm going to bed.
To clarify on the Yume slot.
Yume would not make up miller as scum.
Yume also would not reveal this information if in a different scum team (Werewolves / Aliens).
That I'm 100% sure of.

Pedit - For that reason exactly.

ISO · Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:26 pm

In post 1350, Flames682 wrote:
In post 1348, SirCakez wrote:So almost certainly scum in Vedith and Flames, interesting
I thought you said you wouldn't do setup spec?

Yes, but this is something I feel confident on as opposed to guessing how many of each scum there are

Vedith · Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:27 pm

In post 1355, Flames682 wrote:I'm wondering why Vedith never considered the possibility of more than one scum in the mason chat until someone brought it up. Prior to shos's post he said in the PT that he was certain I was town because Kuroi had outed himself.

Because apparently previous versions there were 3 in the PT.
I didn't play previous versions, this is why I said multiple times that I suspect that 1 was scum in the PT.

That

is why I didn't think that there were 2 scum. 2 town with a Werewolf converter made sense as they would relay all the information gained from us. However, previous games say otherwise.

Vedith · Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:35 pm

Wait, that's not right. the comment was after.

xyzzy · Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:49 pm

I'm not sure how many votes this is, but I'm pretty sure we're still a while away from reading a lynch, so

VOTE: Vedith

Flames682 · Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:03 pm

In post 1358, Vedith wrote:
In post 1355, Flames682 wrote:I'm wondering why Vedith never considered the possibility of more than one scum in the mason chat until someone brought it up. Prior to shos's post he said in the PT that he was certain I was town because Kuroi had outed himself.
Because apparently previous versions there were 3 in the PT.
I didn't play previous versions, this is why I said multiple times that I suspect that 1 was scum in the PT.

That
is why I didn't think that there were 2 scum. 2 town with a Werewolf converter made sense as they would relay all the information gained from us. However, previous games say otherwise.

Who brought up that multiple scum were in one PT in previous games? Quote it.

shos · Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:17 pm

If my memory serves right, last game we had a 2-scum masonry. I think I brought it up.

This discussion goes the right way and vedith should be lynched.

Kthxbai, i to flight mode

The MM · Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:48 pm

In post 1158, BNL wrote:You claimed Not Dayvig, your predecessor claimed Dayvig, how is that not scummy?

First off, explain how in the blue hell you were not lynched.

My hitch is you could be lynchproof (1-shot or nay), or you could have a scumpartner that defuses bus wagons when they do happen (im sure wgeurts has a mind twisted enough to put THIS as a 1-shot in the game, infinite would be too damn strong).

To quote one post:

Flames682 wrote:
In post 1353, Vedith wrote:Your slot is 100% town thanks to Yume, but not thanks to you.
What?

Yume being Town was written, sure, but not in mod color of truth. Can't trust this.

The MM · Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:55 pm

In post 1363, The MM wrote:To quote one post:
Flames682 wrote:
In post 1353, Vedith wrote:Your slot is 100% town thanks to Yume, but not thanks to you.
What?
Yume being Town was written, sure, but not in mod color of truth. Can't trust this.

Even worse, xyzzy was the (fake?) IC.
Yume wasn't conftown in any way, shape or form; not trusting Flames for this blind declaration as if it was truth.

I realize I skipped 5 pages, so another incoming post to check if anything peeves me.

Flames682 · Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:07 pm

Uh, I wasn't the one that said he was 100% town, I was questioning Vedith on why he thought that.

The MM · Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:17 pm

In post 1230, Vedith wrote:Damn, Shos caught me out!

Saying that implies that Vedith either is a lynchee or wants to get lynched for any other reason. Fake "they got me!" scum post is fake. I wouldn't be astonished of a Jester!Vedith, even if he was jester the only other time I played "with" him.

In post 1233, shos wrote:
In post 1077, The Counsel wrote:The information is : An investigation targeting xyzzy yielded "no result".
We won't talk about the information source -even that we know it or not- unless a majority asks us to.
in another note L&L must be a part of counsel if nothing interfered with the chairman actions. L&L confirm or deny this please.
Omfg.
We literally had enough votes to reveal "the information". Why did you not count this inside "the information"?? What POSSIBLE toen intent can you fucking have?

Don't ask. My opinion is that The Counsel is stalling everything they say under a pretense that is classified as obsolete. And since they just brushed off my post that said so with a "wgeurts didn't kill me for it so its fine", I'm left wondering why they don't try to abuse this stuff instead of playing stall the game like they do. The Counsel is more like the cancer of the game from a game-life standpoint: they make points far overstay their welcome.

In post 1235, Davsto wrote:
In post 1229, shos wrote:based on..?
Two things, neither of which are worth disclosing for now since he's not at risk of lynching so who cares

Usually, the solution to that is to put them at L-2 to get the damn info!

In post 1324, Vedith wrote:
In post 1323, SirCakez wrote:wtf did you guys do ugh
Have you read about me getting back from mod that there are 3 town between me, you, Flames, Rylai & Lina and MM?
What's your opinion on that?

Was it written in orange in the first place?

In post 1330, Vedith wrote:
In post 1329, SirCakez wrote:The problem is we have no way of telling which ones are true and which aren't
Some are probably true yeah, but which ones?

And not all powers revolve around results....
All my powers do, and by the looks of it many others do.
We have a guilty
We have a not guilty
We have 3 town of out 5 players
We have a truth post from Ircher

Yet none of this is being considered in the game.

Because it's likely half of them are just plain wrong.

Flames682 wrote:Uh, I wasn't the one that said he was 100% town, I was questioning Vedith on why he thought that.

Um, then that means I'm questioning Vedith instead for assuming that so blindly, not you.

Vedith · Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:48 pm

In post 1365, Flames682 wrote:Uh, I wasn't the one that said he was 100% town, I was questioning Vedith on why he thought that.

This is 100% from my opinion. Not 100% from mod confirmation.

If I was scum, I'd be running rings around this player list right now...

@Flames - What's your view on me and the situation on having 2 scum in the Mason group?
I'd be interested to see if you feel this situation diserves a vote on me or not.

ISO · Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:55 am

Yeah BNL tf was up with the lynch failing?
If you're town not revealing that was anti town as hell

Vedith · Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:09 am

Why are you only concerned with this now?

BNL · Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:34 am

In post 1161, shos wrote:You guys sure post a lot
Final day of vacation, ill read up tomorrow.
Is the DL really 5 hours? Is that because BNL is already lynched?

Were you able to access MS before this after D2 started?

BNL · Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:35 am

In post 1178, Vedith wrote:
In post 1177, Rylai and Lina wrote:How are you sure that your lie detector result is not vise versa ... >.>
Because of things.

I'm still confused. Is your reason based on your role/setup spec or not?

BNL · Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:40 am

In post 1276, Vedith wrote:
In post 1274, shos wrote:"I am town"
I cannot do I am town/scum posts.
This is why I asked Rylai & Lina who was in their PT hoping they would answer before day end.

Why didn't you claim this when you first claimed lie detector?

BNL · Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:44 am

In post 1346, Flames682 wrote:Kuroi, Vedith, and I are masons.

Last night Vedith said he has a lie detector and instructed us to post that we weren't in any other PTs. However, I'm wondering why he lie detected Ircher's post if he said he would use it on us last night.

Is it true that you were initially unwilling to claim, and if so, why?

ISO · Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:46 am

In post 1364, The MM wrote:
In post 1363, The MM wrote:To quote one post:
Flames682 wrote:
In post 1353, Vedith wrote:Your slot is 100% town thanks to Yume, but not thanks to you.
What?
Yume being Town was written, sure, but not in mod color of truth. Can't trust this.
Even worse, xyzzy was the (fake?) IC.
Yume wasn't conftown in any way, shape or form; not trusting Flames for this blind declaration as if it was truth.

I realize I skipped 5 pages, so another incoming post to check if anything peeves me.

??? when was Yume conftown?