I just read this ISO and I want to kill nowIn post 1672, TwoFace wrote:Mental note. ISO grapes soon
VOTE: grapes
I just read this ISO and I want to kill nowIn post 1672, TwoFace wrote:Mental note. ISO grapes soon
quoting Naomi here and critiquing/shading her for thinking Maria is town bc Maria townreads NaomiIn post 838, grapes wrote:She's town because she thinks your town. Am I getting the gist of this paragraph here?MariaR
<Pre-Iso*> Pretty much what I expect out of MariaR will be later in the game where I can work her out.. so yeah
<Post-Iso> Sigh.. Okay one of my stronger green! reads. MariaR has played with me before and understands sorta how I act/play the game and If she was !red motivated I feel she would be taking what would be a nearly free lynch on her part. The fact she stepped upto the plate to defend me just confirms her Green status to me. as there is no major !Red motivation for doing so.
wants Naomi to townread him because he gave her a chance.In post 1533, grapes wrote:Naomi, there's no way you could think I'm scum. Nobody else in the game gave you a chance.
Vig and friendly neighbor in the same setup doesn't make a lot of sense to me either but meh. I haven't played an SS game before.
Do you think he could be scum with Gerry?In post 1675, PantherPunt wrote:I just read this ISO and I want to kill nowIn post 1672, TwoFace wrote:Mental note. ISO grapes soon
VOTE: grapes
Well, given the roleclaim isn't something good to fake-claim and I was greenish reading grapes before hand, I just thought it was more likely to be a roleblock as it would benefit reds to miss lead in this way. If it was me i'd voted him right off I didn't consider RB until it got brought up and I got the mod to confirm it. but as they was both kinda null // Slight green I think a RB was more likely.In post 1666, PantherPunt wrote:In post 1619, Naomi-Tan wrote:Grapes. I believe its a roleblocker. given both your reactions. but if that wasn't a thing then I'd go with You being Red! its far more likely you lied about not getting his pm than him making that fake claim.explain what this means and what you're saying hereIn post 1621, grapes wrote:Why is it not equally likelythat we'd want to trade, naomi?
Your thought process makes no sense.
and that was my response to his comment if you missed it.In post 1628, Naomi-Tan wrote:because if you trade (Red!Dunn X Red!grapes where one lynches the other), you lynch Dunn. Resulting in unconfirmed Grapes (still) or you'd get yourself lynched and we get Confirmed!dunn but If you wanted to confirm Dunn you could do so just by saying you got the pm and not lose a team member in the process.In post 1621, grapes wrote:Why is it not equally likely that we'd want to trade, naomi?
Your thought process makes no sense.
Nah man. We're lynching Gerry today.In post 1675, PantherPunt wrote:I just read this ISO and I want to kill nowIn post 1672, TwoFace wrote:Mental note. ISO grapes soon
VOTE: grapes
When I get the chance I must do another big read ISO.In post 1628, Naomi-Tan wrote:because if you trade (Red!Dunn X Red!grapes where one lynches the other), you lynch Dunn. Resulting in unconfirmed Grapes (still) or you'd get yourself lynched and we get Confirmed!dunn but If you wanted to confirm Dunn you could do so just by saying you got the pm and not lose a team member in the process.In post 1621, grapes wrote:Why is it not equally likely that we'd want to trade, naomi?
Your thought process makes no sense.
You started throwing doubt because you knew I was roleblocked, but it's before Grapes posted. That's what I'm sayingIn post 1660, PantherPunt wrote:Explain how that "looks bad"In post 1558, Dunnstral wrote: Panther prodding me about my visit target and then not responding to that anymore after Grapes came on also looks bad. He knew that one way or another Grapes would be saying they recieved no message. Same with Nosferatu to a lesser extent
When people claim actions, I ask why they did what they did to see if they have an explanation that makes sense and shows that thought was given. It's something that should be asked to every single action claim.
You need to put into words why that's bad
Bad look for who? Also I disagree that this is indicative from the modIn post 1663, PantherPunt wrote:Speculative - mod not knowing what Naomi is referring to here is a bad look.In post 1598, Something_Smart wrote:In post 1597, Naomi-Tan wrote:@Mod; In the hypothetical situation that a messenger was roleblocked during this can would they be informed that there action failed?Can you clarify what you mean by "messenger"?
It also is pretty modspewy that Naomi is town. Sorry I'm not sorry for the angleshot.
Why does it matter if it makes sense if Grapes came back with the resultIn post 1664, PantherPunt wrote:When you are locked into a read you haven't explained, and are not pushing/probing/solving any other players, is it not appropriate to ask questions as to the basis of that read to try to figure out if I can get behind it or if it's completely made up? That's not appropriate?In post 1612, Dunnstral wrote:But I've given plenty of reasons. I'll recap for you:
Panther replaces in, immediately goes hard on me, asking me tons of questions. Says nothing to Zach; minimal interaction between the two at all
I call it out, say Panther and Zach are scum, Panther gets defensive of both himself and Zach. Still won't look over Zach fairly
Panther votes itlepip and MariaR as wagons near deadline. Both of these people thought Zach was scum and I was town. Both of these people are now dead.
If you're curious I invite you to go over Panther's iso and look over his interactions with Zach. Go over Zach's iso and look at his interactions with Panther. They're scum
Panther was questioning me before grapes had even revealed that they didn't get a message. Still don't understand the purpose of this questionIn post 1479, PantherPunt wrote:What made you pick grapesIn post 1475, Dunnstral wrote:I visited Grapes
Between Zach and Panther, Panther seems more likely to happen. I'd be voting Zach if it would lead to his lynch
Now, as I've locked down 2/3 scum, you can see why I'm, hesitant to consider one of gerry/massive to be the last scum. And why should I chance it? If they're town what does that reveal?
I was trying to look at Zach by way of asking you 57 times to give me some level of explanation of your read. I read his posts and didn't want to lynch him - simple as that. You had an opportunity to talk about him and you refused time after time after time after time. Mafia isn't about just having reads it's very much moreso about effectively communicating them. You failed miserably.
Voting itlepip was a product of him similarly looking scummy and lacking explanations. Maria was an attempt to avoid a no lynch based on the votecount when I was in thread trying very hard to avoid a no lynch. You voted Nos by yourself, only mentioned it as consolidation you were cool with, and left. Nobody else voted there and you don't get to bitch about that whatsoever. You were a major factor in no lynch happening and you're lucky you weren't lynched.
I questioned why you targeted who you targeted because I was giving thought to what targets made sense and which would not. I wanted to see if you gave the target some thought and could explain it. It's something that needed to be questioned. I don't understand why asking you that question is anything alignment indicative in the slightest. It's towny bc it came from me but it sure as shit isn't something that you are justified in shading me for
Why were you voting Naomi day start.
So you decide to vote grapesIn post 1670, PantherPunt wrote:if dunn is actually legit and as much as I hate to say it I think it's slightly more probable in a vaccuum
then I feel strongly about twoface, naomi, dunn
that unfortunately leaves 6
PantherPunt wrote:In post 1591, Zachstralkita wrote:What the fuck did I walk back into
VOTE: Dunn
we have practically conf scum??these are badIn post 1596, Zachstralkita wrote:He is faking probably.
I know if I did that you all would be speedlynching me.
His decent skills as an orator are the fragile threads preventing his existence from being obliterated
aside from that clearly you know manufactured push on Panther and I
Go onIn post 1689, Zachstralkita wrote:along with the many other things dunn has misrepped
I don't think soIn post 1658, Toto wrote:Dunn, is it possible that you and Zach are both town and you mis-read him?
@Grapes: why is gerry scum only if Dunn is town?
I could see how it could look "modspewy" ....but only if you already knew that Naomi is town.In post 1683, Dunnstral wrote:Bad look for who? Also I disagree that this is indicative from the modIn post 1663, PantherPunt wrote:Speculative - mod not knowing what Naomi is referring to here is a bad look.In post 1598, Something_Smart wrote:In post 1597, Naomi-Tan wrote:@Mod; In the hypothetical situation that a messenger was roleblocked during this can would they be informed that there action failed?Can you clarify what you mean by "messenger"?
It also is pretty modspewy that Naomi is town. Sorry I'm not sorry for the angleshot.
Vote Gerry with us.
all i know is that you post a lot in succession and also somehow make it look like you're doing something. you also insist on not using periods(rarely commas) but never forgoing capital lettersDunnstral wrote:Go onIn post 1689, Zachstralkita wrote:along with the many other things dunn has misrepped
Xkfyu wrote:I could see how it could look "modspewy" ....but only if you already knew that Naomi is town.In post 1683, Dunnstral wrote:Bad look for who? Also I disagree that this is indicative from the modIn post 1663, PantherPunt wrote:Speculative - mod not knowing what Naomi is referring to here is a bad look.In post 1598, Something_Smart wrote:In post 1597, Naomi-Tan wrote:@Mod; In the hypothetical situation that a messenger was roleblocked during this can would they be informed that there action failed?Can you clarify what you mean by "messenger"?
It also is pretty modspewy that Naomi is town. Sorry I'm not sorry for the angleshot.
Or we can go back to Panther. I'd be perfectly fine with that.
What of it?In post 1694, Zachstralkita wrote:aaaaaaaaand we have an opportunistic post here from xkfyu
I'll consider him.
In post 1694, Zachstralkita wrote:all i know is that you post a lot in succession and also somehow make it look like you're doing something. you also insist on not using periods(rarely commas) but never forgoing capital letters
and it works. none of them want to lynch you anymore
You've somehow managed to even damage the credibility of gerryoat (whose credibility was fine. except in the eyes of twoface) simply because we know you're scum..