Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[McMenno]

like "useless" roles = scum

like are vanilla townies scum

idgi

[Not Chara]

I never said that anyone couldn't scumread me for Pepto's behavior. I never faulted anyone for scumreading Pepto. There is no issue, and you misquote me saying, "don't scumread me for pepto." Here is my quote.

You asked McMenno to explain why Nhadia was less scummy than you without referring to Pepto or Giga.

How is that not explicitly saying "You can't hold the scumminess of my predecessor against me in your read on my slot"?

In "my piece" I already explained that I was trying to sort mcmenno, and wanted to know if I had made him more or less sure of his read.

it's almost like Magna just doesn't care what he says.

[Not Chara]

McMenno's claim is NIA.

[MagnaofIllusion]

it's almost like Magna just doesn't care what he says.

I'd make a snarky reply but I'm feeling good about you being scum so I don't expect logical content out of you ...

[MagnaofIllusion]

McMenno's claim is NIA.

See like this. Surface level weak-ass posting.

You don't see the logical disconnect between what Gamma says he thinks about the game re:fake-claims and his stance that McMenno is scum for claiming that role.

[SirCakez]

i'm sans.

sans the skeleton.

This fits town flavor
How does the "coroner at night 8" thing fit sans?

@Fire I'm thinking of re-evaluating some of my reads. Some of them were kind of just gut feelings that I'm not really getting again looking back (or I'm deciding my initial reasoning was bad). Your slot is one of the ones I'm not really sure why I townread though to be honest.

Translation - a mislynch is about to go through and I need to pretend to find reasons to push for others ....

this post isn't analysis. scum or really badly confbiased town, it sucks. likely the former.

Cakez: i saw your post requesting reasons for townreading Narna and Nahdia. Nahdia is in my ISO, Narna i haven't examined extensively, but i didn't like the push on his slot in the first place and nothing he's done has pinged me as scum. i can talk more about this on a later day, but i've been very busy.

pedit: yes, Magna has been doing that a lot. anything can be called scum if you put that kind of filter over it.

I'll ISO you later
Narna got wagoned because his predecessor's replace out was awful and he's been doing jackshit to scum hunt
Why didn't you like the push on that?

I feel like McMenno is going to flip town :c
UNVOTE:

[massive]

I wondered who was going to be first to unvote McMenno. I didn't figure it was going to be you, Cakez.

[SirCakez]

Yay I'm a winner

[McMenno]

well he's lazy (lazy coroner)

and also he's a skeleton

I don't fucking know, doesn't he do timeline research or some shit?

[Not Chara]

McMenno's claim is NIA.

See like this. Surface level weak-ass posting.

You don't see the logical disconnect between what Gamma says he thinks about the game re:fake-claims and his stance that McMenno is scum for claiming that role.

surface-level weak-ass posting from Magna right here v:

it's almost like Magna just doesn't care what he says.

I'd make a snarky reply but I'm feeling good about you being scum so I don't expect logical content out of you ...

the post you quoted is me telling Gamma that McMenno's claim is NIA. it's what we in the business of doing so call communicating with other players.
no offense to Gamma meant, but sometimes he makes logical leaps that don't always work correctly. that's a weak case for vigging Gamma and you know it.

[Not Chara]

Cakez, of course the claim fits town flavour. there's no way the scumteam weren't given fakeclaims.
the role also fits sans. i've never seen a theme without fakeclaims. hence, the NIA claim.

sans judges the player near the end of the game for how many monsters they killed. it fits with coroner, who examines deaths.

[McMenno]

I'm sorry but it's NAI not NIA... that was bothering me

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually McMenno pointed out a good flavor fit. However, Lazy Cops on EM get their results on the Night after they chose their target. Hm.

[Not Chara]

I'll ISO you later
Narna got wagoned because his predecessor's replace out was awful and he's been doing jackshit to scum hunt
Why didn't you like the push on that?

I feel like McMenno is going to flip town :c
UNVOTE:

is this related to the claim or something different?
the replace out wasn't very good, but i don't think it deserved a wagon. a push, sure, but... even after that, Narna just didn't ping me. let me ISO Narna and look for hunting.

pedit: so it is. ugh, now i'm annoyed that i typed it the wrong way so many times.

[Not Chara]

Actually McMenno pointed out a good flavor fit. However, Lazy Cops on EM get their results on the Night after they chose their target. Hm.

Epicmafia is unrelated to this site. the setups are pretty different.
the flavour fits just fine. i'd expect it to fit very closely in general. we won't know for sure until more flips, but that's my belief.

[SirCakez]

well he's lazy (lazy coroner)

and also he's a skeleton

I don't fucking know, doesn't he do timeline research or some shit?

You should have more detail then that...
P-edit: the claim and his behavior
The replace out was really bad...

[Gamma Emerald]

HRRRMMM
McMenno, can you do your thing every night and you just get all your results Night 8?

[McMenno]

okay so

STARTING night 8, EVERY night, I can investigate a dead player, and see who killed them, I get the results at the end of the night

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. I'll wait one night for that.
ALL KILLING ROLES WITH UNLIMITED USES PLEASE KILL NIGHT ONE.

[zakk]

YESSSSS

LET THE UNVOTES FLOW THROUGH YOU

MCMENNO WAGON IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD ALL FEEL BAD

MAGNA IS SCUM HERE I'M LIKE 99.9% SURE

VOTE/VIG MAGNA, IF YOU WANT VICTORY

VOTE: MAGNA

[zakk]

McMenno is my strongest town read if I haven't already said that

Please.

AtE AtE AtE AtE AtE AtE

Don't lynch McMenno

Lynch Magna

[SlySly]

I wondered who was going to be first to unvote McMenno. I didn't figure it was going to be you, Cakez.

Technically, it was Ank. He had plenty of time to hammer.

[Not Chara]

Cakez: can you talk more about why McMenno is responding in a towny manner to being at L-1?
he hasn't given reads (besides Sly being town), his response being 'he isn't dead yet', and is mostly just talking about his role. the claim itself could just as easily be a fakeclaim as it could be real, and it's not a claim (example, a vigilante or doctor claim) where it would make sense to let the player live a couple of nights more.
is it tone? or something else?

i don't find replace-outs themselves alignment indicative. especially silent ones that tell us nothing. i don't think pepto was even being wagoned on his replace out. why was it so bad?
and Narna has been scumhunting. i've checked his reads progression, he hasn't been coasting on lack of content. what has McMenno done besides tell us to lynch Narna/pepto since the beginning of the game?

[Not Chara]

zakk: i'd lynch that.
what bothers me is that Menno made it all the way to L-1 and not one player hammered despite (in my opinion) any number of reasons to. why didn't scum see it through, if McMenno is town?

[SlySly]

I didn't hammer because I read McMenno as town.