The Thing Mafia - Game over!

[Creature]

tbh I don't have reasoning on anyone currently besides gut.

[Creature]

I thought the wagon seemed good as I know there are some good players on it.

[MagnaofIllusion]

MOD - Life has kicked me in the teeth today and I'll be driving like 12 hours tomorrow so consider my normal weekend V/LA started a bit early.

Luckily day just started so I expect there will be time for me to catchup and get my thoughts on coordination in thread.

[Double Trouble]

I don't have time for mafia today, but I will tomorrow. See you then ciao ciao!

Looking forward to it.

Peregrine V is town.

Gut says PV scum, Wraith town.

~Titus

[Double Trouble]

*PV town.

[SpyreX]

12 hrs? That's nightmare talk.

Let's start to strategize though. What is the best plan? To me it makes sense to call the rooms, period. There's nothing that messes with an individual and room choice correct

[Double Trouble]

That should be Gen X town.

[Double Trouble]

12 hrs? That's nightmare talk.

Let's start to strategize though. What is the best plan? To me it makes sense to call the rooms, period. There's nothing that messes with an individual and room choice correct

Fine with this.

I will let others pick our room for wifom.

[Andrius]

Lars can move people to different rooms.
Rooms can be closed.
Locked down, aka people cannot target outside of room they're in.

[Andrius]

Tammy should have a room for her people.

[Fire Assassin]

I should reanalyze the mechanics of the rooms and stuff.
Can scum kill only happen in room they occupy? (Kind of doubt it).

[Fire Assassin]

Spoiler: OP POST

As well, scum have 4 1-shot abilities that can be used factionally, but only under specific circumstances.

A 1-shot Strongman that may only be used on someone in the same room as the scum performing the kill that night
A 1-shot Ninja that may only be used on someone in the same room as the scum performing the kill that night
A 1-shot Roleblock that may only be used on someone in the same room as the scum performing the roleblock that night
A 1-shot Commute that may only be used if the scum using it is alone in a room

Looks like scum kills are only limited if they are performed using these 1 shots.

[SpyreX]

Doubt it, but they have room specific mechanic 1 shots.

Ok, so the rooms can be fully controlled. What's the best way to utilize? Vig in with a pool of targets?

mod: if the fruit vendor gets roleblocked from targeting the speicific roleblocker, are all actions and parts of his action roleblocked?

[Double Trouble]

Tammy should have a room for her people.

Why would Tammy have a room with her neighborhood?

~Titus

[Fire Assassin]

Because if her neighborhood gets a room it can become a day chat.

[Wraith]

Quick thoughts on room coordination:

* We should absolutely set rooms specifically, since in general scum rely on same-room 1-shots and town does not.
* At least three per room if possible, since scum can only kill one and presumably the room QT can confirm who was in what room.
* Town should place Derek, Jailkeep, Bus Driver, Saboteur in same room whenever possible unless circumstances force otherwise
* Impossible to coordinate a neighorhood-only room without outing them. If I may, I'd suggest they develop a code of some kind N1 to try and circumvent this problem in future night phases.

[SpyreX]

What does it hurt to out them? We dont have investigative roles afterall.

[Andrius]

Because if her neighborhood gets a room it can become a day chat.

Exactly this.
I will be following Tammy regardless.

[SpyreX]

Positive outweighs negatives i think from first blush.

[Spiffeh]

Yeah the neighbors shouldn't have to be kept secret

Tammy can just announce what room she's going in and the neighbors can follow her

[SirCakez]

Doubt it, but they have room specific mechanic 1 shots.

Ok, so the rooms can be fully controlled. What's the best way to utilize? Vig in with a pool of targets?

mod: if the fruit vendor gets roleblocked from targeting the speicific roleblocker, are all actions and parts of his action roleblocked?

The whole action would be stopped

[Spiffeh]

Ideally we would be able to force Goatmeal and a couple vig targets into one room so they can only vig players we collectively decide are scummy enough to be vigged

I just don't see anyone willingly going into a room just to die regardless of their alignment

[SpyreX]

So i can.lock the.vendor as long.as.im alive. I request that happens

[Wraith]

What does it hurt to out them? We dont have investigative roles afterall.

I was under the (rather recent) impression the strength of the Neighborizer was getting information from other QTs the members of the neighborhood were part of; therefore, if scum slip up somehow in a QT they think is private the neighborhood members can out them. Outing members of the neighborhood therefore puts scum on guard if they spot a neighborhood member in one of their QTs.

I just don't see anyone willingly going into a room just to die regardless of their alignment

If a scum suspect doesn't go into a room with an active Vig then we lynch them immediately the following day. Problem solved. This should be easy to confirm if we get at least 3+ players in that room.

And I don't care about the excuse "well i'm town and don't want to waste my life" if you're town you do as you're fucking told by the consensus near the end of the day.

So i can.lock the.vendor as long.as.im alive. I request that happens

I'm a little off on my thoughts at the moment because I've been drinking but

Vendor should be sent into room to confirm that certain roleblockers have done their jobs properly. IE sent into the same room as Derek and ordered to vend to someone in a different room to see if Derek used his ability. Or deliberately force the JK to target him.

Is there a reason I'm missing that we should consistently keep the Vendor shut down?

[PeregrineV]

So far, the only thing I can see is if we want someone in a specific room, but they won't go there, we can at least keep them from where they want to go.

When I shut a room down, the next room on the list is filled instead. If there are still more people, the next room is filled. I would assume the order of filling is the same as the order submitted for the blocked room, but I haven't asked.

Also, I also cannot enter the room I block.

I don't quite follow this. It kind of hurts my head a little. Why would scum want to go to a specific room other than if they want to be in the same room with other player(s) ? I don't see that there would ever be any reason to prevent a specific person from entering a specific room based on the room. Allowing / denying certain roles to access certain other roles, yes, but blocking a room won't do anything to a specific player that I can see as being reliably predictable (but perhaps mildly.)

Anyway, to answer your question, imo, I see room-block more useful for town once the group is smaller and a much more long-term useful role for scum (a reason I was surprised Lloyd went so far down) to simply increase their fuck-with utility-belt.

If you for some reason you want a specific person in a specific room (or out of a specific room, but still want others to be able to be in that room), it's probably best to talk to whoever drew Lars and make a case to them and then the whole group could discuss the proposal.

Yeah, unless I find a way it can be specifically used to gather info, then I'll either randomly block a room, announce the room blocked so no one picks it, or just do nothing. We'll see how it goes.