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DiamondSentinel Jack of All Trades
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So, this whole issue is really confusing. If we assume that Kraska is lying, and they killed to cover it up, then why wouldn't the kill flavor be "shot"? That doesn't make any sense.
I can present 2 probabilities.
1. Kraska had nothing to do with it, and the spy wanted to frame them. This would mean the kill flavor needed to be explored in more detail later, but that could be done after tomorrow's kill.
2. The scum don't have a spy in the neighborhood.
Personally, I find the first more likely, but only marginally.
If you want to argue it, I can go through my whole thought process and the inconsistencies this is providing, but I doubt anyone really cares that much.“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”-
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Cerberus v666 Let's Be Reasonable
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DS, this is all complicated by kraskas pgo claim, which provides another explanation for vifams death.
Spyrex, wtf are you saying? 1 non scum kill? 2 non town kills? There's no reason why all the kills couldn't be from anti-town factions.
My point is that the kill on vifam means NOTHING with regards to kraskas alignment, or that of those in the hood.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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Cerberus v666 Let's Be Reasonable
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Yes, because protections and roleblocks aren't things, and we naturally see the result of every attempted kill every day.
....GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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PeregrineV Survivor
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It depends on how you define lurk. I avoid useless and unnecessary posting. Mostly.In post 2126, DiamondSentinel wrote:Oh, to any lurkers, if you have less content than PV, I humbly suggest that you slap yourself, then get on your keyboard, and actually make content. Because that is unacceptable. (sorry PV, but you know it's true. You do have a tendency to compulsively lurk)I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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DiamondSentinel Jack of All Trades
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While also a very valid point, it's an unlikely one. There's the major issue of the inconsistencies brought up by doubting Vraska's claim as well.In post 2228, Cerberus v666 wrote:DS, this is all complicated by kraskas pgo claim, which provides another explanation for vifams death.
Spyrex, wtf are you saying? 1 non scum kill? 2 non town kills? There's no reason why all the kills couldn't be from anti-town factions.
My point is that the kill on vifam means NOTHING with regards to kraskas alignment, or that of those in the hood.
PEdit: PV, I was in MGSV with you. You lurked.“Why was I chosen?'
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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I guess I'll leave the hunt for rock hard skumz tm then. Keep on keepin on.
I'll be here when that fails and you remember that d2 in this wildnerness requires a gamble-
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Aristophanes He/HimMr. Blue SkyHe/Him
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Lol totally okay with a Kraska lynch.In post 2220, SpyreX wrote:pgoHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Cerberus v666 Let's Be Reasonable
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You seem to feel that I'm demanding some super high standard of proof. I'm not.
I'm just pointing out why all these people are wrong. Their fundamental assumptions about the situation don't make sense.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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The Ascended Masters Goon
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I'm not sure what point you're making here.In post 2201, Mirhawk wrote:You realize this brings up the sum total of your content today to asking someone to join your townblock and a naked vote right?
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The Ascended Masters Goon
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This isn't true. I'll explain why if it isn't if you'll have the patience to wait for kraska to answer my questions.In post 2204, Mirhawk wrote:the only way for it not to be is if Vifram was roleblocked before being killed.-
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The Ascended Masters Goon
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Well, we know that the kill flavor wasn't guns. It's not an incredibly large stretch to assume guns on the terrorist faction.In post 2206, Cerberus v666 wrote:He was not killed by someone with a gun.
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To add to this, there seems to be an argument that kraska is claiming PGO to cover for neighborhood buddies (at least this is the only argument that makes any shred of sense to me), but this obviously doesn't hold once kraska flips anything but PGO. The claim doesn't explain Vifam death in a satisfactory way that doesn't incriminate kraska and it doesn't extend her lifespan. Not claiming it immediately is not really questionable considering join date.In post 2221, Cerberus v666 wrote:The ONLY thing about kraska that's questiobable is not claiming pgo D1, BUT....why thr hell would they claim it now if they're scum? How does that help them?-
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Cerberus v666 Let's Be Reasonable
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True.In post 2239, The Ascended Masters wrote:
Well, we know that the kill flavor wasn't guns. It's not an incredibly large stretch to assume guns on the terrorist faction.In post 2206, Cerberus v666 wrote:He was not killed by someone with a gun.
Therefore his death doesn't mean shit.
Let me rephrase.
Unless the same faction that killed him bas access to two different kill flavors, one of which involves a gun, his death doesn't mean shit.
Better?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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In post 2222, pisskop wrote:Word, nos?
are you telling me to sheep you on shrub or something else?In post 2223, pisskop wrote:Vote the shrub with me-
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Cerberus v666 Let's Be Reasonable
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*nods*In post 2240, The Ascended Masters wrote:
To add to this, there seems to be an argument that kraska is claiming PGO to cover for neighborhood buddies (at least this is the only argument that makes any shred of sense to me), but this obviously doesn't hold once kraska flips anything but PGO. The claim doesn't explain Vifam death in a satisfactory way that doesn't incriminate kraska and it doesn't extend her lifespan. Not claiming it immediately is not really questionable considering join date.In post 2221, Cerberus v666 wrote:The ONLY thing about kraska that's questiobable is not claiming pgo D1, BUT....why thr hell would they claim it now if they're scum? How does that help them?
By the way, this is the reason why those of you trying to get nacho lynched early are being dumb.
Even if he's scum, he's scum who makes fucking sense and will act in a pro town fashion and figure shit out. Especially so if this is multiball(as it likely is)
And if he's not scum, then you just fucked up majorly.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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Pgo was a panic fuck up claim to explain the kill as town instead of going i have nothing to do with this. It also cant be verified.
Unless someone can fling people at someone id be fine with that my role isn't super neat-
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pisskop Survivor
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vote skrub wme
i meandid you see that exchange we had?
@cakes
who else tam is a vanity wagon we have easier fish rnbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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Cerberus v666 Let's Be Reasonable
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A panic fuck up claim made hours later, to explain a kill they had planned with their team during the previous night phase?In post 2244, SpyreX wrote:Pgo was a panic fuck up claim to explain the kill as town instead of going i have nothing to do with this. It also cant be verified.
Unless someone can fling people at someone id be fine with that my role isn't super neatGTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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The Ascended Masters Goon
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The stronger ties are to the scum in the neighborhood that basically has to exist if the kraska theory is correct.In post 2244, SpyreX wrote:Pgo was a panic fuck up claim to explain the kill as town instead of going i have nothing to do with this. It also cant be verified.
Unless someone can fling people at someone id be fine with that my role isn't super neat
PGO can be tested by throwing bodies at it; yes, it gets messy if certain people as scum but it's also pretty easily workable.-
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Aristophanes He/HimMr. Blue SkyHe/Him
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"Just throw some bodies at the PGO," says Ascended Masters. "Sure, it won't be scum bodies, but it will confirm that they are dead! Well assume they were victims of the PGO if it's convenient, and say we can't be sure they weren't killed directly if that works better."
Would lynch AM, Kraska, or Skold atm. All three should be scum.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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