[Mini 1835] - Everything Is A Lie Mafia 4 (Abandoned)

[shos]

lol I call bullshit.
and currently you are the only one who claims to have a night action that does absolutely nothing. You planting bombs does not make people PGOs I assume, it makes them flammable for an arsonist or something alike.

You did not target R&L tonight. Perhaps you think it is also just a coincidence that I guessed correctly that flames did nothing N1?

[Davsto]

and currently you are the only one who claims to have a night action that does absolutely nothing. You planting bombs does not make people PGOs I assume, it makes them flammable for an arsonist or something alike.

Fuck me, are you even reading?
Your idiocy's hurting, I feel like I'm bleeding
I've already explained what I believe them to do
Pay some attention, you'll be enlightened, too!

[Davsto]

You did not target R&L tonight. Perhaps you think it is also just a coincidence that I guessed correctly that flames did nothing N1?

I mean, I know that your role is wrong
So don't try to convince me with that silly song

[Davsto]

I was told I was JOAT, with Doc Cop and Block,
And a fourth ability to target one dead as a rock
(The role, so I'm told, would reveal any lies
In their role PM, but to use it wouldn't be wise)

Now it seems the Doc Cop and Block instead - stay calm
Places a bomb right into the palm
And I'm guessing using my forensic investigation
Would cause an unpleasant detonation

[shos]

Perhaps you think it is also just a coincidence that I guessed correctly that flames did nothing N1?

[Davsto]

You're questioning me like I think your role is right
Though I know it's not; what a pathetic sight
Of course it's a coincidence - would that not explain
The events better than your theories which are insane?

[shos]

so insane...in a probable multiball, I called 2 people scum.. woooow

I can really not understand your resistance to lynching flames though

[Davsto]

My resistance is less to the lynching of flame
More that, when it comes to scumminess, you're to blame

Why the hell are you being so obstinate?
Your role may be lies - yet your stubbornness is infinite

My action is obviously fact to all but you
Your logical blind spots and holes are just... phew

[Davsto]

Also, the strongest case for flames is the result from your action
And either you are your role are lying, so with me that won't gain traction
Because I know what I did, so to your results I have no attraction

[123456789]

Who HASNT claimed a confirmable night action?

Davsto confirmed his night action by the nature; Rylai & the Counsel confirmed my role, Vedith is obv!jester rn, Flames is prob. town in the event of jester!Vedith, SirCakez is pretty much confirmed reviver.

That leaves shos, BNL, Rylai & Lina, Mal, Lilith, and xyzzy.

BNL was 1-Shot lynchproof and xyzzy was "confirmed IC".
Malp was "confirmed by desparado shot".

Let's lynch within that pool of 6 people.

VOTE: Lilith

I

think

the point you are trying to pursue here is that someone who has yet to claim a night action must be scum because nightkill???

1. There's no restriction in the rules on how many actions you can take per night (factional vs. individual).
2. Most of the scum in wgeurts' games don't even have a NK and have other actions instead.

Your point is invalid.

No, we shouldn't be lynching people who are confirmed PRs. We should be using the assets of the PRs to identify scum.

[123456789]

your vote for lilith2013 feels like you're just picking someone at random from that list, Ircher.

Within the pool of 6, pretty much.

[Ircher]

Who HASNT claimed a confirmable night action?

Davsto confirmed his night action by the nature; Rylai & the Counsel confirmed my role, Vedith is obv!jester rn, Flames is prob. town in the event of jester!Vedith, SirCakez is pretty much confirmed reviver.

That leaves shos, BNL, Rylai & Lina, Mal, Lilith, and xyzzy.

BNL was 1-Shot lynchproof and xyzzy was "confirmed IC".
Malp was "confirmed by desparado shot".

Let's lynch within that pool of 6 people.

VOTE: Lilith

I

think

the point you are trying to pursue here is that someone who has yet to claim a night action must be scum because nightkill???

1. There's no restriction in the rules on how many actions you can take per night (factional vs. individual).
2. Most of the scum in wgeurts' games don't even have a NK and have other actions instead.

Your point is invalid.

No, we shouldn't be lynching people who are confirmed PRs. We should be using the assets of the PRs to identify scum.

your vote for lilith2013 feels like you're just picking someone at random from that list, Ircher.

Within the pool of 6, pretty much.

...Didnt even realize....

[Ircher]

MM flipped town

Are we seriously speculating MM-town?
For crying out loud, don't be such a clown
He can edit votecounts as seen in 1467,
His PM

must

have been a lie, though he's now in heaven

1) He died despite not being lynched
2) If he edits VCs, then he would control the anonymous messages too
3) Death miller is SUPER LAME.

For one, we've figured, a "desperado",
Which always kills him, making his partner look town, yo
And two... so what? What does that mean?
As for three, yeah, this is EIAL, as you've seen.

2 is important because the anonymoous messages are still in the VC. Plus, VC-editing is a huge inconvenience to both players and the moderator & VCs change too much for it to be practical.

Why does it have to be a lie?

[Ircher]

Here's the plan.
We lynch Dav, I

shoot Flames

tonight (can't be roleblocked with Dav dead) then we lynch Ircher tomorow.

Easy game, easy money.

Jester-slip.......

[Ircher]

lol I call bullshit.
and currently you are the only one who claims to have a night action that does absolutely nothing. You planting bombs does not make people PGOs I assume, it makes them flammable for an arsonist or something alike.

You did not target R&L tonight. Perhaps you think it is also just a coincidence that I guessed correctly that flames did nothing N1?

Remind -- Whats your night action?

[Ircher]

VOTE: Shos

Sheeping Davsto's case for now under the principle of Occam's Razor.

[shos]

tracker.
remind me that case, ircher? " you refuse to consider that, so I VOTE: shos", wasn't it? basically omgus, lol, despite my vote being on flames. how is occam's razor in?

[Ircher]

So you think that:

On day 2, I told malpascp that I targeted him and he mentioned receiving a bomb (when in reality of course I didn't target him because your results suggest I have no actions so the bomb didn't come from me)
On day 3, when R&L mentioned receiving a bomb, I decided to claim that I had given them that bomb by accident when in fact I didn't target them at all that night.

May I ask

Why would I do this?

and if I'm at it already, there's also the coincidence that davsto said he targetted R&L only AFTER they said the got the bomb. Hence your action is not confirmed, meaning you ARE lying.

Yoyo hold up let's go back to this a second

This logic is faulty in so many ways even without the knowledge regarding me and malpascp

For a start, that still occurred before you claimed any sort of tracker result on me. Therefore, he's asserting I lied and claimed an action with inherently negative connotations for

literally no positive benefit

.

This is problematic.

He has tracker results which contradict with two different people's roles, and at least one of those people had their action that night confirmed by a third party. This is ridiculous.

If shos is town with a non-lying role - as he is so certainly claiming, it means that me, Rylai and Lina

and

Flames are

all scum

. And not just all scum - this theory requires me and R&L to be on the same scumteam, and most likely Flames too considering he's claiming that Flames "changed" his answer to defend me.

Can we kill this? Thanks.

Davsto spells it out in these posts; what night actions & results did you claim?

[Vedith]

Jester-slip.......

You caught me, I'm a jester vigilante!

[malpascp]

Jester-slip.......

Huh?

You did not target R&L tonight.

Huh?
>Dav calls having targeted me
>I call getting a bomb planted on me

>R&L call getting a bomb planted on them
>Dav calls targeting them

So you're calling Dav and R&L are scumbuddies?

[shos]

Does it matter? Am I voting dav? nope. I will have one more night of information before I try to get him lynched. So this discussion is useless. Flames is today.

[Ircher]

Fine. Flanes today then we sort you and Davsto tomorrow.

Deal?

VOTE: Flames

[SirCakez]

Why haven't we strung up Ircher or flames yet?

Because everyone is probably scum but me and you and they just want town cred...

probably, at this rate

Ircher then...

PICK SOMEONE YOU GUYS FFS

[lilith2013]

Ircher or shos.

[Ircher]

Shos or Flames