Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[Prism]

Second part of this is what I want a response to.

I expected town you to answer something like "I wanted to do it" or whatever.

Anything I do in a mafia game is because I think it's useful-I don't do anything, or say a single word, that I think is useless. I mean this in the most literal sense. Call it wanting to if it makes it easier.

I'll be honest here: the use of RQS from you pings my scumdar.

Why?

[drealmerz7]

scum has daychat so there's no point to coach in-thread.

insurance if a player isn't sure their bud is reading the PT - and then you just WIFOM the coaching point as you just did while at the same time:

it also becomes a convenient spot to plant a town-cred seed for later (because you didn't articulate what you saw wrong with it AND your comment came after my vote is what allows me to think is - you could be anticipating the problem with BTD6 and trying to get ahead of it)

I'm not saying that I think it is all this ^, I'm just pointing out that such a consideration is in my awareness.

My main focus is on BTD6, and if Nosferatu also feels something wrong with BTD6 similarly to how I do, why is she focusing on me instead of our common discomfort in BTD6? It's just more things to note as I keep my focus on BTD6.

This is the only real read I have so far, so I share it.

Nos, can you work on articulating what you feel is off/wrong about BTD6 (or whatever wording YOU want to use, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth) ?

[Gamma Emerald]

Second part of this is what I want a response to.

I expected town you to answer something like "I wanted to do it" or whatever.

Anything I do in a mafia game is because I think it's useful-I don't do anything, or say a single word, that I think is useless. I mean this in the most literal sense. Call it wanting to if it makes it easier.

I'll be honest here: the use of RQS from you pings my scumdar.

Why?

I can't tell you.

[BATORU]

batoru looks overreachy in his push on nos. but it doesnt look self aware

thanks, aihdan

because I'm having trouble communicating

-tama

[BATORU]

*drealer* looks overreachy in his push on nos. but it doesnt look self aware

thanks, aihdan

ebwop

oh

[BATORU]

No, but I start to scumread people when I think responses look like they put time/effort into trying to look town.

And when they dumbtell about why I think something.

did me calling your dilemma over your read on this slot a "quandary of the century" seem like me putting time and effort to look town?

It looked like you paying attention to your response. No one else is questioning what I mean here and my trying to explain it cogently would probably be a wasted effort.

You're still on a liability-vote. Or do you think drealmer is scum?

yeah but you literally just said you scum read people for spending effort to look town. shitposting ironically about your indecisiveness over your read on me isn't very convincing in any universe, unless you're willing to explain how.

Where did I "shitpost ironically"?

That one response isn't the ONLY thing that makes me feel odd about you and I think I said that.

do you want me to be sincere or not? On one hand I'm supposed to help you town read me(??) and then on the other if I'm trying to look town that's scummy. If you don't see the clear dichotomy in your arguments idk what to even say.

When in the world did I say you need to help me townread you intentionally?

Also dunn was not a liability-vote but dreamer is.

No but dunn was an RVS vote, wasn't he?

If it makes you happier, I can say it was gut, because that's what I would have if given the choice originally.

-Tama

[Dunnstral]

not true at all, my last scum game with you was me being a lurksack. This is actually closer to cowboy bebop mafia cause in that one I shitposted for awhile too, but I didn't even read that game, and I'm clearly reading in this one.

I wasn't in cowboy bebop mafia

I saw you in street fighter

[Dunnstral]

Lynch me then Lynch frozen thanks

OK I don't really see scum doing this sort of 1 for 1
can be town for now

so


bad

looks to me like scum that got overeager and said that when it honestly made no sense to try to get towncred

[Nosferatu]

not true at all, my last scum game with you was me being a lurksack. This is actually closer to cowboy bebop mafia cause in that one I shitposted for awhile too, but I didn't even read that game, and I'm clearly reading in this one.

I wasn't in cowboy bebop mafia

I saw you in street fighter

I wasn't scum in street fighter :I

[Nosferatu]

Nos, can you work on articulating what you feel is off/wrong about BTD6 (or whatever wording YOU want to use, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth) ?

I don't have a problem with BTD6, only that one post. I'm not focusing on you or him; I'm not focusing on anything and I prefer to keep it that way.

If I were to articulate it, it would probably be that its such a weird and specific assumption to make.

No, but I start to scumread people when I think responses look like they put time/effort into trying to look town.

And when they dumbtell about why I think something.

did me calling your dilemma over your read on this slot a "quandary of the century" seem like me putting time and effort to look town?

It looked like you paying attention to your response. No one else is questioning what I mean here and my trying to explain it cogently would probably be a wasted effort.

You're still on a liability-vote. Or do you think drealmer is scum?

yeah but you literally just said you scum read people for spending effort to look town. shitposting ironically about your indecisiveness over your read on me isn't very convincing in any universe, unless you're willing to explain how.

Where did I "shitpost ironically"?

That one response isn't the ONLY thing that makes me feel odd about you and I think I said that.

do you want me to be sincere or not? On one hand I'm supposed to help you town read me(??) and then on the other if I'm trying to look town that's scummy. If you don't see the clear dichotomy in your arguments idk what to even say.

When in the world did I say you need to help me townread you intentionally?

Also dunn was not a liability-vote but dreamer is.

No but dunn was an RVS vote, wasn't he?

If it makes you happier, I can say it was gut, because that's what I would have if given the choice originally.

-Tama

I was talking about me when I said "shitposting ironically".
when you said I wasn't being insincere with my alignment, what did you want me to do? This is my issue, idk what you want from me and I'm not sure you do either :/
yes dunn was an rvs vote
get a gut transplant

[Dunnstral]

I wasn't scum in street fighter :I

I thought you were saying it was closer to cowboy bebop, where you were town, and so you are town. But I think you're saying closer to your scum game in cowboy bebop (which I didn't read)

[Nosferatu]

scum has daychat so there's no point to coach in-thread.

insurance if a player isn't sure their bud is reading the PT - and then you just WIFOM the coaching point as you just did while at the same time:

it also becomes a convenient spot to plant a town-cred seed for later (because you didn't articulate what you saw wrong with it AND your comment came after my vote is what allows me to think is - you could be anticipating the problem with BTD6 and trying to get ahead of it)

I'm not saying that I think it is all this ^, I'm just pointing out that such a consideration is in my awareness.

that's great that you consider that, but its a bit reachy.

pedit: ye pretty much, the tl;dr of that game was: I lurked, said I was going to lurk beforehand, my scumbuddy decided to bus me, pointed out I was lurking, whole game piled on me, started to fight back, but it was kinda late, was about to get lynched, and then game is cancelled for the clutch.

[pisskop]

You were not getting roped that day. we could have roped nacho

[Dunnstral]

Uh

You were pretty lurky in street fighter too?

I remember I incorrectly tunneled onto you

It looks like you're trying to say you're not scum because you're not lurking

[Nosferatu]

Uh

You were pretty lurky in street fighter too?

I remember I incorrectly tunneled onto you

It looks like you're trying to say you're not scum because you're not lurking

ok lets re-look this line of thought here:

either I'm scum cause I look like I did in SF
or I'm town cause I look like I did in SF
you need to fucking pick one.

SF was a town game of mine. Make up your fucking mind about how I look in this game in comparison to others.

You started out saying I'm suspicious because of how my play is similar to SF. I name a scum game of mine that is actually kinda similar and I said it was cause I shit posted. idk how shitpost == lurk to you but that's irrelevant. Now you're somehow bringing the lurk factor back into SF, and now saying I'm trying to argue I'm not scum because I'm not lurking, which isn't even remotely possible if you have a semblance of reading comprehension.

So be decisive with where you're pulling out random shit from.

[Nosferatu]

You were not getting roped that day. we could have roped nacho

:T

[Gamma Emerald]

Lynch me then Lynch frozen thanks

OK I don't really see scum doing this sort of 1 for 1
can be town for now

so


bad

looks to me like scum that got overeager and said that when it honestly made no sense to try to get towncred

Town does this method. I've seen it twice.

[Dunnstral]

ok lets re-look this line of thought here:

either I'm scum cause I look like I did in SF
or I'm town cause I look like I did in SF

Uh, neither? You don't look like sf

[Dunnstral]

I was talking about space mafia where you were scum

You're the one who said you didn't look like that game

[Nosferatu]

you're right, I got confused when you said:

I wasn't in cowboy bebop mafia

I saw you in street fighter

but anyway lets bring it back to your original post then, how is my play here similar to my play in space mafia.

[Dunnstral]

You're not really contributing even though you post and you latched onto a "liability vote" without really saying you think they're scum

[Nosferatu]

You're not really contributing even though you post and you latched onto a "liability vote" without really saying you think they're scum

I haven't latched onto anything. I made a vote and said why. I don't know if dreamer is scum, but at the time I would've preferred them gone. I don't see how you find that scummy.

I'd say I'm contributing, but I can see why you would say I'm not; I haven't discussed my own reads or given any to make this game into the hotpot of ideas and intellectualism that it was meant to be, but I'm contributing to existing discussion and am forming my reads from that so that they're well founded when I do decide to give them. Quite frankly seeing as you've played a game with me before I don't see why you think I would hit the ground running with reads, since I've only actually done that like, once.

[Nosferatu]

>hotpot of intellectualism and idea
that felt like writing a research paper on pre-WWI germany.

[Nahdia]

Please note the addition of two new rules.

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Do not make reference to meta formed in other games that are still ongoing. Being discreet doesn't make it acceptable.

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Do not make reference in game to any sort of moderator communication with the exception of communication relating to game mechanics (role PM's, investigative results, mod questions, etc.).

To be perfectly clear, this post falls under that second new rule. If you would like to discuss this, message me privately.

[Dunnstral]

Voting someone you "want gone" for roleplaying instead of who you think is mafia is what I have a problem with

You don't have reads, true, but you're also not prodding or looking to figure things out

Wouldn't really call this a hotpot as all the intellectualism is.... nvm