The Thing Mafia - Game over!

[Wraith]

VCA Color-Coded Personal Reads

1.1

Espeonage

(5) -

SpyreX

,

Spiffeh

,

Double Trouble

,

Generation X

,

McMenno

drealmerz7

(2) -

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Wraith

Double Trouble

(1) - Untrod Tripod

Goatmeal

(1) -

Andrius

Skybird

(1) - Fire Assassin

Errantparabola

(1) - Fire Assassin

Not voting (11) -

Goatmeal

,

Creature

,

Flames682

, PeregrineV,

hi Im yakko

,

Errantparabola

,

drealmerz7

,

Tammy

,

Espeonage

,

Skybird

, Yume

1.2

Espeonage

(5) -

SpyreX

,

Spiffeh

,

McMenno

,

Creature

, Untrod Tripod

drealmerz7

(4) -

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Wraith

,

Espeonage

,

Goatmeal

Skybird

(2) - Fire Assassin, PeregrineV

Errantparabola

(2) - Fire Assassin,

Generation X

Untrod Tripod (1) -

Double Trouble

Goatmeal

(1) -

Andrius

Not voting (7) -

Flames682

,

hi Im yakko

,

Errantparabola

,

drealmerz7

,

Tammy, Skybird

, Yume

1.3

Espeonage

(4) -

SpyreX

,

McMenno

,

Creature

, Untrod Tripod

drealmerz7

(3) -

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Wraith

,

Espeonage

Errantparabola

(3) - Fire Assassin,

Goatmeal

,

Generation X

Goatmeal

(2) -

Andrius, Spiffeh

Untrod Tripod (2) - Fire Assassin,

Double Trouble

Generation X

(1) -

Errantparabola

Skybird

(1) - PeregrineV

Not voting (6) -

MariaR

,

Toogeloo

,

drealmerz7

,

Tammy, Skybird

, Yume

1.4

Generation X

(4) -

Errantparabola

,

drealmerz7

,

Wraith, Spiffeh

Untrod Tripod (3) - Fire Assassin, Fire Assassin,

Double Trouble

McMenno

(2) -

McMenno

,

Creature

Goatmeal

(2) -

Andrius, MariaR

drealmerz7

(2) -

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Espeonage

Espeonage

(1) - Untrod Tripod

Errantparabola

(1) -

Goatmeal

Skybird

(1) - PeregrineV

Double Trouble

(1) -

SpyreX

Not voting (5) -

Toogeloo

,

Tammy, Skybird

, Yume,

Generation X

1.5

Goatmeal

(6) -

Andrius, MariaR

,

Generation X

,

Spiffeh

,

Double Trouble

,

Wraith

Double Trouble

(3) -

SpyreX

, Untrod Tripod,

MagnaOfIllusion

Untrod Tripod (2) - Fire Assassin, Fire Assassin

Generation X

(2) -

Errantparabola

,

drealmerz7

drealmerz7

(1) -

Espeonage

Skybird

(1) - PeregrineV

Espeonage

(1) -

Toogeloo

Not voting (6) -

Tammy, Skybird

, Yume,

Creature

,

Goatmeal

,

McMenno

1.6

Goatmeal

(6) -

Andrius, MariaR

,

Double Trouble

,

Wraith

, Fire Assassin, Fire Assassin

Double Trouble

(4) -

SpyreX

, Untrod Tripod,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Toogeloo

Skybird

(2) - PeregrineV,

Goatmeal

Generation X

(2) -

Errantparabola

,

drealmerz7

drealmerz7

(1) -

Espeonage

Toogeloo

(1) -

Generation X

Not voting (6) -

Tammy, Skybird

, Yume,

Creature

,

McMenno

,

Spiffeh

1.7

Goatmeal

(7) -

Andrius, MariaR

,

Double Trouble

,

Wraith

, Fire Assassin, Fire Assassin,

Spiffeh

Double Trouble

(4) -

SpyreX

, Untrod Tripod,

Toogeloo

,

MagnaOfIllusion

Skybird

(3) - PeregrineV,

Goatmeal

,

McMenno

Generation X

(1) -

Errantparabola

drealmerz7

(1) -

Espeonage

Toogeloo

(1) -

Generation X

Fire Assassin (1) -

drealmerz7

Not voting (4) -

Tammy, Skybird

, 1-shot Vanilla Townie,

Creature

1.8

Goatmeal

(6) -

MariaR

,

Double Trouble

,

Wraith

, Fire Assassin, Fire Assassin,

Spiffeh

Toogeloo

(4) -

Generation X

,

SpyreX

,

Andrius

, Untrod Tripod

Skybird

(3) - PeregrineV,

Goatmeal

,

McMenno

Double Trouble

(2) -

Toogeloo

,

MagnaOfIllusion

Generation X

(1) -

Errantparabola

drealmerz7

(1) -

Espeonage

Fire Assassin (1) -

drealmerz7

Not voting (4) -

Tammy, Skybird

, 1-shot Vanilla Townie,

Creature

1.9

Toogeloo

(8) -

Generation X

,

SpyreX

,

Andrius

, Untrod Tripod,

Wraith, Skybird, Spiffeh, Errantparabola

Goatmeal

(4) -

Double Trouble

, Fire Assassin, Fire Assassin,

MariaR

Skybird

(3) - PeregrineV,

Goatmeal

,

McMenno

Double Trouble

(2) -

Toogeloo

,

MagnaOfIllusion

drealmerz7

(1) -

Espeonage

Fire Assassin (1) -

drealmerz7

Not voting (3) -

Tammy

, 1-shot Vanilla Townie,

Creature

1.10

Toogeloo

(11) -

Transcend

,

SpyreX

,

Andrius

, Untrod Tripod,

Wraith, Skybird, Spiffeh, Errantparabola, MariaR

, Fire Assassin, Fire Assassin

Skybird

(3) - PeregrineV,

Goatmeal

,

McMenno

Double Trouble

(2) -

Toogeloo

,

MagnaOfIllusion

drealmerz7

(1) -

Espeonage

Goatmeal

(1) -

Double Trouble

Fire Assassin (1) -

drealmerz7

Not voting (3) -

Tammy

, 1-shot Vanilla Townie,

Creature

2.1

Goatmeal

(6) -

Double Trouble

,

Wraith, Errantparabola

,

McMenno

,

Transcend

, 1 Shot Vanilla Town
Tammy (3) - Fire Assassin, Fire Assassin,

MariaR

Not voting (11) -

Tammy

,

Creature

,

SpyreX

,

Andrius

, Untrod Tripod,

Skybird, Spiffeh

, PeregrineV,

Goatmeal

,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

drealmerz7

2.2

Goatmeal

(10) -

Titus

,

Wraith

,

Errantparabola

,

McMenno

,

Generation X

, 1 Shot Vanilla Town, Untrod Tripod,

drealmerz7

,

Spiffeh

,

Goatmeal

Tammy

(1) -

MariaR

Creature

(1) - Fire Assassin

drealmerz7

(1) - Fire Assassin

Not voting (7) -

Tammy

,

Creature

,

SpyreX

,

Andrius, Skybird

, PeregrineV,

MagnaOfIllusion

3.1

Generation X

(4) -

Andrius, Wraith

,

Generation X

,

drealmerz7

drealmerz7

(3) - Fire Assassin,

MariaR

, PeregrineV

SpyreX

(2) - Fire Assassin,

Spiffeh

Not voting (8) -

Tammy

,

SpyreX

,

Skybird, MagnaOfIllusion

,

Titus

,

Errantparabola

, 1 Shot Vanilla Town, Untrod Tripod

3.2

Generation X

(5) -

Andrius, Wraith

,

drealmerz7

,

MagnaOfIllusion

, Untrod Tripod
drealmerz7 (5) - Fire Assassin,

MariaR

, PeregrineV,

Titus

,

Generation X

SpyreX

(1) -

Spiffeh

Fire Assassin (1) - Fire Assassin

Not voting (5) -

Tammy

,

SpyreX

,

Skybird, Errantparabola

, 1 Shot Vanilla Town

3.3

Generation X

(5) -

Andrius, Wraith

,

drealmerz7

, Untrod Tripod, Fire Assassin

drealmerz7

(4) -

MariaR

, PeregrineV,

Generation X

,

MagnaOfIllusion

SpyreX

(2) -

Titus

,

Skybird

Fire Assassin (1) - Fire Assassin

Not voting (5) -

Tammy

,

SpyreX

,

Errantparabola

, 1 Shot Vanilla Town,

Spiffeh

3.4

Generation X

(4) -

Andrius, Wraith

,

drealmerz7

, Fire Assassin

drealmerz7

(4) -

MariaR

, PeregrineV,

MagnaOfIllusion

, Untrod Tripod

SpyreX

(2) -

Titus

,

Skybird

PeregrineV (1) -

Generation X

Fire Assassin (1) - Fire Assassin

Not voting (5) -

Tammy

,

SpyreX

,

Errantparabola

, 1 Shot Vanilla Town,

Spiffeh

3.5

drealmerz7 (7) -

MariaR

, PeregrineV,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

SpyreX

,

Skybird

,

Generation X

, Untrod Tripod

Generation X

(5) -

Andrius, Wraith

,

drealmerz7

, Fire Assassin,

Spiffeh

SpyreX

(1) -

Titus

Fire Assassin (1) - Fire Assassin

Not voting (3) -

Tammy, Errantparabola

, 1 Shot Vanilla Town

3.6

Generation X

(9) -

Andrius, Wraith

,

drealmerz7

, Fire Assassin,

Spiffeh

,

Errantparabola, MariaR

, Untrod Tripod,

SpyreX

drealmerz7

(4) - PeregrineV,

MagnaOfIllusion, Skybird

SpyreX

(2) -

Titus

,

Generation X

Fire Assassin (1) - Fire Assassin

Not voting (2) -

Tammy

, 1 Shot Vanilla Town

Notes

1. Tammy refuses to vote and it's pretty annoying at this point.
2. SpyreX led two D1 wagons against flipped town (Espeonage and Double Trouble/Titus) before being second on the Toogeloo wagon
3. Spyrex (as I said in a previous post) railed against drealmerz through a lot of D3 but withheld his vote for a suspiciously long time, eventually ending up fourth when the drealmerz wagon reached its peak. He later hammered GenX (flipped town) before Fire Assassin had a chance to move his vote back to PeregrineV or drealmerz. SpyreX also expressed his belief before the hammer that GenX would flip town.
4. drealmerz was on the GenX wagon third (not counting the strange GenX self-vote) after two consensus townreads.
5. drealmerz was late to the Goatmeal wagon and SpyreX did not vote for Goatmeal at all.
6. drealmerz did not vote for Toogeloo at all.
7. UT follows SpyreX around a lot.

I think this is all pretty damning for both drealmerz and SpyreX. Wondering what other players think.

[Tammy]

The people I have left over that I need to finish reading and trying to figure out are spryex, ut, fa, 1svt, andrius. I doubt that three scum are in there though, so I'm hoping I'm wrong on one of my lesser town reads. Though Titus' death makes me want to rethink some of my reads.

pedit: yeah I usually drive people who do vca nuts.

[Wraith]

@Tammy: Spiffeh did Commute that night.

If Magna sabotaged them they didn't take their shot.

I commuted Night 1

Meaning they could have tried to kill me and it just didn't show up in MoI's result because I was technically "untargetable" that night.

Added an item to my To-Do list. Going to explain why I townread certain players.

[Tammy]

@Tammy: Spiffeh did Commute that night.

If Magna sabotaged them they didn't take their shot.

I commuted Night 1

Meaning they could have tried to kill me and it just didn't show up in MoI's result because I was technically "untargetable" that night.

Added an item to my To-Do list. Going to explain why I townread certain players.

\

Oh I didn't realize he told the thread. He told the neighborhood and I was leaving it somewhat ambiguous.

[MariaR]

Wow my votes look shit

[Tammy]

The scum teams kill decisions are giving me an aneurism. Why would anyone want to kill Titus?

Probably to throw shade on others.
My guess is they wanted to try and push for a PV lynch.
4384

Also can you talk about why you think magna is scum? Or give any reads at all? I skimmed your iso in a micro you played in and you are capable of responding to things and giving reads, but the only thing you've done here is say magna is scum and bitch about following the rules.

[drealmerz7]

... talks about how much he gets "scum pings" from me, but never truly tries to push a wagon on me because he thinks I'm untouchable...

You either aren't listening or are scum. I get scum pings from everyone. I said as much. I said it's just a matter of which player I want to push (which scum-pings make me think it is a worthwhile push that will have traction), yours just haven't been there, and you're not at the top of my scumlist, ya know? with the titus flip as Human, you do look rather tasty

VOTE: wraith

I don't have time or energy atm to make the case (work soon and still have to do life-things), I will later since you're so eager.

Come back, FA.

[SpyreX]

I blocked ut, sky, spiff
MoI: realistically pv, but my heart of hearts says spiff

Someone enterprising tell me if theres a scumteam where sky bird would have to perform the kill. Cause that, after the talk, hurts me. However, the fact she did that and not the obvious after last nights talk as scum (vend to the kill target) gives me a lot of pause for skyscum.

[Wraith]

Why I Townread Certain Players

MariaR

I've already explained why I'm convinced MariaR is town, and I'll repost it for posterity.

1. Toogeloo pushed an argument that the scumteam (led by me) were trying to lynch Goatmeal D1 in order to pass a Vig shot from town!Goatmeal to scum!MariaR. Toogeloo and Goatmeal both flipped scum.

I suddenly want to add Maria to my Scumpool as well. Scum team likely trying to gain control of the Vig.

Note the following:

Spiffeh
-- I still dont like the early play. I really don't like the whole pass the vig to Maria (which would be a high kill choice if Maria is scum). I don't like the UT 'read'. I also dont like how there's a consistent townread here I dont get it.

Yeah passing the vig to Maria definitely is scum motivated. Especially since SCUM HAD TO BE LYNCHED DAY 1 FOR IT TO HAPPEN. Why is this a fucking issue if I was tunneling scum the whole time to do it?

2. MariaR strongly objected to not rooming herself, Errant, and Creature together N2. Turns out she was 100% correct because Creature turned up dead the morning of D3. I don't see any advantage in scum!MariaR arguing for Creature to room with her. If she was scum and knew the scumteam was targeting Creature for death, why would she lobby to room with Creature and Errant at the same time? If she did, scum would have to either spend a teammate shooting into a Watched room, or put massive suspicion on MariaR herself by having her shoot a roommate.

No. I'm going in a room with erra and Creature and that's it. DT can join too but only 4

Did I miss something I thought we already talked about me erra and creature ALWAYS being in a room together.

Maria can you explain why you think that would be beneficial?

If were all town great we never die and we got a town block
if one of us is scum and has to kill this one of the other 2 has to be scum making a cc
I see no down side to this

Creature lets me you and erra go in the infirmary and say fk the list

Skybird

Skybird was pushed early by BOTH Toogeloo and Goatmeal. By day end he was the largest alternative wagon to Toogeloo, and before that was the largest alternative wagon to Goatmeal and Toogeloo. Goatmeal was on that wagon.

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Top Scum Leans

Tammy
Wraith (reaction to McMenno’s pick)
Skybird (reaction to McMenno’s pick)
Creature (reaction to McMenno’s pick)
DiamondSentinel (reaction to McMenno pick)

Players who if aren’t dead by the end of Night 2 are probably scum:
MagnaOfIllussion
SpyreX

On the Vengeful Strongman, I like McMenno’s pick. The vengeful portion of the role is essentially another Vig, maybe slightly better in a scum hands since they’ve already been caught and lynched giving them a free kill. Basically all killing roles need to be picked asap to “hopefully” keep them from scum hands, so Wraith’s reaction to it after the discussion on how important Garry was to pick first seems extremely bad. Skybird’s and Creature’s (as well as Wraith’s 323) comments are basically trying to throw dirt on the pick (or McMenno himself irt 323), which I also don’t like. Regardless of whether McMenno is town or scum, the role needed to get picked early, which lends townpoints. We can judge him on his use of the ability later. (Re-ISOing Wraith, he did sow the idea that picking the Vengful Strongman early would be a scum thing to do, not sure if this was an early attempt at scaring town off the role, trying to discredit the slot before it was even picked, or just a failtown mentality).

As I continue to read, I continue to see more people throw dirt on the McMenno pick. Magna summed it up beautifully as to why it’s not a bad pick, and I personally would have also picked something scum sided as soon as possible, so I am on the side that McMenno did the right thing.
Wraith, Skybird, Creature, DiamondSentinel… for sure at least one scum in here, either for the popularity wagon, or for bussing.

Skybird (1) - PeregrineV

---I remember having a gut town read on PV early, lost track of his content after a bit. I didn't like Skybird's mud-slinging of McMenno.

Double Trouble (1) - SpyreX

---Null read on DT, I don't think I've even read a post by them in the early game.

I left in his comments on SpyreX as well (or rather, lack thereof in the second case).

Skynird looks scum. More excuses not to play than me, LOL.

Also McMenno.

My bet with the current votecount is that top wagons are town, the scum doesn't need to bus. Just a note for the future.

-DGB

@Ranmaru

Who do you want to vote between Skybird & McMenno? Choose your pokemon.

-DGB

Skybird. Mcmenno is town.

Kthen

VOTE: Skybird

Errant

A big part of my townread of Errant is that if he was scum he would have done something to screw with the planning, or framed someone by now. He's the linchpin to much of my night strategy at this point and if he was scum he could do much to skew our perception of events and likely get away with it.

Errant was also a heavy early push by Goatmeal. His vote was on Errant for some time D1.

Unvote; Vote: Errant

1. Agree with Gen X on the votes. Rings of him proving a point, rather than voting for suspicion.
2. No progression on his vote on us, nor gives a reason for why he thinks our slot is scum.
3. His #1022 sounds fake. It doesn't line up with the feeling of anger.

i'll make a goatmeal/other reads post later but essentially i want goatmeal in a room with other scumreads and for the room to be blocked (the one that means they can't act outside of the room), then we leash them, say to shoot some consensus scumread/useless player, and if they don't, we lynch them.

You have not even responded to us nor have you explained why you scumread us. Explain.

Because you

both

had barely acknowledge each other up to that point and then voted each other. The difference is that Errant jumping on a wagon on you at that time is much more understandable than your reasoning for voting him in response.

---

That's fucking weak and I should have noticed it earlier. And that you agreed with it as a way to justify blatant OMGUS strengthens my soft scumread on you.

1. How is it more understandable if you agree with our second point on him, which is that he calls us scummy without explaining. It seemed out of place.
2. He voted Gen X to then vote us, that doesn't show that they have conviction but rather are fine with whatever wagon they can jump on.
3. Errant mentions being angered by Gen X's post when it seems more likely that he is annoyed, saying it's anger seems like exaggerating simply to leave the conversation.

Scum: Spiffeh, DT, Errantpabola, Spyrex
Townreads: Genx, UT, Wraith, Moi,, MariaR, Dreamerz, Mcmenno
Nulls: Yume, Tammy, Andrius, Espe (newb), Skybird, Creature, Peregrine, Toogeloo, FA

Vote: Spiffeh

I support wagons on DT, Errant, Spyrex.
I do not support Genx, Menno or UT wagons. (Mcmenno wagon is stupid)
I can compromise to Espe or Toog wagons from my nulls

Mmmm hydra slip

I trust DGB with the Spiffeh read then. I still think DT Errant and Spy are scum.

Wraith we need to talk more about Errant. I don't care if my vote on him seems like scum, I vote scum. I responded to you but I don't think you responded to me.

@

Wraith

:

1. Right, that doesn't matter if scum just votes me. I still vote them. My reasoning has nothing to do with what Errant has done before that.
2. See here's your problem you say it's the worst but I don't think it is at all. Voting two people in succession like that is scummy. You haven't outlined why it was the worst, I am trying to find that and don't see it.
3. Let's look at your Toog example. He voted you WITH REASONS. Errant voted me WITHOUT reason, agreeing with consensus. You think that is ok? What do you think my slot should have done at that time, seeing a vote YOU AGREE IS BAD.
4. I don't have much else, it's a weak scum read, along with my Spyrex read.

In general, you find me as a town lean with bad play. I have not been 'out of the wood works' as I have been here every night. I think I have been trying to interact with as much people as I can with the time I have.

Simple as that.

So there's those.

[SpyreX]

And as for yesterday i clearly was waiting until after i gave my reads

[Wraith]

Drealmerz has 4 votes by my count so I'm going to keep mine where it is for now.

[drealmerz7]

Wraith, you're sure doing a lot of work over there. Got something to prove? Can I interest you in some chicken soup? The rate at which you're burning energy must be exhausting, it'll do you some good.

[Wraith]

... talks about how much he gets "scum pings" from me, but never truly tries to push a wagon on me because he thinks I'm untouchable...

You either aren't listening or are scum. I get scum pings from everyone. I said as much. I said it's just a matter of which player I want to push (which scum-pings make me think it is a worthwhile push that will have traction), yours just haven't been there, and you're not at the top of my scumlist, ya know? with the titus flip as Human, you do look rather tasty

VOTE: wraith

I don't have time or energy atm to make the case (work soon and still have to do life-things), I will later since you're so eager.

Come back, FA.

Wraith, you're sure doing a lot of work over there. Got something to prove? Can I interest you in some chicken soup? The rate at which you're burning energy must be exhausting, it'll do you some good.

You seem to have enough lot of time to shitpost about me actually trying to find scum but apparently not enough to build that case of yours.

Almost as if you don't actually have anything and you're just throwing shade to buy time.

Drealmerz has also constantly, constantly expressed his feeling that this game is very boring because of all the night-planning. Goatmeal expressed a similar sentiment before being lynched.

There have been plenty of opportunities for scumhunting. I've been alternating between scumhunting and night-planning just fine. So have players like Andrius, Titus, and Spiffeh. It increasingly comes off to me that drealmerz is scum frustrated by the night-planning, and who doesn't need to truly scumhunt because he knows who everyone is already. So he complains about how everyone else "isn't scumhunting" in order to look town.

[Wraith]

Going to start working on night planning for a bit. Will be operating under the assumption drealmerz is being lynched today.

With 13 alive, it will be 4 to a room. This makes things really tricky because if we push 4 each to 3 rooms we'll have someone by themselves which isn't acceptable.

Room Assignments

Laboratory - MoI, Andrius, MariaR, Errant
Rec Room - EMPTY
Kitchen - Wraith, Tammy, Spiffeh
Kennels - FA, SpyreX, PeregrineV, UT
Living Quarters - EMPTY
Radio Room - 1SVT, Skybird
Infirmary - EMPTY

Actions

1. PeregrineV Room Blocks ???
2. Spiffeh Commute Decision
3. SpyreX Roleblocks Skybird, ???, ???
4. MoI Sabotages ???
5. Andrius Jailkeeps ???
6. MariaR Protects Errant
7. Scum Nightkill
8. Skybird Vends to SpyreX
9. Errant Watches the Lab

Notes/Musings

1. Operating under the assumption that the Neighborhood stays open after Tammy dies (

@mod: Clarification on that?

) I want our two roleblock PRs that are strong townreads for me in the nightkill-immune room. MariaR and Errant stay together no matter what. We know for certain that Maria is bulletproof and Errant will be protected as well.
2. Kennels is my Scummy Bastard Room. I want FA to vote-roleblock SpyreX and one of Peregrine or UT tonight.
3. Rec Room, Living Quarters, and Infirmary stay empty as buffers. If PeregrineV gets cute and blocks an occupied room we'll know and it will minimize potential bumping shenanigans that result, especially for the Lab.
4. If we have PeregrineV Room Block a specific target, I recommend it be the Radio Room, and 1SVT can confirm where they are if we need it.
5. Skybird Vends to SpyreX again in order to keep him RB'd and eliminate him as a shooter. Actually fucking do it this time Skybird.
6. Andrius should consider JKing MoI tonight in order to make that room extra-safe. I think we can let him use discretion though.

[SirCakez]

The hood stays open if Tammy dies yes.

[Fire Assassin]

I have stuff to say about the game, but it will have to wait for when I can really dig into things:
@Maria That is true, you can flip in behavior fast, but what struck me was how much more motivated you became today and I felt it was very strongly linked to Titus, and you were her lapdog previous days.

[Wraith]

Let's also start piecing together what happened N3. I don't know how much this will help however since not many people were actually roleblocked.

N3 Breakdown

Rooms

Laboratory:

Tammy, Errant, MariaR, Andrius, MoI

Rec Room: EMPTY
Kitchen: EMPTY
Kennels: UTree, SpyreX, Skybird, Spiffeh
Living Quarters: EMPTY
Radio Room:

Wraith, DT, Fire Assassin, drealmerz, PeregrineV

Infirmary: CLOSED DO NOT ENTER

???:

1SVT

Actions

1a. drealmerz Redirects ???
1b. PeregrineV Room Blocks the Living Quarters
2. Spiffeh Commute Decision

3. SpyreX Roleblocks Skybird, Spiffeh, UT

4. drealmerz DOES NOT Bus Drive
5. MoI Sabotages ???

6. Andrius Jailkeeps Wraith

7. MariaR Protects Errant
8. Scum Nightkill Titus

9. Skybird Vends to PeregrineV

10. Errant Watches Laboratory

Questions

1. @drealmerz: Who did you Redirect, if any?
2. @MoI: Who did you Sabotage?
3. @PeregrineV: Did you receive Food?
4. @MariaR: Please confirm whether or not you protected Errant
5. @Errant: Any visitors?
6. @1SVT: Why did you break ranks and where did you end up?

Notes/Musings

1. 1SVT probably ended up in a room alone, which is likely why he didn't bother modposting last night. It's massively suspicious that he broke ranks BUT I do have a plausible alternative theory that can explain it which I'm going to keep close to my chest for now.
2. No one can really be eliminated as the shooter right now, MoI needs to come back and tell us who he Sabotaged. Andrius claims to have JK'd me but I still could have killed Titus by using the Strongman shot if I was scum.

[Fire Assassin]

Fire - I'd like you to talk about scum and number selection today. Also - Maria really really really is unlikely to be scum. So stop barking up that tree.

You have to go more into this, what do you mean?
What are my reads?

Town: You, Spiffeh, Tammy, Andrius, UT, Skybird
Lean Town: PeregrineV, Errantparabola, MariaR
Null: 1 Shot Vanilla Town
Scum: Spyrex, Wraith, drealmerz

[Wraith]

Also I need Kennels occupants to confirm who was in there last night.

[Fire Assassin]

If 1 Shot Vanilla Town was in a room alone shouldn't we sort that slot out?
They have been doing nothing all game too.

[Wraith]

If 1 Shot Vanilla Town was in a room alone shouldn't we sort that slot out?
They have been doing nothing all game too.

I was thinking the same thing just now. Considering switching out 1SVT and PeregrineV or UT in the Kennels tonight.

If you mean lynch them today, then hell no. Drealmerz and SpyreX have more against them traditionally.

[Andrius]

Andy - what made you choose Wraith over Tammy to jail?

Wraith POE wall was so town that will literally win the game with less players.
I don't agree with all his reads (spy) but I trust him as town and seriously doubt scum so I propose a POE plan win 2 team members dead.

And if the scum think I'm always on Tammy they'll think they're safe to kill someone else. They're not.

[Andrius]

Also also that death is shaking all my reads up right now. That kill just makes no sense.

Also cubed it is breaking my heart but I think Andy is my strongest scum read right now . I'm going to go drink about it or something.

I would love to see a full reads list in thread, even if you're doubtful.
The non neighbor types need to see your thought process too.

Tammy I have a pint in the fridge maybe we should have dinner and chat again.

[Andrius]

I mean them showing up is wifom, but if they knew who the neighbors were they knew that they were going to be blocked for their shot, which seems more than wifom but completely counter intuitive.

So, I don't know.

Toogaloo Boogaloo?
I have no idea.
So much crap this game from the scumteam makes no sense they just dance the Toogaloo Boogaloo and we're left puzzled.

This is a good point though. Why have Goatmeal to to the Lab if they know they'll be blocked and they have scum in the hood? Because it's a massive waste. Especially after Toogaloo suicides for the team?

[Andrius]

The scum teams kill decisions are giving me an aneurism. Why would anyone want to kill Titus?

Probably to throw shade on others.
My guess is they wanted to try and push for a PV lynch.
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Huh?

Why would Titus making that post mean we would go for pv? And couldn't they accomplish that by killing a player that people listen to?

I listened to Titus.