Newbie 1756: Balloon (Game Over)

[Transcend]

Let's lynch for rb to possibly clear Charloux.

[Accountant]

Hey all, I feel pretty physically awful today. Terrible coughing fits and headaches, so don't expext text walls from me today. I still have faith in Charloux, more or less - like I said, I'd expect scum to claim BP so they have an explanation why they survived the night, and Charloux hasn't been coasting along on the trust offered to him after his claim.

@Morning Tweet: I explained my reasoning in the very paragraph you quoted. Charloux is a claimed doc, which means there's no way to stop scum from killing her. WCS was the other kill option, but obviously I wasn't going to outright say it in case mafia was genuinely clueless enough to miss that WCS was a PR.

[Manuel87]

Transcend, I had my moments the previous day regarding that wagon but I do not feel awful. I do, in fact, believe we'll lynch scum today.

So aside from some moments you liked the wagon on Misa but never voted her?
Why did you vote for Accountant yesterday when you liked the wagon on Misa?

What makes you so sure we will lynch scum today?

Wwhy did Transcend drop so low in your reads?

[Transcend]

morning tweet + accountant can't be scum together

but one of them is scum with either norska or charloux

let's lynch MT or accountant today.

TI is probably town.

Manny is probably town.

[Morning Tweet]

Spoiler: Reply

Transcend, I had my moments the previous day regarding that wagon but I do not feel awful. I do, in fact, believe we'll lynch scum today.

So aside from some moments you liked the wagon on Misa but never voted her?

I was referring to being emotional about the Misa wagon. Transcend's last 15 or so posts before the lynch are what I'm referring to, hence "but I do not feel awful".

Why did you vote for Accountant yesterday when you liked the wagon on Misa?

You mean this..?

I'll be on later to give my thoughts, although I do agree with the pressure on Misa for lurking (I did not post much day one in my scum game).

Compare that to my later posts..

I admit I'm not 100% sure but Misa's freaking me out

No, it's more like a "I'm trying to convince myself Accountant is town and you're scum, but it's not going so well and my mind's imploding on itself" freak out

Tweet said she'd been scumreading Accountant for ages but only changed to voting for him after I started wondering if he was scum and Manuel expressed similar stuff....

Yes.. and I PoE scumread Misa for a while too. What's your point?

Once others chimed in about Accountant and Misa started acting town

I started a wagon I think is better.

(There's your answer btw)

What makes you so sure we will lynch scum today?

Because I'm planning on bussing my scumpartner, obviously..

I'm fairly optimistic about my reads. What's your reasoning behind this question? (other than how it makes your post look bigger)

Why did Transcend drop so low in your reads?

Here's the ONE substantial question you have for me. I'm displeased he wouldn't join me on my Accountant venture, yet you were willing to.

i really don't know what misa is flipping, expecting green but hope for red yannoe?

god i've been such a wuss this game

VOTE: Misa

I'm sorry I realaly don't know I hope you can forgive me if you flip green I just need immediate information

-,- keep in mind we had 4-5 days left this wasn't a hurried lynch

Not really a scumread, more of a FoS, as thatsit put it.

[Transcend]

we had 4-5 days but deadline lynches are awful and i thought misa was already hammered lol

[Transcend]

actually i might've been wrong about this one

VOTE: NorskaBlue

[Morning Tweet]

why'd you vote Misa if you thought she was already hammered wat

Also, what makes Accountant/MT more worthy of rope than Charloux/Norska, if one of us in each group is scum?

pedit k nvm

[Transcend]

because im stupid and couldn't decide if she was town or scum so eh

[Accountant]

@Morning Tweet: Why did you ask me why I thought Charloux was an obvious kill. Were you confused by how she was an obvious kill?

@Transcend: I'm very uncomfortable with your continued townread on thatsit. I searched your ISO and found two instances of you explaining why you townread him(feel free to correct me if I missed a post):

He hasn't done exactly anything to wow me but I think him asking if you would play to the advantage of town if you were scum was really towny imo.

and

thatsit just screams mislynch bait to me

I think these are two good reasons why you'd read thatsit as town. I don't think these are good enough reasons for you to have as strong a read on thatsit as you currently do. For the first reason, it's definitely pretty towny, but it's also easily faked by scum. I can't imagine that you would townread him so hard and never even consider changing your read on him - to the point that you even use him as confirmed town in a PoE post - to that extent.

As for the second, I don't buy that you think "mislynch bait" players are always town. Surely you've seen some scum who were "mislynch bait" players(though obviously it wouldn't be a mislynch bait then) - iraonvp was one in Nahdia's Mini, and I know you spectated that game. Being easily lynchable is due to a player's playing style, which doesn't change no matter what role PM they have. Finally, if you really thought that way, you wouldn't have wagoned Charloux before the claim.

Please clarify your thoughts and explain these discrepancies.

[thatsit]

am i right that we should prob look for maf in the non-misa votes? I feel like with that bandwagon goin on mafia would try to put fos on others to take the responsibility of the lynch off themselves. thought I really do FOS transcend hard now. "feeling terrible" is not an excuse at all for voting on someone. also his (her?) quality of posts went down significantly when misa was being lynched.

and I feel that his strong townread on me may have something to do with this being my first game, and him trying to gain my trust that way.

[NorskaBlue]

Well. I was wrong about Misa, I was wrong about WCSBO, and I was seemingly wrong about Char. If this pattern carries on, scum will be Accountant and Transcend.

am i right that we should prob look for maf in the non-misa votes?

Including yourself?

Let's lynch for rb to possibly clear Charloux.

What does lynch for rb mean?

[thatsit]

yeah including me lmao. but particularly manuel for me

[Accountant]

He means that he wants to try to lynch the Mafia Roleblocker in order to prove that a doctor exists(since any setup with Roleblocker and Cop has a Doctor), thus clearing Charloux.

@thatsit: Why Manuel in particular?

@Norska: Who are your scumreads and why?

[Morning Tweet]

@Accountant No, my point was Charloux was a less likely kill than WCS. Your "I didn't want to outright say it in case scum missed WCS's softclaim" explanation was enough for me.

Although now you're refering to Charloux as an obvious kill again so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Transcend I feel as uncomfortable with your hammer as I did initially.

@Norska "If this pattern continues on scum will be Accountant and Transcend" implies that you townread them both fairly strongly. Do you have another townread inside thatsit, Manuel, and myself?

[Manuel87]

am i right that we should prob look for maf in the non-misa votes?

Why do you think we should look for Mafia in the non-Misa votes?
Why didnt you post your readlist when asked yesterday and kept your vote on WCS the entire time?

[thatsit]

the push on misa was pretty unanimous, and i feel that maf might want to keep their vote off of misa since she was gonna be lynched anyways.

and I'm pretty busy with college apps, sorry

[thatsit]

the push on misa was pretty unanimous, and i feel that maf might want to keep their vote off of misa since she was gonna be lynched anyways.

and I'm pretty busy with college apps, sorry

[Accountant]

@thatsit: Why Manuel in particular?

Please answer the question.

[thatsit]

what i said before. he pushed on you when misa was being lynched, but did nothing to really defend misa. #555

[Accountant]

Do you then believe that Manuel and Transcend are the scum team?

[Transcend]

Dodge

[thatsit]

not sure. possible.

[Accountant]

not sure. possible.

You have hard scumreads on Manuel and Transcend and seemingly nobody else. Why are you so unsure?

[Accountant]

Transcend, I'm still waiting on your response. Please get back to this game soon.