Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]


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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:41 am

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In post 1223, BATORU wrote:you don't think we have time to get a lynch outside the current top wagons with 2 days left? i'm still not used to forum mafia or what it takes

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with this level of activity, it might not work out.
the thing is, those three 'top wagons', don't exactly have a lot of votes, and those that are there (like pisskop) seem to just be milling about.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:42 am

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i misread the post the first time, now it makes more sense

i was gonna say i don't really think the things you described are condemning scumtells

but i'm so out of the loop that i didn't realize you were just talking about the big wagons even tho u said it

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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:42 am

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We Image
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But its not really a safe thing. That kind of rapid shift and out-of-the-blue switching smells like the rankness of compromise lynching.


But, if you have a strong feel about another person, than by all means lay it on us. We didnt need to spend 12 days waffling, so I dont know why you would, but whats 2 more atp.
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:44 am

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In post 1227, pisskop wrote:We Image
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But its not really a safe thing. That kind of rapid shift and out-of-the-blue switching smells like the rankness of compromise lynching.


But, if you have a strong feel about another person, than by all means lay it on us. We didnt need to spend 12 days waffling, so I dont know why you would, but whats 2 more atp.
i wanted your opinion on my feelings on Gamma.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:46 am

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In post 1225, Not Chara wrote:
In post 1223, BATORU wrote:you don't think we have time to get a lynch outside the current top wagons with 2 days left? i'm still not used to forum mafia or what it takes

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with this level of activity, it might not work out.
the thing is, those three 'top wagons', don't exactly have a lot of votes, and those that are there (like pisskop) seem to just be milling about.
what do you mean by "milling about"? he stated three potential lynches and did it in pretty definitive words. I don't see not voting immediately as counterintuitive, since he
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:47 am

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Gamma seems town enough. I dont particularly think his lynch would be the best lynch. y?
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:48 am

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In post 1227, pisskop wrote:We Image
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But its not really a safe thing. That kind of rapid shift and out-of-the-blue switching smells like the rankness of compromise lynching.


But, if you have a strong feel about another person, than by all means lay it on us. We didnt need to spend 12 days waffling, so I dont know why you would, but whats 2 more atp.
OK. I don't have a
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:50 am

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In post 1230, pisskop wrote:Gamma seems town enough. I dont particularly think his lynch would be the best lynch. y?
depends on that "slip" for me lol

if you're town though your reads are probably better than mine
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:50 am

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what i mean is there's less preference on who to lynch. that's how it's looking to me.
'we need a lynch, these are the leading wagons' is fine, but if there's no strong reason given for which one to consolidate on, it's up in the air who actually gets lynched. it's easy for scum to swing the lynch onto a town option of the three with little blowback because 'they were a leading wagon', or 'we needed the lynch'. maybe this is just pisskop, and the others there have stronger feelings? i would need to read again.

not voting immediately isn't the issue. i'd also wait until the latest it's needed to vote whoever would need to be lynched. i just don't feel we're there yet. and saying that all of the wagons have reasons to be lynched is not enforcing an actual lynch choice.

pedit: he feels like he's forcing his tone and opinions. i pointed out some things in my catchup, but i could look through his ISO again.
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:59 am

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although i thought he was townier when he was being wagoned and i think ru thinks he's towny too so i doubt i'll end up voting him unless something major happens

predit: oh i see. what's your read on dunnstral overall?
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:02 am

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on second thought, i have time to iso now, so if you've already stated it i'll see it there
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:04 am

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scumlean overall, but i do agree that there hasn't been much evidence given for why he's scum. votes like Gamma's in particular don't have any real logic behind them, and the pattern of accusing Dunn of things like 'talking about his spell as a curse' and then saying that he isn't responding to accusations like town would don't look good to me. my issue with him right now would be that he didn't seem to understand why i said i voted for him, and kept asking about it. and i don't feel he's been doing any recent hunting beyond asking players on his wagon why they're voting him. if there was followup there, i might be inclined to call it town, but as it is there's no much towny about him. i do wonder if i should ignore the bad arguments for scum Dunn and just participate in the lynch because of the other problems, but i don't like ignoring Gamma if i can help it.

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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:15 am

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About the scumslip: he alluded to extra powers. I don't believe anyone starts with two spells.
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:17 am

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Why not?
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:28 am

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Because the mechanics involved make me think everyone starts with one.
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:30 am

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In post 1239, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because the mechanics involved make me think everyone starts with one.
so you've turned setup-spec into a scumslip from Dunnstral?

and why, if scum could start with a normal spell and dark magic, would it not be possible for town to have a negative utility spell on top of a different spell?
and why does Dunn being non-specific about full-claiming mean he must have more spells?
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:34 am

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In post 1239, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because the mechanics involved make me think everyone starts with one.
Can you be more specific?
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:38 pm

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The fact that everyone is forced to use powers makes me think everyone doesn't have a choice at first.
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:56 pm

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that doesn't mean you can't be forced to use multiple spells at once...... did the mod clarify this or something?
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:56 pm

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In post 1243, Impoetic wrote:that doesn't mean you can't be forced to use multiple spells at once...... did the mod clarify this or something?
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:02 pm

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In post 1237, Gamma Emerald wrote:About the scumslip: he alluded to extra powers. I don't believe anyone starts with two spells.
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:58 pm

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Can more people vote Pisskop. I actually think I'm more confident in that one than Dunn now.

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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:00 pm

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VOTE: sondam
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:01 pm

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In post 1246, Sondam wrote:Can more people vote Pisskop. I actually think I'm more confident in that one than Dunn now.

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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:01 pm

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Lets 1v1.
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