Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[Nahdia]

It's always quite easy to tell when a member of the Darrow Family is around; they'll be sure to tell you at the first opportunity. This despite there being no particularly notable achievements to attribute to their family in the last few hundred years.

-Excerpt from

The Fifteen Families

by Frederick Kendall

Votecount 1.13

Sondam (4):

Dunnstral, BTD6_Maker, Nosferatu, pisskop

pisskop (4):

Sondam, Gamma Emerald, drealmerz7, ironstove

Not Chara (1):

Fire Assassin

Nosferatu (1):

Prism

drealmerz (1):

Sickofit1138

Gamma Emerald (1):

Not Chara

Not Voting (1):

BATORU

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-12-01 13:05:00).

Fire Assassin has been prodded.

[ironstove]

1 Day left, can we get the pisscop lynch to go through?

Compare ISOs of him and sondam, I think pisskop looks much worse.

Also his statement:

We need wagons. Dunn, NC, or Sondam pls

Really strange for making this because if you look at the VC directly above it:

The Vex Family is notably the smallest of still surviving families. They are a close-knit and secretive group, leading to some referring to their family as a hereditary cult.

-Excerpt from

The Fifteen Families

by Frederick Kendall

Votecount 1.12

Dunnstral (3):

pisskop, Gamma Emerald, drealmerz7

Sondam (3):

Dunnstral, BTD6_Maker, ironstove

Not Chara (2):

Fire Assassin, Nosferatu

pisskop (1):

Sondam

Nosferatu (1):

Prism

drealmerz (1):

Sickofit1138

Gamma Emerald (1):

Not Chara

Not Voting (1):

BATORU

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-12-01 13:05:00).

BATORU & Prism have been prodded.

He makes no comment on the bizarre distribution of votes if he his scum team is authentic, like a real town player needs to look at this for a second and question how it makes a lick of sense that those three are scum together, but this guy doesn't miss a beat. I think he's just playing as lazy/low-effort scum, and I'd like to see him pushed as a lynch today.

[Gamma Emerald]

1 Day left, can we get the pisscop lynch to go through?

Compare ISOs of him and sondam, I think pisskop looks much worse.

Also his statement:

We need wagons. Dunn, NC, or Sondam pls

Really strange for making this because if you look at the VC directly above it:

The Vex Family is notably the smallest of still surviving families. They are a close-knit and secretive group, leading to some referring to their family as a hereditary cult.

-Excerpt from

The Fifteen Families

by Frederick Kendall

Votecount 1.12

Dunnstral (3):

pisskop, Gamma Emerald, drealmerz7

Sondam (3):

Dunnstral, BTD6_Maker, ironstove

Not Chara (2):

Fire Assassin, Nosferatu

pisskop (1):

Sondam

Nosferatu (1):

Prism

drealmerz (1):

Sickofit1138

Gamma Emerald (1):

Not Chara

Not Voting (1):

BATORU

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-12-01 13:05:00).

BATORU & Prism have been prodded.

He makes no comment on the bizarre distribution of votes if he his scum team is authentic, like a real town player needs to look at this for a second and question how it makes a lick of sense that those three are scum together, but this guy doesn't miss a beat. I think he's just playing as lazy/low-effort scum, and I'd like to see him pushed as a lynch today.

gfdi
also explain your role

[ironstove]

I want to note how suspicious BTD looks in 1323 as trying to bus his partner if pisskop flips mafia.

BTD, please stop talking about how suspicious pisskop looks and put your on him. Get on the wagon early and maybe I'll town read you tomorrow instead of you displaying this middle of the road behavior waiting to see if this wagon actually picks up enough steam so you can take credit for the hammer.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want to note how suspicious BTD looks in 1323 as trying to bus his partner if pisskop flips mafia.

BTD, please stop talking about how suspicious pisskop looks and put your on him. Get on the wagon early and maybe I'll town read you tomorrow instead of you displaying this middle of the road behavior waiting to see if this wagon actually picks up enough steam so you can take credit for the hammer.

He asked for a VC. He probably wanted to know where the votes were at.

[BTD6_maker]

yes? Thats good. Maybe Im not following. Its not my job or preference to interject myself onto them but instead force others onto the wagons and then reading the interactions that result.

And that should be reflected in my play. yes?

It is your job to give reasons, and genuine reasons, not flimsy setup spec. You seem to want to avoid giving reasons. I know how I felt during Day 2 of Open 642 so I can understand not wanting to give reasons being part of a scum mentality. Do you expect to force others onto wagons without even giving a hint of a reason? Giving reasons is an integral part of scumhunting, which you should strive to do if Town.

VOTE: Pisskop

From what I have read so far this looks bad, worse than Sondam.

PEdit: I was unsure at first, but 1324 convinced me.

[pisskop]

how?

[ironstove]

gfdi
also explain your role

GFDI?

And no. Why would I? Explain why it's a +EV play for me to give so much information? It's sus as hell that you're trying to fish for info. I want you to explain what the benefit is for town's win condition.

[pisskop]

wholly cow yea I dont think Ill be playing another game with straight newbloods again. Wis did the right thing.


fucking vca on D1 ...

[Gamma Emerald]

gfdi
also explain your role

GFDI?

And no. Why would I? Explain why it's a +EV play for me to give so much information? It's sus as hell that you're trying to fish for info. I want you to explain what the benefit is for town's win condition.

How about the fact I can't tell how your role would be balanced.

[Dunnstral]

When did pisskop claim?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also pk already explained that his reads are independent.

[ironstove]

gfdi
also explain your role

GFDI?

And no. Why would I? Explain why it's a +EV play for me to give so much information? It's sus as hell that you're trying to fish for info. I want you to explain what the benefit is for town's win condition.

How about the fact I can't tell how your role would be balanced.

You're actually not answering my question. I don't care what you believe or don't believe, I'm asking you why me explaining it to you is important to town's win condition.

Why aren't you answering this question?

[Gamma Emerald]

gfdi
also explain your role

GFDI?

And no. Why would I? Explain why it's a +EV play for me to give so much information? It's sus as hell that you're trying to fish for info. I want you to explain what the benefit is for town's win condition.

How about the fact I can't tell how your role would be balanced.

You're actually not answering my question. I don't care what you believe or don't believe, I'm asking you why me explaining it to you is important to town's win condition.

Why aren't you answering this question?

I want to know:
What happens to spells that are reflected?
How is your ability transmitted?

[pisskop]

We dont have time for an iron lynch.

the time for that was when I was pushing that.

[ironstove]

gfdi
also explain your role

GFDI?

And no. Why would I? Explain why it's a +EV play for me to give so much information? It's sus as hell that you're trying to fish for info. I want you to explain what the benefit is for town's win condition.

How about the fact I can't tell how your role would be balanced.

You're actually not answering my question. I don't care what you believe or don't believe, I'm asking you why me explaining it to you is important to town's win condition.

Why aren't you answering this question?

I want to know:
What happens to spells that are reflected?
How is your ability transmitted?

I already know what you're asking me, I'm asking you why this information helps town? Can you please explain this to me and I will examine your answer and determine if your motivation is town centered, because right now it just looks like you're scum desperately trying to find information about me, I think the only people that would be afraid of the mechanics of a spell like mine are scum. Do you disagree? I'm sure you will say you do, and when you do, please explain to me why a town player would ever be concerned about the specific mechanics of my role.

[Gamma Emerald]

gfdi
also explain your role

GFDI?

And no. Why would I? Explain why it's a +EV play for me to give so much information? It's sus as hell that you're trying to fish for info. I want you to explain what the benefit is for town's win condition.

How about the fact I can't tell how your role would be balanced.

You're actually not answering my question. I don't care what you believe or don't believe, I'm asking you why me explaining it to you is important to town's win condition.

Why aren't you answering this question?

I want to know:
What happens to spells that are reflected?
How is your ability transmitted?

I already know what you're asking me, I'm asking you why this information helps town? Can you please explain this to me and I will examine your answer and determine if your motivation is town centered, because right now it just looks like you're scum desperately trying to find information about me, I think the only people that would be afraid of the mechanics of a spell like mine are scum. Do you disagree? I'm sure you will say you do, and when you do, please explain to me why a town player would ever be concerned about the specific mechanics of my role.

It helps town determine whether it's worth it to target you with their abilities.

[ironstove]

I've asked you multiple times to name 1 town benefit to me divulging more information than I already have that is town motivated, and you've dodged every single time, you are scum, aren't you?

Gamma, are you just asking me over and over for information because you're mafia?

[pisskop]

A more pertainent question is why he claimed to be a reflector. If its an active ability than he could use it when he felt threatened.
If it is a passive/auto ability then its only 1 spell that fails.


Does iron even know what the NAS is?

[ironstove]

It helps

town

mafia determine whether it's worth it to target you with their abilities

.

FTFY

[Gamma Emerald]

I've asked you multiple times to name 1 town benefit to me divulging more information than I already have that is town motivated, and you've dodged every single time, you are scum, aren't you?

Gamma, are you just asking me over and over for information because you're mafia?

I'm asking you because I don't know what the fuck your role does. Does it disable you from getting spells? Does it make spells targeting you fail? Do spells that target you simply disappear? Only you know this.

[pisskop]

Nope. If we all have an ability and the NAS is NAR then scum can simply use their abilitypowers on you then kill you.

Youve hurt us by claiming to begin with and only made it worse by refusing to say more.

[ironstove]

As a wizard, you are skilled in channeling arcane energies. Your abilities function as follows:

Whenever you are hit by a spell,

you will gain that spell in your spellbook.

Unless stated otherwise

, all abilities are compulsive; you must use them at your first opportunity. If you do not select a target, one will be randomly selected for you.

Unless stated otherwise,

all abilities are 1-shot; they will be removed from your spellbook once no uses remain.
If killed, you will flip with only the spells you possess at the time of your death.
None of the above applies to dark magic.

[ironstove]

You think I'm even telling the truth to begin with when I claimed my power, that's the funny thing so you actually took everything I said literally.

[ironstove]

I'm not explaining shit. You can find out specifics after I'm either dead from being lynched or the game ends.