Then that would make him scum-sided instead of balanced.In post 1748, Wisdom wrote:nope. Hes most likely a lyncher, but on town flavor. Killing shaddow was a must for him, we'd lynch him if he didnt.In post 1747, PeregrineV wrote:So then Leon is pretty much as claimed.
In post 1752, Kagami wrote:Meh, I guess MoI pretty much confirmed the stabbing flavor in the Bulb death scene.
Alright, ok with calling wisdom town for now.
No and no.In post 1756, Kagami wrote:Would nacho have shot tammy? Maybe.
Farside would have extra special interest in that one.
Meh, you might just be right wis.
Not really an exaggeration, he was making literally dozens of posts elsewhereIn post 1740, Tammy wrote:In post 1737, SirCakez wrote:ffs my bad
I just looked at his other games and he's definitely posting a LOT more in other games then here....
I'm frustrated that he's not posting here, but this is a bit exaggerative. He's in one other game here and he posted in that one game over the course of an hour or so.
Infinity I wasn't saying he's scum because he didn't catch up, I'm saying he's probably scum because he's just probably scum. He's clearly following along as he wanted Leon to full claim. He could have responded to any other thing as well and he didn't.
Far side what do you think of kraska's role intersection with mine?
Nacho - I feel like you must have felt in three little pigs right now. I think you're scum, but I really don't want you to be and I don't know if I'm partly thinking you're scum because I'm so frustrated waiting for you to talk about someone who is not wisdom. Actually you are also giving me the feeling you gave me at gog too.
This is a small glimpse of my meltdown from Family Mafia, which, surprise surprise, you were in:In post 1448, SirCakez wrote:Because it looked like you were trying to avoid pushing him. And because you're using lots of AtE that I don't think you'd resort to as town.
I am intentionally being very restrained with my push on you because of those past games, but I've lost my faith in you being town
Every single post you've made today has to do with pushing me - you haven't pushed any significant suspects anywhere else, you've just pushed me. I want you to feel guilty because just one time I'd like to realize that you fucked up and I'd like you to learn from it; never in my life have I played with someone so insistently terrible at reading me (and some people are absolutely atrocious, trust me); do you really not see how your posts today could be construed as "deathtunneling"? Where have you considered the possibility of me being town this game day?In post 1448, SirCakez wrote:How is this deathtunneling? I've barely mentioned you up until today
Like that's just misrep to make me feel guilty
Some of it was based on meta, but I feel like pushing back at him for not giving good enough reasons for shooting Bulba when he had stronger reasons elsewhere and explaining problems with the reasons was pushing me were pretty meta light.In post 1498, farside22 wrote:Oh as for reasons I town read a player it's well know my reasons look terrible by all, which is why I don't explain it.
I'm not sure why meta isn't enough since most of the scum read on nacho is how you know each other and what you expect.
Since I can't refer to ongoing games I'm just giving the one game reference for now.
In post 1764, Nachomamma8 wrote:Where have you considered the possibility of me being town this game day?
I was mixing up Chain of Command with There Is No Doctor, another game where Bulbazak had a mutual deathtunnel with someone that hurt the town as a whole (and then we got rolled because obvscum). That explanation helps; the pieces where you explain where Grey's behavior factored into your reaction and explaining the depth of your Bulbazak experience helps a lot in particular.In post 1504, Wisdom wrote:I am not sure you remember which game Chain of Command was, given you referred to you and ffery being "obvscum" which doesn't make sense; you were town and ffery wasn't in the game. So, in that game I had my most toxic deathtunnel I've ever had, on Bulbazak, where each post he made not only I grew more certain he's scum, but I couldn't wait to have him out of the game. After an unbelievably toxic D1, I got him lynched, and then selfvoted in shame D2 like I had promised to do if he flipped town. Of course mafia won.
It's weird to push Wisdom for the switch when 1) the switch isn't 100% (he's still shown flashes of paranoia after he backed off), and 2) he explained why he switched but the only thing you're focused on is the fact that he switched. I also have no idea why you'd classify it as a "slip" (unless you think he didn't mean to back off there???) but I also see several people asking you about it so I'm sure you'll explain it eventually.In post 1516, farside22 wrote:This reads as a slip but I think more like a buss at this point.
I see no reason to have the sudden tantrum switch.
I like farside's frustration in general - I liked it when she was frustrated with Tammy earlier, and I liked it when she responded to Wisdom initially. I don't really like much else coming from the slot; I have trouble believing that scum!farside believes that the 180 Wisdom thing is a "slip/bus" and I think that the "two dead townies" mantra comes off fake, but I'm more interested in sorting you/PV than I am lynching her right this moment. PV had an adorable moment and then basically faded into dust, and with you, I'd feel a hell of a lot better with this game if you were scum because it means that this isn't your typical play.In post 1532, SirCakez wrote:I think her recent frustration with Wisdom looks very genuine.
In post 740, farside22 wrote:Zzzzzzzzzzzz
I feel like I'm being pranked this game.
I don't even get what wis point is.
These two posts in particular feel different from farside's reaction in Duck Duck Goose - there she seemed more restrained, and threatened to rant instead of actually ranting. I think her push back is unreasonable in general but the conviction in it feels real.In post 728, farside22 wrote:Yeah the rest of the snip out was more important.In post 724, Wisdom wrote:also I wanna note this is fakeIn post 720, farside22 wrote:I'm just being stubborn
If you were town and you knew you are being stubborn you would stop it and look at things with a clear mind
Instead you just want to be perceived as stubborn town
But keep ignoring hark.
I'll just rant at you post game about being blind.
What do you think of him compared to Real Folks Blues? I disliked him that game because it felt like he was just sort of floating along, and he feels pretty similar to there; the only major difference in my mind is the reasons I'm bothered by his interactions with me.In post 1537, kraska77 wrote:Either way I still prefer lynching cakes first. Idk why the stuff I said on him got dismissed as bs earlier...cakes has been in almost all my recent games, nothing he put out here looks like a product of a scum hunting mindset. There is not a single novel/personal explanation he provided for the way his readlists morphed throughout the game. I look at the way his readlists changed and can't help but think this is scum following changes in the game and putting together readlists as uncontentious as possible
What were the similarities you saw between the two games?
Wisdom's also had significant pushes on Leonshade and Grey. Why do you think that him pushing me means that we're scum together? Don't you think that it'd be a smarter idea to ram through mislynches on PV and Cakez if we were scum together (since a Wisdom-me scumteam controls most of where the discussion of the day is focused)?In post 1554, farside22 wrote:So he pushed nacho and Shadow but pushed others above them.
Also he did what infinity did in poker mafia, which is ask a player what they think of scum and then accuse the player of having said read.
It's basically a trap when scum ask the question and then uses said comment later to call that player scum.
