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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:04 am

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We should get the replacement caught up and just lynch someone already. I think town is a little bit stuck. Not to mention the deadline obviously

Sorry panther someone else can do that because it's just too much to sift through for my brain now
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:12 am

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In post 1975, Infinity 324 wrote:We should get the replacement caught up and just lynch someone already. I think town is a little bit stuck. Not to mention the deadline obviously

Sorry panther someone else can do that because it's just too much to sift through for my brain now
ya no worries I'll get there. I never give cliffs when people ask, personally

you may or may not recall my penchant for focusing on small details, but this post of yours is pinging me

first sentence because it's like you're not considering that I could be scum. which makes me think you're scum that knows I'm town

second sentence because "town" vs. "we" tells etc. These aren't foolproof bc some people just talk like that, but it always jumps out at me
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:21 am

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In post 1971, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1964, SirCakez wrote:Ding ding ding

Nacho isn't scumhunting at all. This is vastly different from Folk Blues and Family. There he at least TRIED to do something. Here nothing.
You should probably try to read a quote before you try to piggyback off it.
Wasn't trying to piggyback, it was a comment I wanted to make.
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In post 1964, SirCakez wrote:What duck duck goose?
That game that made you lose your faith on your Farside townread? Did you manage to forget about it somehow?
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:23 am

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In post 1976, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1975, Infinity 324 wrote:We should get the replacement caught up and just lynch someone already. I think town is a little bit stuck. Not to mention the deadline obviously

Sorry panther someone else can do that because it's just too much to sift through for my brain now
ya no worries I'll get there. I never give cliffs when people ask, personally

you may or may not recall my penchant for focusing on small details, but this post of yours is pinging me

first sentence because it's like you're not considering that I could be scum. which makes me think you're scum that knows I'm town

second sentence because "town" vs. "we" tells etc. These aren't foolproof bc some people just talk like that, but it always jumps out at me
Or he thinks your scum?
In post 1965, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't get why people stopped townreading farside
In post 1967, Infinity 324 wrote:scumreading* farside
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:26 am

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In post 1972, PantherPunt wrote:in fact, cliffs on the game would be stellar. day kill and then only a scum death over night is intriguing to say the least
Short version is Leon claimed a 3p lyncher (on a nominally scum flavor role). He shot Shaddow last night (or shaddow killed himself to fool us all into thinking Leon is not mafia).

Hood stuff too.

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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:32 am

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In post 1976, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1975, Infinity 324 wrote:We should get the replacement caught up and just lynch someone already. I think town is a little bit stuck. Not to mention the deadline obviously

Sorry panther someone else can do that because it's just too much to sift through for my brain now
ya no worries I'll get there. I never give cliffs when people ask, personally

you may or may not recall my penchant for focusing on small details, but this post of yours is pinging me

first sentence because it's like you're not considering that I could be scum. which makes me think you're scum that knows I'm town

second sentence because "town" vs. "we" tells etc. These aren't foolproof bc some people just talk like that, but it always jumps out at me

Actually you were scum when we played before and I don't remember you focusing on details.

Re: the first sentence, I don't see how that assumed you're town, I don't know so we should catch you up in case you're town. I don't see why you wouldn't.
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:36 am

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In post 1979, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1972, PantherPunt wrote:in fact, cliffs on the game would be stellar. day kill and then only a scum death over night is intriguing to say the least
Short version is Leon claimed a 3p lyncher (on a nominally scum flavor role). He shot Shaddow last night (or shaddow killed himself to fool us all into thinking Leon is not mafia).

Hood stuff too.

More later after you get some posts under your belt.
had to google that role, and while it's neither here nor there, I fucking hate roles like that and hope it's bullshit

I also don't get why he'd have a shot or how that is even related to the role mechanic

who did he claim he has to get lynched? and does he exit the game if so or just continue to exist?
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:39 am

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He has to kill whoever is xykon, and I think he leaves the game after
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:39 am

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He is a JoaT in addition to being a lyncher.
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:39 am

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But xykon can die in any way for him to win. So it's not really a lyncher.
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:40 am

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Except he's like guaranteed to being lying about his wincon at this point
He even softed it earlier
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:41 am

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Someone once told me the use of spicy was a scum tell.

(That someone was scum when he told me that.)
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:41 am

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No, that's what he thought wisdom was for some odd reason

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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:43 am

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In post 1987, Infinity 324 wrote:No, that's what he thought wisdom was for some odd reason

Pedit: @cakez
No I mean like the "I don't want to discuss this anymore" stuff
Like shying away from the theory that he could be a lyncher on town
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:44 am

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The thing is there are so many different theories about what's really going on there and none of them make much sense. Now that I think about it though, isn't the simple explanation that he's either telling the truth or some other 3p and wisdom is scum? Wisdom has looked town, but he's also quite confident in his scum play.
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:46 am

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In post 1988, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1987, Infinity 324 wrote:No, that's what he thought wisdom was for some odd reason

Pedit: @cakez
No I mean like the "I don't want to discuss this anymore" stuff
Like shying away from the theory that he could be a lyncher on town
I think it was cause he didn't want to out that he though wisdom was lyncher on town

I mean, leon could be scum but no one softclaims scum
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:46 am

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In post 1989, Infinity 324 wrote:Now that I think about it though, isn't the simple explanation that he's either telling the truth or some other 3p and wisdom is scum?
That's the simple explanation. I don't think that it's a true one.
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:49 am

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I'm down to lynch that guy
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:49 am

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In post 1955, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1949, Tammy wrote:I do think it's quite a bit different when we're town together. I do think you're just fucking scum here.
I don't think that you're understanding what I'm trying to say; it's not my intention to make you want to punch you through the computer screen because I never want to be that guy in a game but I do think maybe that you're not quite understanding what I'm getting at

Explain it then
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:51 am

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In post 1986, Tammy wrote:Someone once told me the use of spicy was a scum tell.

(That someone was scum when he told me that.)
not game related, but it's a running joke that stems from a mash where the whole scum team was abusing the use of "spicy" in a borderline inside joke lolcats as they were steamrolling the town (me included)
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:52 am

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In post 1991, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1989, Infinity 324 wrote:Now that I think about it though, isn't the simple explanation that he's either telling the truth or some other 3p and wisdom is scum?
That's the simple explanation. I don't think that it's a true one.
Fair, but the other ones are weird enough that I'd give it at least some weight.

For panther, here'a the issue. Someone brought up a quote from MoI a while ago where he said it was terrible setup design to have the game potentially end by n1, which is what leon's role and wisdom's role together make possible. So the explanations are

-wisdom is scum
-leon is lyncher on town and that constitutes a threat to town, so the game continues while he's alive
-MoI went against what he said earlier
-Leon is mafia and killed his own member for towncred
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:53 am

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In post 1994, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1986, Tammy wrote:Someone once told me the use of spicy was a scum tell.

(That someone was scum when he told me that.)
not game related, but it's a running joke that stems from a mash where the whole scum team was abusing the use of "spicy" in a borderline inside joke lolcats as they were steamrolling the town (me included)
Ah. You were the one that told me that when I said spicy in the game of thrones game.
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:54 am

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In post 1980, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1976, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1975, Infinity 324 wrote:We should get the replacement caught up and just lynch someone already. I think town is a little bit stuck. Not to mention the deadline obviously

Sorry panther someone else can do that because it's just too much to sift through for my brain now
ya no worries I'll get there. I never give cliffs when people ask, personally

you may or may not recall my penchant for focusing on small details, but this post of yours is pinging me

first sentence because it's like you're not considering that I could be scum. which makes me think you're scum that knows I'm town

second sentence because "town" vs. "we" tells etc. These aren't foolproof bc some people just talk like that, but it always jumps out at me

Actually you were scum when we played before and I don't remember you focusing on details.

Re: the first sentence, I don't see how that assumed you're town, I don't know so we should catch you up in case you're town. I don't see why you wouldn't.
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:02 am

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In post 1956, Tammy wrote:It's that kind of trolling bullshit you do to knock people off kilter. I know you're doing it, you know you're doing it. You are letting me down and engaging me in a conversation I don't think you would in the way you are if you are town.
No, you are just on the defensive against me because you think I'm trying to twist your words buy I'm not. I said that because earlier you said that my absence exacerbated your paranoia on me; that's what I was referring to when I was talking about the three little pigs moment and that's what I said when I said the you thought I was scum for not catching up because I thought that's what happened in that flash and I wanted to point out that it was silly; yes, I knew that you had concerns on me for other reasons and I knew that there was more depth than that and that's not why you thought I was scum but I was focused on that moment specifically.
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:02 am

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In post 1995, Infinity 324 wrote:-MoI went against what he said earlier
MoI went against what he said five years earlier, to be clear. This seems like the simplest explanation.
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