Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[BATORU]

I also don't see a reason for Nosferatu to come out of the gate to CC.
Lets say Dunn you are town.
Nos only knows that you saw someone visiting gamma.
That means he is dead or there is someone else also visiting that could mean he is fucked.
Nos immediately says that you are the one who visited.

ScumNos I am almost confident would wait it out and see what happens.
Not jump out of the gate to cc your claim.

No, in this scenario scumNos would have to counterclaim I think. He saw the one spell in beeboy's book, which implies only one person visited. He'd only need to wait to see who claimed it to counterclaim them.

Same with scumDunn.

[BATORU]

@Mod if two people had hypothetically targeted beeboy with the same spell, would both show in his book upon flip or just one?

Should you have multiple instances of a single spell, it will appear multiple times in your spellbook.

This confirms there's scum in the claims, I think. Only other thing I can think of is a spell steal but that's too unlikely.

[BATORU]

Why not join me on BTD, didn't you have him in your list?

absolutely
sure, I'll let you do more on pissk with your experience and join you on BTD

UNVOTE: pisskop

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

What the absolute fuck are you doing?

[Nosferatu]

Why not join me on BTD, didn't you have him in your list?

absolutely
sure, I'll let you do more on pissk with your experience and join you on BTD

UNVOTE: pisskop

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

I have a guilty on nos

no you fucking don't

[BATORU]

Yo before we lynch can we direct me please

I targeted DS last night

I'm a vig

I just steal vote n1, then they die n2

HOLY FUCK NO YOU FAGGOT I KILLED HIM
VOTE: BBmolla

probably fucking scum votestealer who wants to get some town points by stealing credit FOR MY FUCKING VIG.

NOT TODAY BITCH

I don't tend to let time pass before cc'ing.

This is a pretty stark emotional difference to here.

~Ruko

I was 14 when I made that post. Prone to frequent emotional outburts from hormones.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8145938

I was 22 there. I don't think age matters? Like I always get pretty pissed off when someone claims my role regardless. Dunn isn't being overly emotional either though so... :/

Did you soft at all?

[Dunnstral]

Post 1635

[Nosferatu]

nope.

[drealmerz7]

catching up now...hahaha

very interesting

*reads more*

hey a push on BTD6 might help reveal dunn/nos ? but uhhh, yeah...interesting...*reads*...

[drealmerz7]

fuck, I don't care

they are both high SRs for me

let's kill 1 and see what we get

[drealmerz7]

maybe they are both scum and knew that they'd dump an ability out of the game so gave the ability+killed the target with it

[Not Chara]

if Nos used Scry, who did he see targeting beeboy?

[Nosferatu]

if Nos used Scry, who did he see targeting beeboy?

the fuck? Dunnstral? Cause he killed him?

[drealmerz7]

if Nos used Scry, who did he see targeting beeboy?

the fuck? Dunnstral? Cause he killed him?

was waiting for full catchup to sink in for NC

[drealmerz7]

after much reflection I'm leaning more likely that NOS scum out of the 2

UNVOTE: BTD6_Maker

VOTE: Nosferatu

I may waffle on that

[BATORU]

I've read both ISO's.

I lean more towards Nos. Dunn's soft is pretty good.

VOTE: Nos

~Ruko

[BATORU]

Not loving drealmerz but I can't really articulate why right now. It just feels like he's posturing?

~Ruko

[Not Chara]

if Nos used Scry, who did he see targeting beeboy?

the fuck? Dunnstral? Cause he killed him?

was waiting for full catchup to sink in for NC

and yet Nos never claims a guilty on Dunn. he simply ccs the ability, and votes for that. there was no 'i saw Dunn targeting beeboy/Gamma', which, though redundant, is something i'd expect from a player who actually received that report.

then there's that Dunn would have no reason to cc a town ability used by a living player, because it would immediately result in a counterclaim and Dunn's lynch the next day, if he did manage to get Dunn lynched over him.

[Not Chara]

What are odds of both you having scry and visiting same person?

I didn't see anybody but nos visit, and the target died

You are assuming a few things:
1) Your spell has the power to see people performing kills.
2) That scum have no way of circumventing kills if your spell has that ability.
3) That you are only one that has this spell.

why would you assume that the scum nightkill

isn't

a spell? votes are spells. or that a 1-shot watcher ability wouldn't see the nightkill? it would be weird not to make the 'assumption' Dunnstral is making.

[Nosferatu]

I kind of believe you both.
What are odds of both you having scry and visiting same person?

Both of you need to elaborate on targetting gamma/beeboy.

I targeted pisskop first but then I realized gamma was townier and probably a nightkill target, so I switched my vote to him.

The info was received in was the Night 1 End PM.

format was "[name] visited your target during [night]"
you know what goes in brackets but can't quote PM.

are you even fucking reading

[Not Chara]

that post is par for the course for scum ccing a town with a guilty on them. which is exactly what's happening here.
and outing your guilty in response to someone asking for more information isn't what i'm talking about.

[Nosferatu]

why do I need to say "dunn targeted beeboy" if dunn claims a scry and I claim that he didn't? It's implied. I cannot describe how frustratingly stupid this town will be for lynching dunn over me if it does indeed happen.

[Nosferatu]

if Nos used Scry, who did he see targeting beeboy?

the fuck? Dunnstral? Cause he killed him?

was waiting for full catchup to sink in for NC

and yet Nos never claims a guilty on Dunn. he simply ccs the ability, and votes for that. there was no 'i saw Dunn targeting beeboy/Gamma', which,

though redundant

, is something i'd expect from a player who actually received that report.

then there's that Dunn would have no reason to cc a town ability used by a living player, because it would immediately result in a counterclaim and Dunn's lynch the next day, if he did manage to get Dunn lynched over him.

you just fuckin explained why I shouldn't have to spell out for you what happened!
Dunn literally has to cc if he wants to live!
What the fuck?!!?!

[Not Chara]

because there are other ways to determine if someone used a spell. like a motion detector, a tracker, etc. it's not implied when there are other options.

why did scum Dunn purposely cc a town ability? did he know he was caught through dark magic?

[Not Chara]

Nosferatu, you

also

would have had to cc if you wanted to live. you must understand that, if you're town.

[BATORU]

In either of their cases they'd know they're caught and have to cc.

beeboy died. beeboy flipped with the watcher ability in his spellbook. Which means someone watched beeboy get killed. It's pretty obvious from the flip.

~Ruko