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Post Post #2129 (isolation #400) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:25 am

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And if you're town you don't jk either of us
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #401) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:26 am

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In post 2127, MortFeld wrote:Do you think I'm happy with how Arc is acting?
Don't see you threatening to black list her
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Post Post #2134 (isolation #402) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:38 am

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In post 2131, ArcAngel9 wrote:Its doesn't matter. This town is lost with hopeless players like TF in it.


Scum will kill me tonight. Good bye all. I now officially give up chasing Chaos wagon.
Yeah cause there's something wrong with using logic and common sense.
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Post Post #2136 (isolation #403) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:39 am

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In post 2132, ArcAngel9 wrote:If TF is really. there is more tragic. if he is scum with Chaos. Nicely done.
What happens if chaos flips town? Despite what you think you know, it's still possible
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Post Post #2137 (isolation #404) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:40 am

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In post 2135, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2133, MortFeld wrote:Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

If we decide to mislynch. Why not lynch me instead? I don't know if Drone is scum and my vote either remains on confirmed scum or I ll rather vote myself
He isn't confirmed scum
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Post Post #2143 (isolation #405) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:43 am

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In post 2139, ArcAngel9 wrote:This is best you can do. Abuse, insult and belittling people with your stubbornness
You literally just described yourself
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #406) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:46 am

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In post 2140, ArcAngel9 wrote:He is confirmed scum to MEEE!!!!!
He can't be. Limited Cop/vig/jk could actually pass normal review.

Plus you could be lying and are mafia yourself doing a 1v1 to kill the cop

There are other scenarios that could explain it also.


Smart play is not not lynch chaos. If you're town you need to accept that.
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Post Post #2146 (isolation #407) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:50 am

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Still think this setup could be balanced depending on what scum has. Let's try this.

mod was this game approved for normal and balanced or just normal? I couldn't tell from the OP
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Post Post #2151 (isolation #408) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:16 am

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In post 2149, ArcAngel9 wrote:i asked them to see things from my logical perspective
You're logical perspective doesn't include that he could actually be telling the truth though which is very possible
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #409) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:41 am

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Like I get everything you're saying arc. I agree with most of it regarding chaos. But if we're wrong and he's town and he's lynched day 1, I can't handle that. Can you?
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Post Post #2155 (isolation #410) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:59 am

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Fair enough. I don't faith in your experience. You could possibly be scum yourself.
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #411) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:29 am

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In post 2157, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2155, TwoFace wrote:Fair enough. I don't faith in your experience. You could possibly be scum yourself.

Get ready to be guilty when my flip is out.
I won't be guilty of anything other than being cautious. I'm ok with that.
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Post Post #2164 (isolation #412) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:31 am

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In post 2161, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2160, MortFeld wrote:I don't understand why someone would say "Either I vote to lynch x or I vote to lynch nobody" when there are 3 scum

Try this.


I am frustrated and angry with derp town. That's all I can say. Chaos is scum and my vote is there where it needs to be. Rest is up to you.
Not lynching a claimed cop isn't derp town though. I mean you seem to be stubborn like me, as an experienced player you have to know taking the chance day 1 isn't smart play.

If you are town and can't accept that, you don't have the right to insult anyone else.
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Post Post #2170 (isolation #413) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:14 pm

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In post 2168, MortFeld wrote:Pretty sure TF is dying tonight
Oh don't tease me.
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Post Post #2173 (isolation #414) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:35 pm

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Players aren't told if they are jailkept
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Post Post #2178 (isolation #415) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:13 pm

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Y'all really need to understand the definition of confirmation bias. You can't discredit my scum hunting as confirmation bias.

Everyone started with a clean slate
I notice a player do scummy things
Player lies/misreps
Oh this player could be scum.
Vote this player

That's not confirmation bias.
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Post Post #2180 (isolation #416) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:22 pm

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In post 2179, MortFeld wrote:Confirmation bias is being unable to see the possibility that this person is town because you are so certain of the scum case. Which normally wouldn't matter but you have a gun. You are not voting them, you are planning to shoot them.
Pretty sure a while back I asked (at least I thought I did) somebody to explain town motivation for not 1 but 2 players (same slot) intentionally lying about me and I have yet to see anyone explain that. Can you?

Here's the chance, the only chance to get me to listen.
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Post Post #2182 (isolation #417) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:29 pm

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That's not what I'm asking for. People don't think the slot is scum. I want to know how a person who does these scummy things can be town when logic and common sense say that town shouldn't have to do these things.
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Post Post #2185 (isolation #418) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:50 pm

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You're certain I'm going to shoot one of my scum reads. Great. That's not confirmation bias either.
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Post Post #2186 (isolation #419) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:50 pm

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Naomi. Who's scum?
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Post Post #2192 (isolation #420) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:46 pm

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In post 2190, rb wrote:not to mention you're not even providing reads or trying to sort other slots. so bad

can someone go back and check a thing for me? was it HS who interpreted TF as being vig and announced it, or did TF himself drop a vig claim? this is important
It's day 1 and I have my scum reads. I've also have alternative reads in case I'm wrong so that right there isn't true aka a lie/misrep

I dropped the "take one of them out" and based off that picked up I was vig.
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Post Post #2193 (isolation #421) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:47 pm

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In post 2188, rb wrote:
In post 2185, TwoFace wrote:You're certain I'm going to shoot one of my scum reads. Great. That's not confirmation bias either.
it is when your scumreads are like 50 pages old and you aren't even capable of entertaining the idea that you might possibly be wrong
It's day 1 and we have no flips. How about I consider the possibility of being wrong once I have proof that I am wrong.

If it was like day 3 and still clinging to the same reads MAYBE you would have a point but you don't have shit day 1.
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Post Post #2202 (isolation #422) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:13 pm

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In post 2189, rb wrote:oh and especially when the entirety of your scumread is based on some meaningless copper interaction and has nothing to do with me, and you're so convinced of your rightness that you'll shoot one of the best town players in the game

LEL
You missed the part where I quoted a post you made based that was absolutely nonsense. This one
In post 1837, rb wrote:F doesn't put out much content. Lots of people have felt 'off' about the slot, constantly voting and unvoting it - that's a scumtell imo because it's indicative both of partners distancing and/or multiple people just disliking the slot and/or finding it scummy.
First - most people were saying they thought I was town. I don't think hardly anyone said I felt off

Second - constantly voting and unvoting me never actually happened. I got run up solely for PL and never really got serious votes after that except from maybe drone and your slot

Third - if voting and unvoting a slot is suspicious, why isn't your attention on Naomi? She's done at least 2 180s on him. But I don't see you really pushing that angle. I wonder why?


Let's delve into your iso that mort thinks is so good.

First couple of posts claiming people are town based on no reason at all (easy to do if you're scum. Impossible if you've just replaced into a massive game)

- vig chaos was one of your options. What's protown about suggesting a "probably town read" be vig killed?

- woops dat 180 on chaos (casting shade on a cop claim) that's pro town right? No

- fence sitting. Not sure what to do. Better wait and see what the townie do right?

- Drops a toto town read without explaining why (for having a big ego about being awesome, you do a terrible at explaining your reads.

- drone votes tf a bunch (probably the only person to do that, why doesn't he notice that?)

- says my joke post falls outside the realm of town behavior. Like seriously? How can anyone read that as town. He's trying to twist a joke into a scumtell.

I could keep going but if anyone can town read him after all this than town literally has no chance at winning.
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Post Post #2203 (isolation #423) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:14 pm

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In post 2196, rb wrote:you need to start understanding that if you have other reads that you're willing to push and you don't actually express them
I've expressed them multiple times. Please stop trolling
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #424) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:35 pm

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Where I have said my scum reads.

In the 200 post range when I vote copper

Post 372 - I say I also think HS is scum, and if he's scum drone probably is also

478 - reiterate my scum read on copper

552 - wouldn't object to misa. Better than a TB lynch but copper/hs are better

590 - tells buffet he's scum

Reminded about how copper blatantly lied about TB "game avoiding" dispite making 14 pages just a couple hours before in the game. That looks like game avoiding? Lol no

690 - my top reads with reasons

Fast forward

1332 votes my other scum read HS

1350 - said I'm ok with an arc lynch
Talk with arc happens and I'm still talking about HS scum. My buffet read is already well known. Arc becomes a scum read for falsely accusing me of willing to hop on a bunch of wagons.

1670 - give an alternative list of reads if I'm wrong on HS

1729 - this is when I consider mort may be town. Mort said he disagreed with chaos's lynch list but after doing research mort agreed with like 3/4 of them. (Drone was the one he wasn't sure of. But now mort seems sure cause isn't he pushing a drone lynch? Yes he is)

1982 - we should lynch one of RB/HS/drone

I'm sure I could find more examples of me giving reads if I was on a computer.
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Post Post #2211 (isolation #425) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:37 pm

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In post 2204, MortFeld wrote:
In post 2202, TwoFace wrote: Let's delve into your iso that mort thinks is so good.
I will eat a shoe if you can find a quote where I said I think rb's ISO is anything resembling "so good."
Sorry. "Isn't terrible"

I just showed why it was terrible
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Post Post #2217 (isolation #426) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:40 pm

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In post 2208, rb wrote:being unsure about reads isn't a scumtell
But but you said this
In post 2208, rb wrote:constantly voting and unvoting it - that's a scumtell imo be
Sorry You can't have it both ways.
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Post Post #2218 (isolation #427) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:41 pm

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In post 2213, MortFeld wrote:RK was the one I wasn't sure of.
In post 1576, MortFeld wrote:Aside from Road, his current lynch pool looks reasonable, if a little... weak?
Dude pretty sure you were pushing an rk lynch.
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Post Post #2220 (isolation #428) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:42 pm

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1576 - says his list is reasonsbale.

1729 - says he disagrees with his list.

How did that happen?
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #429) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:44 pm

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In post 2219, rb wrote:
In post 2217, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2208, rb wrote:being unsure about reads isn't a scumtell
But but you said this
In post 2208, rb wrote:constantly voting and unvoting it - that's a scumtell imo be
Sorry You can't have it both ways.
reads =/= votes
Naomi has voted and unvoted mort multiple times. According to you that's a scumtell.

Have we heard anything about that? No

Why not? Please explain
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #430) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:46 pm

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In post 2213, MortFeld wrote:RK was the one I wasn't sure of.
In post 1140, MortFeld wrote:Road needs rope. Give their interactions with me an honest read and tell me they aren't Red.
Yeah you were unsure of road. My apolo...

Oh wait. Want to try again?
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Post Post #2228 (isolation #431) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:47 pm

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In post 2225, rb wrote:when MANY people vote and unvote the same slot multiple times and feel 'off' about a slot it's a scumtell

do you see like 7+ ppl all voting and unvoting mort?
Many people didn't vote and unvote me multiple times.

Pretty sure drone and your slot are the only ones to do that.
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #432) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:54 pm

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In post 2227, rb wrote:like holy shit you seriously are being stupid and just clutching at anything you possibly can right now because you're still not understanding that it isn't about a person who votes and unvotes a lot themselves - that's not a scumtell
Yep just confirmed only your slot and drone voted me multiple times. Shocker both are scum reads.

So I'm supposed to believe you made a mistake? Or did you intentionally lie?
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Post Post #2232 (isolation #433) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:57 pm

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In post 1176, MortFeld wrote:I'd agree except Road is Red which means Naomi is either bussing or Green.
Did I misunderstand this one?
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #434) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:58 pm

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In post 1177, MortFeld wrote:So either way I take no issue. Bring on the Road votes.
Or this?

Would you be pushing for a lynch on somebody you're not sure of?
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #435) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:59 pm

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In post 1204, MortFeld wrote:Long post because I want to believe there is any chance HS is Green, and if they are I need to convince them of Road.
You want to convince HS of red? You wouldn't do that if you were unsure would you?
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Post Post #2235 (isolation #436) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:01 pm

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In post 2230, MortFeld wrote:Why are you reaching like this?
Why is pointing out questionable actions and discussing them reaching? Why can't it be scum hunting?

Asking somebody to explain things that are confusing helps understand interactions. Especially later when we have flips.

If you're town you have nothing to worry about
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #437) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:06 pm

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In post 2236, MortFeld wrote:Am I living in a different universe? Where's the lie?
He said multiple people voted and unvoted me multiple times. Only 2 people did.
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Post Post #2240 (isolation #438) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:08 pm

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Sorry he said many not multiple. That post he made was garbage.
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Post Post #2242 (isolation #439) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:15 pm

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In post 2208, rb wrote:that's a scumtell imo because it's indicative both of partners distancing and/or multiple people just disliking the slot and/or finding it scummy.
Let's look at this post with a magnifying glass now.

He's literally saying it's a scumtell because of every possible reason there is to vote somebody? (Well he left off the actual reason why people voted me)


Ugh I get y'all are blinded but this is a horrible post by him
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Post Post #2243 (isolation #440) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:16 pm

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Good night
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #441) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:52 pm

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False promises.

Nobody's going to want to work out RB tomorrow
Nobody's going to consider who I want to lynch today.

If drone flips scum HS is probably scum with him.

Only cause I'm not going to be awake

VOTE: drone

Y'all treat me like shit cause somehow everyone knows my reads are wrong. Well outside of everyone being scum or cheating, nobody but scum and the mod knows if my reads are wrong or not.

Sorry I wasn't given the cheat sheet that says who is and isn't scum. I just see scummy play and vote it.
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #442) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:54 pm

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And whoever is town and voted to PL me, Please blacklist me and stay far away from me as possible
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #443) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:05 pm

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Cause despite what I actually am saying, I know how to play the game. If we mislynch vig doesn't shoot. Vig also doesn't shoot the person the majority of town is saying don't shoot.
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Post Post #2322 (isolation #444) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:06 am

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Chaos and arc. Who'd you target
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #445) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:23 am

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I actually could see that. Want to hear from arc now.
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Post Post #2328 (isolation #446) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:33 am

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Who were you calling scum again?

I'm kinda leaning you being scum personally
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #447) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:45 am

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Naomi - there is no way you can think arc is scum given her role claim and the scum that flipped unless you are cc'ing her.

strong man makes sense with some sort of protective role like doc or jail keeper.
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Post Post #2332 (isolation #448) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:50 am

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lol yeah I agree.

I am glad I was right about drone but I was right for the wrong reason. HS being town kind of shocked me. I was thinking given that flip it was drone/hs/rk
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Post Post #2343 (isolation #449) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:45 am

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In post 2338, Naomi-Tan wrote:what was there Roleclaim?
no way you missed her role claim given these 2 posts


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Post Post #2347 (isolation #450) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:53 am

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In post 2344, Naomi-Tan wrote:Oh I think its about time to claim too. as I think all the roles are out there and if I don't claim its gonna look bad if pressure builds so... Im VT.
this was completely unnecessary
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Post Post #2348 (isolation #451) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:53 am

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In post 2345, Naomi-Tan wrote:Missed and forgot are two very close things
I honestly don't know how you could forget but whatever. not worth arguing about
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Post Post #2350 (isolation #452) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:09 am

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In post 2349, Naomi-Tan wrote:That was the point. If I gained a vote following I think the claim would of made me being miss lynched much higher so preemptive claim to keep those fires somewhere else.
but unless something changes, you aren't being voted today
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Post Post #2355 (isolation #453) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:17 am

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why do you think I shot HS? how do you even know I used my action last night?
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Post Post #2358 (isolation #454) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:29 am

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you don't remember specifically yet you were bragging that most of your reads were correct?

what is up with people's memory in this game?

btw drone voting you and you calling it out doesn't confirm anything to me because bussing and distancing are things. You not voting drone given he was a scum pr stands out to me
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Post Post #2359 (isolation #455) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:30 am

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In post 2357, Naomi-Tan wrote:Well what reason do reds have to NOT shoot a PR
arc was pushing on the fact chaos was lying, if both are legit I can think of a good reason to not kill one of them
scum wasn't worried about me obviously
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #456) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:31 am

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let's just wait and see what arc has to say and then we can move forward.
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Post Post #2368 (isolation #457) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:37 am

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In post 2364, MortFeld wrote:This means that Chaos was correct, and Toto is scum.
if toto was jk'd, chaos could not get a result

so toto/chaos
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Post Post #2380 (isolation #458) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:44 am

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In post 2371, ArcAngel9 wrote:Who did you shoot last night?
HS

which means that mafia's kill failed. I seriously doubt mafia was trying to kill toto so you probably stopped his kill attempt.

chaos/toto
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Post Post #2387 (isolation #459) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:47 am

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vote: chaos
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #460) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:47 am

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In post 2386, Shadow_step wrote:How did that cop claim go un fucking CCed then?
cause you don't cc day 1
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Post Post #2396 (isolation #461) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:50 am

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In post 2389, ArcAngel9 wrote:And can you all agree that I was right yesterday. All thought drama i had to go through to convince all of you. what a pain
I still don't think there was 100% chance you were right though. As explained, day 1 is not the day to lynch a claimed cop. the cop claim will sort itself out eventually.

fast forward to day 2

the cop claim has sorted itself out

had you been wrong though and lynched chaos and flipped town, town would be screwed.


plus look what happened, we lynched another scum and that hammer got you to jk the 3rd scum. game over
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Post Post #2399 (isolation #462) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:50 am

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In post 2394, ArcAngel9 wrote:two down and one to go.

Let's focus on the last scum.
all 3 scum are caught. nobody else to focus on
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Post Post #2401 (isolation #463) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:51 am

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In post 2398, ChaosOmega wrote:Yeah, JK'ing Toto doesn't roleblock me from targeting them, what the fuck.
pretty sure it does
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Post Post #2407 (isolation #464) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:53 am

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In post 2401, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2398, ChaosOmega wrote:Yeah, JK'ing Toto doesn't roleblock me from targeting them, what the fuck.
pretty sure it does
actually I stand corrected
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Post Post #2408 (isolation #465) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:53 am

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vote: toto
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Post Post #2411 (isolation #466) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:54 am

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looking at the wiki, the role that stops a jk'd target from being investigated is a variant known as alien which is not normal.

toto is who we lynch today
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Post Post #2416 (isolation #467) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:56 am

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In post 2410, ArcAngel9 wrote:Guys - Read this. Its explained here
try reading the wiki which is more updated. chaos can still be legit.

lynch toto today
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Post Post #2417 (isolation #468) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:57 am

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In post 2415, ArcAngel9 wrote:Show where in wiki it says that. WIKI clearly says that "Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night."
learn to read

Variations

Some Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night.
This variant is also known as Alien.
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Post Post #2419 (isolation #469) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:58 am

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also

Normal Guidelines

A Jailkeeper that simultaneously blocks and protects their target is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.
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Post Post #2423 (isolation #470) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:59 am

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In post 2421, ArcAngel9 wrote:GUYS STOP TALKING
YOU NEED TO STOP TALKING. YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG, WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
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Post Post #2426 (isolation #471) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:00 am

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In post 2422, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2417, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2415, ArcAngel9 wrote:Show where in wiki it says that. WIKI clearly says that "Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night."
learn to read

Variations

Some Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night.
This variant is also known as Alien.

LEARN TO READ FULL PAGE...


Normal Guidelines

A Jailkeeper that simultaneously blocks and protects their target is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.
I did, and this proves YOU are wrong. sorry arc
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Post Post #2430 (isolation #472) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:02 am

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In post 2419, TwoFace wrote:Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.
Chaos wasn't blocked, toto was.

show me where it says the blocked person can't be investigated by somebody else and that somebody else can't get a result with regards to normal guidelines.

i'll wait cause I don't think you can.

p.edit - yes toto get's lynched today.
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #473) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:04 am

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In post 2433, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Could have sworn it prevents targeting but I guess that's considered too broken for normal games.
yeah I did as well
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Post Post #2437 (isolation #474) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:05 am

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In post 2434, ArcAngel9 wrote:I read my role pm once again. Let me paraphrase it as I am not allowed to copy and paste it.

Once per night I can target a player to protect them, the target player will not know that they were protected and I will not know who has targetted them.

AND

I also block my target, Causing any attempted actions fail for the current night phase. So if toto was targetted by Chaos, he would have received a message saying, BLOCKED.
reading isn't your strong suit
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Post Post #2442 (isolation #475) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:06 am

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In post 2439, ArcAngel9 wrote:both incoming and outgoing.
you're role pm says incoming and outcoming?
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Post Post #2444 (isolation #476) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:07 am

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In post 2412, Shadow_step wrote:
@MOD, will an INVESTIGATIVE attempt on a JK target fail, or not.
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Post Post #2446 (isolation #477) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:07 am

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In post 2443, keyenpeydee wrote:
I'm not saying nor denying the presence of Jailkeeper in this game, But as far as I know, Jailkeeper PROTECTS the person but Roleblocks it. Thus, the Targeted player is being protected and roleblocked, Not the one who [other player] targets it.
Thank you

so sorry Arc, chaos could still be legit


Edited to contain the edited information I'm saying - Mod
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Post Post #2449 (isolation #478) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:09 am

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In post 2448, ArcAngel9 wrote:I think we should check with someone who can clear this out. I am on town minds with this.
the mod just said you're wrong

who do you want to appeal to next?
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Post Post #2454 (isolation #479) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:11 am

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if the mod said it one way, that means he processed the night actions the same way.

right or wrong, chaos is probably legit
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Post Post #2455 (isolation #480) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:11 am

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In post 2452, ArcAngel9 wrote:Thank you KEY

So toto is scum.


VOTE: Toto

Who is the last scum?
lol no "i'm sorry for being an ass" or something similar? :facepalm:
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #481) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:12 am

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unvote


want to find out 3rd scum if possible. leaving him at L-1 is risky
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #482) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:14 am

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In post 2457, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2450, ChaosOmega wrote:Lol, the mod said it doesn't. The mod's word isn't good enough for you?
this still doesn't clear you as town.

You probably throwing your scum mate under the bus to prove your cop claim, so that i won't jail you. I will jail tonight no matter what. and TF shoots nobody tonight. this will clear you or we got the last scum.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

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Post Post #2470 (isolation #483) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:17 am

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In post 2461, ArcAngel9 wrote:You saying this may be the biggest joke of this decade. If you read my role pm you would know where I am coming from.

But this still doesn't clear Chaos yet. He could still be scum.
hey i may be wrong about my scum reads and i'll own up to that but you were proved wrong multiple times and even attempted to twist the wiki to match your viewpoint and then you just drop it? :lol:
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Post Post #2471 (isolation #484) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:17 am

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In post 2468, ArcAngel9 wrote:you don't believe the possibility that Chaos could still be scum?
less than 10% possibility given what we know. imo
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #485) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:18 am

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In post 2464, ArcAngel9 wrote:No. Nero is town
based on what exactly?
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Post Post #2482 (isolation #486) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:25 am

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idk my gut says it's RK
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Post Post #2483 (isolation #487) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:25 am

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I don't think it is mort
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Post Post #2486 (isolation #488) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:27 am

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no mass claim on day 2
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Post Post #2489 (isolation #489) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:28 am

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the only claim we need is toto's claim
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Post Post #2491 (isolation #490) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:29 am

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In post 2487, ArcAngel9 wrote:GO MASS CLAIM TODAY. IT HELPS TO SPECULATE THE SETUP and nails down the options on scum hunting
oh well when you put it in all caps let me reconsider....


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Post Post #2494 (isolation #491) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:30 am

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In post 2492, MortFeld wrote:I don't see why the massclaim has to be today. If it's a good idea, it is just as valuable tomorrow since we're lynching scum today.
exactly
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Post Post #2497 (isolation #492) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:34 am

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if there was going to be a cc, today is when it would happen.

I think everyone else has chimed in so if chaos is faking, the real PR would have CC'd by now.

the fact that nobody has cc'd leans toward chaos is legit and mass claim is a waste of time.
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #493) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:35 am

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the only thing that doesn't sit with me was that talk about a framer or something. who was that and what the heck was that all about?
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Post Post #2502 (isolation #494) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:36 am

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In post 2499, Naomi-Tan wrote:Did I forget anyone who has claimed tf?
I have no clue, wasn't paying close attention to all the vt claims
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Post Post #2509 (isolation #495) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:42 am

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In post 2505, ArcAngel9 wrote:I still don't believe Chaos claim. why did Chaos targets Toto last night instead of me if he is really the COP?
did you really just ask this? :facepalm:

the moment that scum role flipped, your role became confirmed town
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Post Post #2515 (isolation #496) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:49 am

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In post 2512, Toto wrote:Im obviously being framed here. Not sure why Chaos would trade like that me.

When I flip VT shoot chaos
who's your top 2 scum reads

Chaos and ?
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Post Post #2519 (isolation #497) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:51 am

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happy scum day btw mort
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Post Post #2520 (isolation #498) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:51 am

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In post 2518, Naomi-Tan wrote:didn't wobb claim VT?
think rb did
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Post Post #2524 (isolation #499) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:53 am

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In post 2521, MortFeld wrote:
In post 2519, TwoFace wrote:happy scum day btw mort
What does this mean?
you have been on site 1 year today. that is why you have cake
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Post Post #2532 (isolation #500) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:58 am

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In post 2529, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Mort:
Oh yeah for sure. 90+ pages Day 1!

Hoopla has a cake by her avi. I want one!
put your birthday as today and you can get one :lol:
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #501) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:14 am

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In post 2542, Shadow_step wrote:Seriously? Lol
Do you think I would have put two of my buddies and lead the lynch on them day 1 while derailing the HS wagon?
who's lynch did you lead day 1? certainly not drone cause you joined that wagon late if i recall correctly
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Post Post #2550 (isolation #502) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:16 am

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I think RK is last scum
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Post Post #2551 (isolation #503) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:16 am

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or maybe naomi
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Post Post #2560 (isolation #504) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:37 am

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nero I don't think ever mentions toto and barely mentions drone.

this is what makes games so hard, when players don't interact with people and such. If nero is town, you certainly can't tell from his iso
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Post Post #3196 (isolation #505) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:12 am

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Tried to pm you. Pretty sure only 4 people voted not 5
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Post Post #3198 (isolation #506) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:15 am

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It doesn't matter anymore. Nero would have been lynched anyway
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Post Post #3218 (isolation #507) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:06 pm

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My favorite part of the game was when arc was accusing of others of acting like a child while acting like one herself. Also accusing of people of not reading when also not reading herslef.

This was like a roller coaster of emotions
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Post Post #3219 (isolation #508) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:07 pm

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In post 3217, Shadow_step wrote:Giving arc the scum MVP award
I'll 2nd that nomination. She played the best out of any of the scums
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Post Post #3220 (isolation #509) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:08 pm

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3rd favorite was when she said her role pm disagreed with the mod when the role pm was posted in the dead thread and clearly didn't
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Post Post #3222 (isolation #510) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:12 pm

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Damn. Wel you can read all the fun
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Post Post #3246 (isolation #511) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:20 pm

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Balance wise he was confirmed. I don't expect newer players to get that but arc was smart enough. She was so blinded though.

Scum nk to frame somebody almost never works.
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Post Post #3261 (isolation #512) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:44 am

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In post 3257, Shadow_step wrote:Nah. I meant about the players you mentioned.
Don't blame him for not wanting to play with me
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Post Post #3268 (isolation #513) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:23 am

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Once scum flipped I went through everyone and looked at who made sense as a partner. Think I had it down to Nero or HS. Their interactions seemed like buddies to me.
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Post Post #3295 (isolation #514) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:49 am

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In post 3259, keyenpeydee wrote:Can we all play together?
Even me?
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #515) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:57 am

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Ideally I'd rather just sit back and do nothing day 1 and let others do stuff. Day 1 sucks
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Post Post #3300 (isolation #516) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:36 am

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In post 3298, Naomi-Tan wrote:I find D1 the most telling day. It gives me the most information out of all the days as reds dunno who are weaker players and players are trying to get a grip on each other the longer D1 goes the easier I find it over all.
Yes it's good for info but sometimes it's hard to differentiate scummy town vs scummy scum v towny town v towny scum lol
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #517) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:29 am

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In post 3301, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 3295, TwoFace wrote:
In post 3259, keyenpeydee wrote:Can we all play together?
Even me?
Idk

But you'll be bullying me so..

VOTE: 2F
If we all play together I won't do shit. Ok?
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Post Post #3326 (isolation #518) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:12 am

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In post 3320, ArcAngel9 wrote:The amount of dumbness
seriously, 99% of the dumbness in this thread came from you

Spoiler:
In post 1748, ArcAngel9 wrote:This is 100% false claim. I bet all my experience from mafiascum to be sure that Chaos is now almost confirmed scum to me.

A cop never claims, if he really had been cop, he would have taken time to defend himself. He played bad, a very bad scum play and now he is only option to save himself till day 2 is cop claim.

He wants us to leave him today to investigate TF, we dont know how true TF claim is and he is just playing around and we should lynch him without hesitation

CHAOS IS SCUM. And pretty much confirmed one for me.

if i can vote again, here you go

VOTE: Chaos
In post 1754, ArcAngel9 wrote:Yes and you're one who is being lying the game. You're scum. period.
In post 1755, ArcAngel9 wrote:Because he is scum and he just faked his claim
In post 1760, ArcAngel9 wrote:Seriously, if people not going to lynch you today i am quitting this noob game. I mean it.
Which you didn't do btw. It's not too late for you to quit the site.
In post 1764, ArcAngel9 wrote:if Chaos flip town. I resign mafiascum. I bet my experience on my read.
In post 1777, ArcAngel9 wrote:This is exactly what he wants. and exactly what scum wants. They know that townies won't dare to lynch PR claims on day 1 and they want benefit out of it.

Don't fall for this.
In post 1780, ArcAngel9 wrote:You're buying the street garbage that scum is selling it you. When you go home, you wont stars in it. you will see how end up losing your bet on that.
In post 1976, ArcAngel9 wrote:HE IS CONFIRMED SCUM.
In post 2001, ArcAngel9 wrote:THERE IS SO WAY WE HAVE COP, JAILKEEPER AND VIG.

ENJOY NOOB TOWNIES.
Funny, That is EXACTLY what we had...
In post 2030, ArcAngel9 wrote:EITHER YOU'RE REALLY PESSIMISTIC OR YOU'RE SCUM WITH CHAOS


I AM REPEATING THIS 100TH TIME. ITS NOT HIS CLAIM ITS THE WAY HE CLAIMED. GET THIS FOR THE LAST TIME. HE ONLY CLAIMED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO DEFEND HIMSELF.
In post 2031, ArcAngel9 wrote:CHAOS IS SCUM. I DON'T WHAT ELSE I CAN DO TO CONVINCE ALL OF YOU.

THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS THAT ADD UP TO CONFIRM HIM AS SCUM. STILL DEBATING ABOUT HIS LYNCH IS HEIGHTS.
In post 2066, ArcAngel9 wrote:Do you even know how to play this game. How is chaos is town? what is that he did look town to you?
Do you?
In post 2082, ArcAngel9 wrote:Players like TF, Shadow who continue to act like 4-year-old kids
POT MEET KETTLE
In post 2097, ArcAngel9 wrote:Mafia will kill me tonight unless a doc protects me.

Chaos is scum, we should lynch him

I will jail keep TF tonight for sure.
Cop/jk/vig doesn't make sense but jk/doc/vig does? :facepalm:
In post 2118, ArcAngel9 wrote:OMG why this is happening. Lynch Chaos!!!
In post 2119, ArcAngel9 wrote:I am 200% sure that Chaos is scum and we are not lynching the obvious scum means doom to the town
In post 2121, ArcAngel9 wrote:No. Chaos is scum. When i hit scum why i have to gamble?
This town is being idiot. thats all i can say
In post 2135, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2133, MortFeld wrote:Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

If we decide to mislynch. Why not lynch me instead? I don't know if Drone is scum and my vote either remains on confirmed scum or I ll rather vote myself
In post 2150, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2147, Naomi-Tan wrote:What makes you think your so high and mighty that the reds would single you out above the rest of town.
Talking about Village idiots. Here is one. I am done empathizing with players like these.
In post 2153, ArcAngel9 wrote:I know i am not wrong. I am not only saying this i have a gut or hunch. I am speaking out of my experience
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
In post 2156, ArcAngel9 wrote:Chaos is faking it 200%
In post 2363, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2324, ChaosOmega wrote:I investigated Toto. They're scum.

VOTE: Toto

LIAR LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE.

I JAILED TOTO LAST NIGHT. NOW PLEASE FOLLOW ME TO LYNCH THE 100% CONFIRMED SCUM.

VOTE: ChaosOmega
In post 2464, ArcAngel9 wrote:Nero is town
In post 2629, ArcAngel9 wrote:Nero may be a lousy player but i guess he is not our last scum.
In post 2633, ArcAngel9 wrote:I don't think Nero is scum. Period.

And your logic is completely delusiona
In post 3173, ArcAngel9 wrote:Here is the setup that doesn't look so bad to me.

1 Town Jail Keeper
1 Shot Town VIG
8 VT's

2 Mafia Goon
1 shot Mafia Strongman

1 shot Mafia Strongman is the counter for 2 shot Town VIG. I have run setups something very similar.
You have not run any normal games like this at all actually.



This one is inside the spoiler already but I want to leave it out also
In post 1764, ArcAngel9 wrote:if Chaos flip town. I resign mafiascum. I bet my experience on my read.
Let's see if you are a woman of your word or not. Are you going to resign?
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Post Post #3329 (isolation #519) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:17 am

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In post 3326, TwoFace wrote:Let's see if you are a woman of your word or not. Are you going to resign?
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Post Post #3332 (isolation #520) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:20 am

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In post 3327, ArcAngel9 wrote:Blame Chaos for his claim that was bad town play
after reading that wall of quotes I just made from you. You pretty much are in no position to judge what is and isn't good play.

Did chaos play like shit day 1? absolutely

do most PRs play like shit day 1? yes they do

even after the mod confirmed that chaos could get a result on somebody you j/k'd, you still tried to argue the mod was wrong. That's taking stupid to a whole fucking new level.
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Post Post #3335 (isolation #521) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:21 am

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In post 3330, ArcAngel9 wrote:Didn't you say you want interact with me. Why are you doing it now?
Jesus christ you can't even read properly

"If you could avoid replacing into any game I am in or refrain from /inning to games I am already /inned to play I would appreciate it. "

is what i said
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Post Post #3336 (isolation #522) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:22 am

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In post 3333, ArcAngel9 wrote:I would have quit if i hadn't added value.
you didn't add value the entire game. town had to fight you just to prevent the loss.
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Post Post #3342 (isolation #523) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:25 am

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if you join any game I am in, I will consider it harrassment/stalking
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Post Post #3343 (isolation #524) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:25 am

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In post 3341, Human Sequencer wrote:>i dont care what you think!
>which is why i'm still arguing about it on the internet!
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Post Post #3346 (isolation #525) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:30 am

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In post 3340, ArcAngel9 wrote:Says by someone who shot someone who looked very town to everyone. What a joke!!
HS as you even said added no value. When we got a scum flip i looked at interactions and him not being on the wagon and basically having no interactions with drone led me to believe that he could be scum.

so yeah I made a mistake.

but hey I was at least smart enough to prevent town from lynching chaos. I even dug up evidence to support that chaos/you could exsist and not only did you choose to ignore it when I originally posted it. You chose to ignore it when there was 1 scum left and everyone had basically claimed and you still tried to argue the setup did not support chaos being town.


THAT IS THE FUCKING JOKE.

I had a bad game, sure. You fucking sucked so bad that town had to rally to prevent you from losing the game. do you understand that?

TOWN HAD TO STOP YOU FROM LOSING THE GAME.
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Post Post #3349 (isolation #526) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:50 am

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In post 3348, ArcAngel9 wrote:You scream as loud as you can but it doesn't change the fact that I caught scum not you.
so just going to take credit and none to chaos who got the actual guilty? :lol:

I mean technically i was calling drone scum day 1 and drone flipped scum. I was also on that lynch so I caught scum also.

I also had a SR on Nero after the drone flip, where as you had a tr on him. I was 50/50 shooting him or HS.


so yeah you're a lunatic who basically was game throwing
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Post Post #3358 (isolation #527) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:16 am

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I don't think I've lost yet either.
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Post Post #3368 (isolation #528) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:24 am

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Lord knows I am

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