Best part is SS made a similar comment: that may have been ammo you cound have used!In post 110, Prism wrote:First Gamma now Zoronos. Why does everyone lynchable have to be a PR? I want to scream.
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I included the ascetic in the lynchpool.
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haha get rekt scumIn post 141, Prism wrote:I might finish my long-promised ISO on Dierfire early because god knows we can't afford Zoronos giving town another clear. I can handle all of Dier/PP/Grendel but I really,reallydon't want to go against nn30 at any point. I've gone too far in in my townread on him.
Shadow is going to have to be one of the mislynches if you go down today.<Embrace The Void>
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Mass claim wasn't a bad idea it just didn't get us the results we wanted.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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@Shadow - not sure you're going to see the dead thread again.
The reason it was so difficult to come around on your slot was precisely because of how you treated me during the game.
I can take a beating in an argument. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that your go to move was to verbally abuse me for not seeing things the way you see them. That'snevergoing to be a way to persuade somebody. Your replace out was the best thing you could have done for town as it allowed level-headed discussion to occur once more.-
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Persuading people is my weakness. I can't seem to do that.
@nn how I treat you shouldn't factor into how you read me(ideally).
@Prism it shouldn't bother you how I treat other players.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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Holy shit.
That was an intense 3 way to watch.
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Hurrah, we won! I'm fairly impressed with nn30 and BlackVoid pulling through in LYLO there. I don't know if I'm just bad at this or what, but it was far from clear to me that Prism was Mafia at the time of my death. Maybe the protracted LYLO helped, but I probably would have lost in a similar position.
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Well done, and thanks for carrying me to victory!
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Reading through the Mafia PT, I'm also really impressed with how much thought and planning went into the Mafia team's game. From the night actions to the interactions among Mafia players by day, everything was considered in great detail.
@boring
You sounded scared of me in the Mafia PT, which is flattering but probably unwarranted! I'm usually rather easy to lynch because Town players don't like my style (I sent the Mod a note early D2 that I was expecting to be lynched D3 or D4 because even players who read me as Town aren't usually interested in working to fight my lynch).
(Also reading back my ISO before Gamma Emerald claimed is a bad experience. I was lucky this game in that my primary suspicions had roles and died by night, so my reads--bad as they were--are actuallyartificially betterthan they would have been otherwise)
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I'm sorry to hear about your difficulties. I hope that things get better for you. Whatever you think of your own play, you certainly deceived me.
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Were all human and emotions are a thing and I'm not upset with you at all about the rage I do think you were being legit but please be happy with yourself you played great ^_^In post 3432, Prism wrote:Also, to Maria and PP who were of the opinion that I should have really replaced out given my anger-it was one outburst, and I immediately calmed down 30 minutes later after I went for a walk. I was being immature and irrational, and I didn't want to let 30 minutes of my temper flaring get in the way of literally months of meticulous planning and hard work. It also, again, would have sucked for Podoboq to do a replacement for me-we got incredibly lucky that BV was in the waiting.
Yeah, I felt horrible when I got townread for it, and hinted the best I could that it waspossiblefor me to do it as scum because of it. It's not how I would have wanted to win at all. It's important to keep in mind here that I was not the one assigning an alignment read to it or trying to milk it-there was no rule statingPrism will only try to replace out as townthat I was trying to subvert. That was everyone else's speculation as to what I would and wouldn't do as scum, and guessing incorrectly. The only things I did were 1. Get mad enough to want to replace out to begin with 2. Not want to let a 20/30 minute emotional outburst ruin something I sunk months into.
P-Edit: Yep, sometimes people notice, sometimes they don't-and that's just the way it goes, I needed to find better ways to draw attention to it, and numerous other things, without saying it myself. I won't reveal all my secrets this game because they're reusable later, but that was one.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I'm very satisfied with my play up through the end of Day 5, I had time struggles still but I could make it work. I really put everything I had into it and am proud as fuck of it. I'm purely talking about my Day 6 when I talk about how disappointed I am-it is literally the worst I have ever played as mafia in the past 3/4 years, and it's obviously my own fault. I appreciate the attempts to console me but it's just kind of how I am-I'll be okay, this attitude is just how I choose to approach my play and improve. It was a new situation for me, hitting at the most crucial moment, and I collapsed. I've never played forum mafia, a form where you don't dedicate 100% attention through to the end, I didn't anticipate something like a worst case scenario like that interfering with so much. In the future, if I ever play again, now I know and will do better. I view it as a learning experience, and my disappointment is just a vehicle for that.
I'm really happy to see all the support for my play, even by spectators and people who weren't even on my team. It's really humbling, so thank you. I'll try to do even better next time, and play to the level that I know I can, if there is one.
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Alright, I've requested that the setup review thread be made public, so you can see my thought process on the setup in more detail. I'll post it here when it's made public.
I don't think my thoughts are necessarily any more valuable than the players'. In fact, I think there's a good argument that you all are more qualified to talk about the game, since you actually experienced its twists and turns organically, as they were intended to be experienced. My position is to provide the structure for the players to make the game their own, so I feel like my opinions are not all that important. That said, boring has asked, so here's some final thoughts. In hindsight, these are the things I will remember most about the game.
Spoiler: setup nonsense
Spoiler: play
Spoiler: other stuff
I will likely be running another game soon. Still not entirely sure what it will be, but I have a few ideas. Probably going to queue up today. If anybody would be interested in participating in my next game, send me a PM, and I'll make sure you're pre-inned or I'll send you a message when the game enters sign-ups.eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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Why was that post edited. You know which I guess.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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I'm pretty sure I know what you're asking about. Give me a few minutes to confirm that I can discuss it now.In post 3467, Shadow_step wrote:Why was that post edited. You know which I guess.eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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Updated.
In post 3056, nn30 wrote:This feels a little bit too easy, but I think it's just Dier here.
VOTE: dierfire
His [post]2955[/vote] doesn't make a whole lot of consistent sense. His spoiler tag, where he discusses myself and Prism, mentions a number of times that I'm unlikely to be mafia. Yet his summary has me in his 2nd most likely scum team.
I posted a case on him a while back which his response was largely 'yeah, that's a thing.'
My only trepidation here is that it just feelstooeasy.
BlackVoid has felt towny since subbing in. When LUV was flailing for a counter-wagon he put a vote on Shadow_Step (and also chose to scum read Shadow_Step on D1 based on my admittadly thin reasonings). These make me think BV is town now.
Implosion is conf!town. So there goes that.
Moderator note: A paragraph in this post has been redacted for breaking site rules. No further action will be taken. I cannot go into further detail at this time.
EDIT: Now that both games have completed, I can explain further. The paragraph is now at the bottom of this post. It refers to an ongoing game, one which nn30 had replaced into. Players in that game could use his post here to town read him, as only town would need to "peg scum." It's a town slip for a different game. This is why referring to ongoing games is illegal, no matter how minor you think it is.
Spoiler:eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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Re: calling the game bastard. I was honestly convinced that Eager was Mafia was was fking ascetic so he isn't bothered at night. It was because how common it has become for town to claim their negative utilities and eager thought he could get a lot of town credit early for it.
Calling the game bastard was strategic so that I could get Eager lynched. I didn't actually think the game was bastard. Two of the same roles being town is really really bad though and I didn't expect them in a mini normal. Cause they can lead to back to back mislynches.
Imagine Eager and I both making it to day 3 and neither of us had claimed ascetic. Under l-1 he claims ascetic. I CC him, he flips gown I get lynched next.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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Nice spot. I'd have never seen this as a mod.In post 3469, podoboq wrote:Updated.
In post 3056, nn30 wrote:This feels a little bit too easy, but I think it's just Dier here.
VOTE: dierfire
His [post]2955[/vote] doesn't make a whole lot of consistent sense. His spoiler tag, where he discusses myself and Prism, mentions a number of times that I'm unlikely to be mafia. Yet his summary has me in his 2nd most likely scum team.
I posted a case on him a while back which his response was largely 'yeah, that's a thing.'
My only trepidation here is that it just feelstooeasy.
BlackVoid has felt towny since subbing in. When LUV was flailing for a counter-wagon he put a vote on Shadow_Step (and also chose to scum read Shadow_Step on D1 based on my admittadly thin reasonings). These make me think BV is town now.
Implosion is conf!town. So there goes that.
Moderator note: A paragraph in this post has been redacted for breaking site rules. No further action will be taken. I cannot go into further detail at this time.
EDIT: Now that both games have completed, I can explain further. The paragraph is now at the bottom of this post. It refers to an ongoing game, one which nn30 had replaced into. Players in that game could use his post here to town read him, as only town would need to "peg scum." It's a town slip for a different game. This is why referring to ongoing games is illegal, no matter how minor you think it is.
Spoiler:ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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Stay tuned for the setup review, where people much more experienced than either of us have this conversation and come to a very different conclusion.In post 3470, Shadow_step wrote:Two of the same roles being town is really really bad though and I didn't expect them in a mini normal. Cause they can lead to back to back mislynches.
Imagine Eager and I both making it to day 3 and neither of us had claimed ascetic. Under l-1 he claims ascetic. I CC him, he flips gown I get lynched next.eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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Yep, would like to read it.
In other news my mini normal will soon be in the sign up phase. Get hyped.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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I'm a little sad I wasn't mentioned more in the scum pt.
I guess I was never a real threat to scum this game. The only scum I had for sure was LUV, and it was the one scum read I never really pushed!
I did suspect Prism of being a dirty scum busser throughout much of D3, but I never really got around to elaborating on that thought. Outside of that I thought that Prism used lots of slimy rhetoric that... bothered me, but I didn't know weather I wanted to call him scum for it, or if I was just annoyed by that play style.
I had a few suspensions of boring, but I always dismissed them as they came.
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