Newbie 1765 | URW | Endgame

[Superhans]

UNVOTE: TheDominator37

May I have a reason with that unvote?

I voted TheDominator37 because the game had started and there was no solid evidence to base a lynching.

I actually voted TheDominator37 just because he had happened to have voted for himself that I joked was a slightly scummy thing to do.

I'm unvoting because I'm fairly sure I'll be voting more constructively, (I have my eyes on ConnorJC and LQ). I also will be happy to focus on any lurkers (although will probably wait a bit longer before considering the Lurker Wagon).

[Rautherdir]

Good, you're paying attention!

[Nachomamma8]

RVS (the opening stage) is typically characterized by voting people for silly reasons. Sometimes I participate, sometimes I don't, but voting early game for a silly reason is as alignment-neutral as alignment-neutral gets.

It's okay to hunt multiple lurkers at once but if one deserves suspicion more than the other two then it seems smarter to combine efforts on one.

[Rautherdir]

Oh, okay. VOTE: Lovesick

[Superhans]

VOTE: Lovesick

Lovesick, I'll be super happy to unvote on the condition that you read through all the comments posted so far tell us your opinions on scum/town reads. Cheers

[LicketyQuickety]

LicketyQuickety I have asked you two questions:

1) What does IC mean. (Answered by Nachomma8 (thanks btw))

2) What do you mean with the cop thing.

Instead of slapping a scum read on me, can you at least my 2nd question?

See #42.

I kinda wanted Lickety to respond, thanks ConnorJC. Lickety, perhaps you want to add more to you answer that it was a reaction. What have you observed from this reaction test?

I've seen a few people talk about it. I saw what looked like you fishing for info as well as Connor making a judgement call strait away. My intention was true as well as a reaction test. I wanted to get a conversation started and see who reacted and how.

I think he was looking for someone to point out the fact that he looks like he has knowledge of the setup, but maybe I'm wrong.

There's no reason to point this out before LQ has a chance to respond; Superhaus was probably directing that question at LQ in order to get a better read on him, which he can't do as effectively if you're providing all of LQ's answers for him.

Could be, likely actually, but as what alignment is what I think is more interesting.

So, are you saying LQ is scum?

Also, Mafia Roleblocker would know one of two different sets of power roles could be in play. If LQ is a Mafia Roleblocker than they are finding out which is valid.

Either LQ is scum, or your premise that his information is real is a false premise because the only motivation that makes sense for someone with information is that he's attempting to narrow down the setup, which to me seems like a pretty big risk for the possibility of a tiny gain. I think that he was probably bullshitting with the cop stuff.

What makes you think I was BS with the cop thing? I did it to generate content as well as making a true statement (if the is a cop and its not you) as well as a reaction test. Tell me what is "BS" about that?

LicketyQuickety I have asked you two questions:

1) What does IC mean. (Answered by Nachomma8 (thanks btw))

2) What do you mean with the cop thing.

Instead of slapping a scum read on me, can you at least my 2nd question?

See #42.

I kinda wanted Lickety to respond, thanks ConnorJC. Lickety, perhaps you want to add more to you answer that it was a reaction. What have you observed from this reaction test?

I think he was looking for someone to point out the fact that he looks like he has knowledge of the setup, but maybe I'm wrong.

Again, I would like to point out that although I appreciate your response, I was really hoping I could get a response from Lickety for this one.

In addition to the first question, I've a new question for LicketyQuickety:

You imply frequently that you have alternative ways of playing the game and making reads. This is demonstrated by the posts:

Yes, well, I don't read people in a traditional way.

I don't want the responsibility of having to give "correct" theory. Reason for this is I tend to think outside the box a bit.

And in your blurb thing you've written that "As someone with a creative pattern, you tend to seek unique accomplishments and innovative solutions. On the surface, you may seem to have a contradictory nature. ~Taken from my results regarding motivation from DISC personality test."

What do you think makes your game theory different to traditional game theory?
Also what are you non-traditional reads?

Nothing in particular, I just use unconventional methods, judging what someone says and interpreting it in a way that is not the norm. I am very unconventional that way.
I think I have given the reads I have at this time. But I'll expand:

Connor is a Town read for jumping the gun and trying to get result before anything is conclusive. You are a (slight [which you misinterpreted]) Scum read for fishing for info in a way that is not clearly town mindset. You are smart which is why I am saying this.

UNVOTE: TheDominator37

May I have a reason with that unvote?

I voted TheDominator37 because the game had started and there was no solid evidence to base a lynching.

I actually voted TheDominator37 just because he had happened to have voted for himself that I joked was a slightly scummy thing to do.

I'm unvoting because I'm fairly sure I'll be voting more constructively, (I have my eyes on ConnorJC and LQ). I also will be happy to focus on any lurkers (although will probably wait a bit longer before considering the Lurker Wagon).

VOTE: Lovesick

Lovesick, I'll be super happy to unvote on the condition that you read through all the comments posted so far tell us your opinions on scum/town reads. Cheers

That's a fast change mate, mind explaining?

[ConnorJC]

UNVOTE: TheDominator37

May I have a reason with that unvote?

I voted TheDominator37 because the game had started and there was no solid evidence to base a lynching.

I actually voted TheDominator37 just because he had happened to have voted for himself that I joked was a slightly scummy thing to do.

I'm unvoting because I'm fairly sure I'll be voting more constructively, (I have my eyes on ConnorJC and LQ). I also will be happy to focus on any lurkers (although will probably wait a bit longer before considering the Lurker Wagon).

Would you mind elaborating on your suspicion of me and LQ?

VOTE: Lovesick

Lovesick, I'll be super happy to unvote on the condition that you read through all the comments posted so far tell us your opinions on scum/town reads. Cheers

This is kinda scummy in my opinion. If you think that his lurking is scum then why would suddenly catching up change your mind?

I've seen a few people talk about it. I saw what looked like you fishing for info as well as Connor making a judgement call strait away. My intention was true as well as a reaction test. I wanted to get a conversation started and see who reacted and how.

Let me clarify here, as people are misinterpreting my post. I'm trying to focus on what I have in front of me, right now. Apparently people think I'm way more sure on who's town/scum than I actually am.

What makes you think I was BS with the cop thing? I did it to generate content as well as making a true statement (if the is a cop and its not you) as well as a reaction test. Tell me what is "BS" about that?

It seems like you're fairly sure there's a cop. Additionally, why would you want a cop to investigate Nachomamma8 if there is one? It almost looks like you're trying to lead a cop into wasting his night action if there is one.

Nothing in particular, I just use unconventional methods, judging what someone says and interpreting it in a way that is not the norm. I am very unconventional that way.
I think I have given the reads I have at this time. But I'll expand:

Connor is a Town read for jumping the gun and trying to get result before anything is conclusive. You are a (slight [which you misinterpreted]) Scum read for fishing for info in a way that is not clearly town mindset. You are smart which is why I am saying this.

Why would you town read me for jumping the gun? That's a scum thing, is it not?

[LicketyQuickety]

IDK if there is a cop or not. I left out the

if there is a cop

on purpose.

[LicketyQuickety]

[toblerone187]

Just clarifying in case what he meant to say was slightly off from what he said

No I said what I meant to say

[TheDominator37]

The goal for day one is to create conversation. A self-vote doesn't really have the ability to do that. Which is why it's considered scummy to vote for yourself.

It seems to be working rn

[TheDominator37]

VOTE: superhans

Lickety seems very noob town to me.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: superhans

Lickety seems very noob town to me.

Well, I have been listening to YellaWolf lately, so there may be some truth to that.

[Lovesick]

What's the cause of this bandwagon on me again? Inactivity? That's a bit unfair if you ask me considering i was asleep during all of the activity. (I wont be quoting posts because my only available source of playing this is my phone so I don't know how to format my posts with quotations on this particular forum)

Nachos, to answer your post where you had replied to me, it was simply a post of acknowledgement that we had started as I was out of town and I didn't have the time in my day to make a more decent reply than give (Whoever had asked about ICs) a brief explanation and an opinion/thought - not very contributive but it's the least i could do.

Now i wont continue with the excuses as the bottom line is that it was very inconvenient of the time the game started and when the activity had spiked up. So Nachos, how is it a good idea to start hunting for lurkers when 24 hours hasn't past, not giving the players enough time to post as they may have things going on in their lives or are simply asleep? Also for the others which had jumped the wagon on myself, explain to me what type of evidence are you trying to gather from this?

Personally in my opinion, the only right moment for lurker hunting is if they had contributed nothing at all and half of our given time has gone. I mean otherwise, hunting for lurkers is a very easy way of lynching players and if done right, can be an advantage to the scum more so than the town as the ratio of mafia to town is 2:7.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Lovesick

Lovesick, I'll be super happy to unvote on the condition that you read through all the comments posted so far tell us your opinions on scum/town reads. Cheers

Scum post.

[LicketyQuickety]

Yes, well, I don't read people in a traditional way.

Can you back it up?
If you have reasoning that trends outside the box, then that's "non-traditional".
If you don't, then you're reading with gut which is plenty traditional if incredibly difficult to calibrate.

yes, I have reasons for my unconventional reads, but I don't like to explain them so I try and get people to do what I want though other means. I've been playing a lot less "direct" lately. Take that for what you will.

here and here for reference of my reasoning.

[Plotinus]

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

TheDominator37

(L-4): FancyPants,

TheDominator37, Superhans

Superhans

(L-3): toblerone187, TheDominator37

toblerone187

(L-5): Rautherdir

LicketyQuickety

(L-5): ConnorJC

ConnorJC

(L-5): Nachomamma8

Lovesick

(L-2): Nachomamma8, Rautherdir, Superhans

FancyPants

(L-5): Rautherdir

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[LicketyQuickety]

And now I have a question for you Nacho: No talk of RVS, no initial opening IC post. In other words, your experience is showing. Why vote Connor?

[FancyPants]

I'm generally pretty inactive on weekends.
Especially on the Friday night I start my summer vacation.

Glad that we have a few good pages of content though, I'll catch up today.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm generally pretty inactive on weekends.
Especially on the Friday night I start my summer vacation.

Glad that we have a few good pages of content though, I'll catch up today.

So you're an Aussie? Good, it will be interesting to see how you play.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm generally pretty inactive on weekends.
Especially on the Friday night I start my summer vacation.

Glad that we have a few good pages of content though, I'll catch up today.

So you're an Aussie? Good, it will be interesting to see how you play.

Or I suppose you could be from South Africa as well.. :/

[FancyPants]

South African /

[LicketyQuickety]

South African /

Should have figured. Its morning for you now, isn't it? It would be interesting to know what sites you have played Mafia on in the past if you have and you feel like sharing. Perhaps another time.. after the game maybe we can have a discussion about it?

[Superhans]

VOTE: Lovesick

Lovesick, I'll be super happy to unvote on the condition that you read through all the comments posted so far tell us your opinions on scum/town reads. Cheers

Scum post.

Yeah I think that smiley face does seem pretty scummy now that you mention it.

In all seriousness what I did may appear scummy, and perhaps I rushed too quickly onto the lurker Wagon. my reasoning was that if lots of people vote for someone who's lurking, they'll freak out when they log in, and play more aggressively.

In all seriousness, I was voting Lovesick to put pressure on him

[Superhans]

* ignore last two sentences, this is what happens when I try using my phone.