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ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #3825 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:08 pm

In post 3822, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3814, Alisae wrote:I pretty much narrowed it down to Kyouko and Gamma.
Looking at Cloudie's ISO actually helped me do that XD
Oh my god can you shut the fuck up. To me it looks like you're confbiasing.

No need to point out the obvious

Elbirn · Post Post #3826 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:30 am

In post 3753, Alisae wrote:BTW wants some?
/me offers Kyouko popcorn.

I'm rolling with either scumteam at this point
A: Kyouko, Gamma, Pine
B. Aj, Tywin, Nero

UNVOTE:

*rubs temples* I'm tired of playing like an idiot, I want to play smrterer now

I'm gonna go ahead and just wipe the slate clean on this game and start over. I'll be back after I've iso'd literally everyone and analyzed cloud/nos interactions and votes and such

Elbirn · Post Post #3827 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:34 am

Oh piss, I forgot multiquoted that

Uhh my snark won't be as effective now but yeah, alisae, your hypothesis there is basically that literally anyone in this game is scum, and I'm like "wowe so brave"

Also your preflip associative are all really really bad and I encourage you to play smarter than that. Join me in my quest to play better and stop doing that.

Find scum, kill scum, worry about their partner associative tells for the next lynch. Shoot people who town wants dead, don't go lone wolf and shoot based on illogical ideas based on preflips

Elbirn · Post Post #3828 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:01 am

In post 3795, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 3769, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.6Gamma Emerald 5 (Elbirn, Aj The Epic, Alisae, Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Titus, Gamma Emerald)
ssbm_Kyouko 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)
Aj The Epic 1 (ssbm_Kyouko)
Nero Cain 1 (Pine)

Not Voting 1 (gerryoat)

Sonia is V/LA.

In post 3622, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.5ssbm_Kyouko 5 (xSoniaNevermindx, Alisae, Aj The Epic, Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Titus, Gamma Emerald)
Aj The Epic 1 (ssbm_Kyouko)
Gamma Emerald 1 (Elbirn)

Not Voting 2 (Pine, gerryoat)
I like how the same 4 players swing from one wagon to the next like it's nothing. Doesn't surprise me to see Alisae doing this because he always sheeps but really calls into question Aj/Tywin/Nero imo. 1 of these is scum surely

This was an excellent point by the way.

Alisae
Aj
Tywin
Nero

Being the voting bloc. Alisae just does this apparently and is confirmed non-scum. But I find it unlikely for gamma to be scum if any of the latter 3 are. If the 3 are town than the wagon speed/flipping doesn't really mean much but yeah.

Analyzing why these 3 have been so flippant and what their reasons for joining the 2 wagons are could be a good start

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #3829 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:39 am

Elibrin, I like that you're reevaluating everything, and I'm pretty positive you're town, so 'if' you have the time, any updated thoughts would be welcome.

I still believe at least 1-2 scum are within the gamma/pine/Kyouko bloc. I'm almost sure of it, to the point where I think I'd be willing to bet the game on it. I'm pretty sure it's already been established that if even one of them flip town, I'm the next NK target by Alisae. So I'm putting my money where my mouth is more or less by advocating those three.

Yes, the lynches have swung between these three (mainly due to Alisae leading the charge), but I'm confident in voting any of them. All three are my top SRs. I can't throw Titus in there (as much as it goes against my gut read, I can't deny the Cabd investigation), and Nero is the only slot I'm more or less null on. I don't believe Sonia is scum, and I know Alisae isn't scum. Due to me knowing my own alignment, I know I'm scum. AJ used to be a scum read on D1, but I've largely moved him to town due to this day's posts, all of which I've liked from him. So the only iffy player on these wagons IMO is Nero, but I don't SR him like I do the three I've mentioned for the past two day phases.

Did you not scum read Pine for his post crying about Alisae NKing scum and her 'not being leashed'. I thought that was a huge scum tell. Gamma also strikes me as pretty sure scum, so I'm more than okay with lynching him. I've said it a lot, but Kyouko seems to me to be the only questionable lynch of those three. I still SR him though.

I just think we need to lynch gamma or pine and if it fails, go ahead and NK me. It's a win-win IMO.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #3830 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:45 am

Haha EBWOP: Due to knowing my own alignment, I know I'm not* scum. Haha can't wait for someone to latch on to that typo.

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #3831 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:47 am

In post 3829, Tywin Lannister wrote: Due to me knowing my own alignment, I know I'm scum.

topkek

Elbirn · Post Post #3832 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:55 am

In post 3829, Tywin Lannister wrote: Did you not scum read Pine for his post crying about Alisae NKing scum and her 'not being leashed'. I thought that was a huge scum tell.

Nope, soz. Your thinking on it is fine, I just don't find myself agreeing with it. I kinda sympathized with his annoyances at alisae suddenly getting really cocky and trying to take charge. It wasn't smart to vote for alisae but I certainly saw his frustrations coming from a townie place. I also don't believe he "cried about alisae shooting scum", but I also haven't gone and reread that post as I am lazy so here we are.

And in general I've just quite liked pines content. He gives me goodfeels. In a game where not even the conftown gives me goodfeels. I ain't lynching there.

Titus · Post Post #3833 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:20 am

Mod vc please.

I am out until tomorrow. So mini vla. Try to keep the thread managable.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #3834 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:55 am

Elibrin, I may have embellished the 'crying about NKibg scum' part haha, but that's essentially how I interpreted it.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #3835 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:56 am

Does gamma give you goodfeels?

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #3836 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:59 am

Kyouko: why do you scum read AJ? He seems to be a weird vote placement. What's the case on him?

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #3837 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:02 am

Pine: what's your case on Nero?

I really like that Kyouko/pine/gamma won't vote each other. It just seems telling to me. Those vote counts are looking good if you ask me. The three scum reads are voting random one-offs or me, but none will join the other's wagons at any point.

Alisae · Post Post #3838 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:05 am

If I go onto someone like maybe Kyouko, Gamma, or Pine; AJ, Nero, Tywin, can sheep me easily.
If I go ontot someone like Tywin or maybe Nero; Kyouko, Gamma, Pine sheep me easily.
See what my problem with this game is.

Aj The Epic · Post Post #3839 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:13 am

>Sheep.

Uh, whose read is it anyways?

Alisae · Post Post #3840 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:01 am

In post 3827, Elbirn wrote:Uhh my snark won't be as effective now but yeah, alisae, your hypothesis there is basically that literally anyone in this game is scum, and I'm like "wowe so brave"

Not really. It's based on the thesis of "Did Cloudie intentionally scumtell.?"
I think he did.

Alisae · Post Post #3841 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:02 am

In post 3830, Tywin Lannister wrote:Haha EBWOP: Due to knowing my own alignment, I know I'm not* scum. Haha can't wait for someone to latch on to that typo.

The only person that latches onto typos in this room is you.

Pine · Post Post #3842 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:03 am

Alisae wrote:
In post 3827, Elbirn wrote:Uhh my snark won't be as effective now but yeah, alisae, your hypothesis there is basically that literally anyone in this game is scum, and I'm like "wowe so brave"
Not really. It's based on the thesis of "Did Cloudie intentionally scumtell.?"
I think he did.

And I say that is absolutely trash nonsense.

Alisae · Post Post #3843 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:04 am

Alright Pine, how am I wrong?

Pine · Post Post #3844 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:18 am

As I've stated, multiple times, your primary assertion doesn't make sense. You're saying that CK bussed buddies and TRed Townies, knowing he'd flip early, just to set up bad interpretations of his ISO. Doesn't make sense. It utterly fails Occam's Razor.

Alisae · Post Post #3845 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:24 am

Pine think of it as a dead man's switch.
He was making one in the event he got lynched or in this case NK'd.

And I don't see how that doesn't make sense.
The way I see it he wanted you to go by Occam's Razor.

Pine · Post Post #3846 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:25 am

W/e

Your assumptions are unnecessarily convoluted, and therefore likely wrong.

Elbirn · Post Post #3847 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:28 am

In post 3834, Tywin Lannister wrote:Elibrin, I may have embellished the 'crying about NKibg scum' part haha, but that's essentially how I interpreted it.

In post 3246, Pine wrote:Yeah okay, Alisae is basically saying that she's going to shoot anyone who is cautious about whether she's an SK or Vig. That means she ain't leashed at all. She'll go through the Town as she wants, until she gets rid of anyone who's a threat...to her.

We can lynch Tywin whenever we want. I'd like to shake this tree while we still have people with brains to do the shaking.

VOTE: Alisae

Why would you do that tywin, just go on the internet and make up lies

Alisae · Post Post #3848 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:33 am

Pine if this game was simple in general, everyone would have saw that Cloudie scumtold and lynched him.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #3849 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:14 am

In post 3841, Alisae wrote:
In post 3830, Tywin Lannister wrote:Haha EBWOP: Due to knowing my own alignment, I know I'm not* scum. Haha can't wait for someone to latch on to that typo.
The only person that latches onto typos in this room is you.

Kyouko did jokingly latch onto it, but my statement was also made in humor. I wasn't being serious.