Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

[-Grey-]

grey has contributed little to nothing of substance to the discussion at all aside from responding to some interrogation from rask.

You're right. I'm keeping my mouth shut to avoid distracting from the wagon on you.

Dividing town's attention is the best way to let scum off the hook.

[Raskolnikov]

I did some digging and it would be insanely uncharacteristic of Grey to replace in and hard bus a scumbuddy.

How much digging?

[Raskolnikov]

Did you dig past november 26?

[Raskolnikov]

Oh yeah, if there's a BP they should claim.

[Raskolnikov]

What a tough game.

[Raskolnikov]

I am 100% positive that Schadd is town here and I have only once been wrong on a townread of this nature and it was on someone who basically stalked my mafia play for months to understand how to beat me. Raskol is confirmed. Mattblack is probably town.

How do you townread schadd more than matt?

[Creature]

idk, I don't really feel Cassielle is scum.

[Raskolnikov]

Is that because you're scum creature?

[Creature]

I don't see RC and Cass partnered together, even if RC has the fame of superbussing. Though, I feel Cass is the town and RC is the scum.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Is that because you're scum creature?

hey actually if this is not a sarcastic question

can you (and RC) give thoughts on my creature meta?

in no way, shape, or form does this read as a scumgame of creature

like after Bee Movie mafia i'm confident i can pick out scum!creature after 3-5 non-IC posts and creature's ISO still reads as a town!creature one

if i'm wrong i'd like to know why at least so i'm not giving a hard townread undeservedly

i realize that's one game but remember i skimmed through all of his micro games to make my RVS vote for that game so I'd like to think i have SOME familiarity with creature's personality

if this is scum!creature then he has significantly improved his ability to mimic his townplay and i'm honestly impressed

I don't see RC and Cass partnered together, even if RC has the fame of superbussing. Though, I feel Cass is the town and RC is the scum.

also creature if it's not casielle who would rc's theoretical partner be

mostly because i have at least some reason to think all of the other slots are town (rc included, if i squint really hard i can see how he might be town but his explanation for 921 still gives me flashbacks to my newbie so ???)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

this game honestly feels like a fever dream

[Raskolnikov]

You brought it up way too early...

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i brought it up early in the game where i caught him with it though and it still worked so idk

no offense to creature because i think highly of his townplay but i honestly don't think he's able to camouflage his scumplay even after his tells are directly pointed out

do you think the point though are wrong/not applicable?

[Raskolnikov]

He's played with me before and he knows I would be interested in sorting him at the beginning so him putting a bit of effort there to fool me is reasonable

The game I played where he was scum he did enough to make him not a d1 thing and then killed me n1

[gigabyteTroubadour]

brb gonna actually read wave then

[RadiantCowbells]

I really don't care about other people's assessments of other people's meta, especially when they might be scumpartners.
If I were to link every game where someone was 100% SURE SOMEONE WAS TOWN CUZ FRIENDS AND META and they were dead wrong and after game it's like WELP I FUCKED THAT UP SRY then the same shit happens game after game.
I do not townread Creature and I am not going to write them off as town because you say that they are town.

@Raskolnikov Grey is an alt with someone who I have experience with and I don't want to go into any more detail on the subject.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

there's a difference between saying "guys trust my read" and "tell me where i'm wrong" though

there's no point in telling someone to trust my read because that doesn't progress the gamestate at all

asking you to explain why your read is different actually does and is what i'm actually looking for

[-Grey-]

@Raskolnikov Grey is an alt with someone who I have experience with and I don't want to go into any more detail on the subject.

False, and that is a terrible assumption.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

speaking of grey

i'm kind of curious how he's actually reading me

[RadiantCowbells]

As for Schadd, he is obviously attempting to solve the game in a large number of posts. His read progression and play aligns near exactly. I do not see that from anyone else, including Matt.

Post by gigabyteTroubadour » less than a minute ago

there's a difference between saying "guys trust my read" and "tell me where i'm wrong" though

there's no point in telling someone to trust my read because that doesn't progress the gamestate at all

asking you to explain why your read is different actually does and is what i'm actually looking for

The answer to where you're wrong, assuming town, is that Creature knows exactly what you're looking for to townread him and did exactly that.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry Grey but I'm not a literal dumbfuck and it's really obvious.

[Raskolnikov]

well you know what they say everybody lies right

[Raskolnikov]

but anyways

[gigabyteTroubadour]

plus i kind of made it more obvious

there's a difference between saying "guys trust my read" and "tell me where i'm wrong" though

there's no point in telling someone to trust my read because that doesn't progress the gamestate at all

asking you to explain why your read is different actually does and is what i'm actually looking for

The answer to where you're wrong, assuming town, is that Creature knows exactly what you're looking for to townread him and did exactly that.

i mean fair point

but what about his play is scummy to you? this is where I'm trying to get this line of questioning to go

[-Grey-]

well you know what they say everybody lies right

I never lie.