Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[Aristophanes]

The claim, you fool! The CLAIM!

Obviously I should have known that.
I totally didn't get my games mixed up...

I don't remember where my vote is, but I'll change it as necessary.

[camn]

Fate ---------------

3 ( SirCakez, Aristophanes, Prism, )

[Aristophanes]

Oh good, nothing to rectify!

Thanks Camn =D

[Monokuma]

Monokuma, specifically Nahdia, read on me. Now. Go.

No no no, you don't get to do that! You're playing with Monokuma, not Nahdia. The whole is more than the sum of its parts, buster!

[Fate]

literally everyone else is great use of scum-hyperbole

Keep painting that picture of me

its fine

Even when I had literally had just posted a list of players I would not lynch under any circumstances.


Cakez hop off mastina was about as scummy a dismount you can do to

"hmm dont buy the claim but I guess ill let it slide hurrdhurhur"

[Reflektor]

Monokuma, specifically Nahdia, read on me. Now. Go.

No no no, you don't get to do that! You're playing with Monokuma, not Nahdia. The whole is more than the sum of its parts, buster!

Great, answer it Monokuma.

[Prism]

Monokuma, specifically Nahdia, read on me. Now. Go.

No no no, you don't get to do that! You're playing with Monokuma, not Nahdia. The whole is more than the sum of its parts, buster!

Great, answer it Monokuma.

Account slip.

[drealmerz7]

woah, fate, that post was kind of towny

[Monokuma]

Allow us to meditate on the subject for some time. We'll need to take an excursion to Tibet and visit our ancient monastery on a high peak in the plateau in order to achieve Samsara and be in a proper state to provide a response to your query!

[Monokuma]

Nah only fooling. Uhhhmmmmm leaning town. Definitely far from our ideal vote.

[SirCakez]

literally everyone else is great use of scum-hyperbole

Keep painting that picture of me

its fine

Even when I had literally had just posted a list of players I would not lynch under any circumstances.


Cakez hop off mastina was about as scummy a dismount you can do to

"hmm dont buy the claim but I guess ill let it slide hurrdhurhur"

Your "list of players" had like 3 people on it. That's pretty terrible in a 13 player game.
Yes I totally want to lynch someone claiming something confirmable, good idea Fate!

[Prism]

woah, fate, that post was kind of towny

I actually agree (I'm working on rereading Cakez now so that might change with additional context) and the unvote on me was unexpected. Fate doesn't seem like the type of player to think he's bitten off too much to chew as scum and back off, which makes it a weird post to evaluate.

P-Edit: Can you explain why?

[SirCakez]

Which part?

[mastina]

Congratulations for claiming at L-3 mastina.

Yes, and I had good reason to do so. FOUR players in this game who were potentially the vig held a scumread on me.
A viable strategy as a vig is to shoot a player who was a lead wagon, and none of the players on me were going to switch off of me, meaning that at the day's end, I'd be the secondary wagon, a normally good shot for a vig to take on policy alone: the idea being, the vig shot would act as a second lynch, by taking out the town's secondary suspect with the lynch as their primary.

So there was a significant chance I would be vigged.
Furthermore, assume some sort of blocking role is in the town's hands, and they used it on me. Well then, that would be suboptimal, and now they KNOW this.

Given that I had already softclaimed, and that the scum know I'm town, the scum would know I was telling the truth, so me fullclaiming gives them very little.
All it tells them is that I'm

not

the vig, but now, they're left with a choice:
Either try to find the vig with their night actions, or put a stop to my masonry with their night actions. So while I did give them the info of not being a vig, the benefit there is that they either do nothing to stop me (in which case, I lose nothing), or they do something to stop me and don't stop the vig: a win-win either way for me.

Great timing as well with the "What has Prism done?" as a push on me,

right after I announced that it would change in approximately 7 hours

.

It is precisely

because

of that timing that I am pressuring you.
Pressuring Secret Agent Jin would do jacksquat.
Pressuring BTD6_maker would do jacksquat.
Pressuring you as you are about to return, on the other hand?

That makes a difference.
It also doesn't change the point I made, about your content prior to leaving. Your strongest content was an early Gin push. Your followthrough content was basically openended posts which could easily be rewritten to serve your needs in the future. (That being, "no, I was clearly doing this thing!" if you needed to say it, or "no, I was clearly doing that thing!" if you needed to say

that

. Lots of your stuff there was open to interpretation and was not solidified.)

The plain, simple truth is that whatever wisdom you're spewing out, if any, in these 1000+ word text blocks, are being lost by your own failure to trim them down.

And that's the thing which made me accuse you of being an alt.

My posts, contrary to my reputation,

aren't

long. They're comparatively short. Fuck, if you're looking for a text block, Monokuma's 1296 is in a style I consider absolutely unreadable. You are literally the ONLY player in this game claiming an inability to parse my posts. Vaxkiller comes at a close second, but even he sees the content I'm producing.

The thing is, almost all of my posts

are

content. There's some fluff in there, yes. Talking about D&D. Posting images. Talking about art. Things like that, sure, yeah, that's fluff. Game theory, past game history, readslists, saying who I think is scum, saying who I think isn't scum, saying that these posts here are problematic, talking to players about what they're doing well and what they're not doing well, explaining myself, and so on and so forth? That? All game content. And that? Makes up 95% of my posts this game.

If most of the game thread had trouble with this, you could argue, sure, my fault for not conveying it.

But you're literally the only one who apparently can't see my content staring right at you in the face. Which is why I'm calling you out like this. You keep insulting me. You keep telling me that my posts are worthless. You keep on comparing me to long works of nothingness, insinuating that what I have given is of no value. And yet while the only way to know its value is to see the postgame results in hindsight (that being, how accurate I was and was not), the simple fact is you're pretending I'm something I'm not. You're writing me off as worthless. From an alt, I could see this. From a veteran player who remembers who I used to be, I could see this. From someone whose first mastina experience is this game, I can't see this as town, because it's far from the truth.

[drealmerz7]

4?

[Monokuma]

P-Edit: Can you explain why?

Your read on Fate.

Also @mastina that post was

deliberately structured to be dense

!!!! Grah!!

[Fate]

You asked me for reasons that I thought you were scum, Prism.

I glanced at the post, didn't read your ISO, realized I

had

no reasons for thinking you were scum.

Instead of going through your ISO and making shit up or having a conf-bias, I votedScumCakez instead. Not much to explain there, really.

Normally I enjoy Nahdia's fluff prose and posting, but this game I only get a feel of "look how townie I am really! Just jokster nahdia here!" the intent and TIMING of the fluffprose is NOT with the INTENT to humor, entertain (both others and herself), and to add depth to the thread

This is scum Nahdia posing.

That is the wagon I REALLY WANT (because cakez still has 10% of being shit at this game, but his stances and stubbornness continue to sound scummier and scummier with each post so I really am fine with either). The bonus fact that SC was on that horribad mastina wagon, and then DIDNT EVEN RECALIBRATE THE READS with mastina claiming a confirmable role

there was no "ah shit, maybe mastina is town bc of that claim? WHat odes that make Fate?"

There was ONLY A HOP FROM ONE MISLYNCH TO THE NEXT BIGGEST MISLYCNH WAGON

if I die over Cakez I dont even

dont even hope for no town nope

[Monokuma]

What an odd read.

[drealmerz7]

"confirmable role"

"yo scumbud, give me a mason townclear, k?" "k!"

[drealmerz7]

unless I'm missing something

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, I know it is wrong, but I skim Mastina posts for like, keywords and shit a lot. I love playing with you, and you are a phenomenal player,but your wordiness hurts me. It makes each page so long, which hinders catchups greatly (and I seem to be in perpetual catchup mode so...)

[drealmerz7]

ari, aren't you glad I'm not playing that way this game?!

it'd be like 4x as much content at least

[Prism]

I don't care if you're 3/3 and writing down the Holy Bible itself. Its value is subjective, because

I

am the one that has to read evaluate it, and it's worthless to me if I have to wade through an ocean of mud to get to

your singular view of the game

when I can just build a bridge, drive over the ocean, and get basically everything I need just the same.

You can be shitting solid gold in the middle of those posts for all I care.

[mastina]

All of that and you still are managing to misvote all on your own because of your own hyperinflated ego.

^Another attitude which contributes to the alt accusation.
Old players think I have an ego. (With the occasional exception.)
New players don't. (With the occasional exception.)

I've got less ego than basically any other player in the game. I doubt myself.
Consistently!
Doubt myself. Every step of the way.
I consider my flaws.
I consider the problems.
I consider all of the ways I am probably wrong.
I know that everything I do could be a mistake.
And I absolutely hate myself for it. I loathe how imperfect I am. I see every mistake before it happens, and that means every time I let the mistake happens, it's all the worse because of it. Because seeing a mistake and letting it happen is TEN times worse than not having seen the mistake when it happened in terms of competency.

In no uncertain terms, do I explain this to others.
In no uncertain terms, does the message get across easily to players.
This is the first game I've had with TheRealGin-N-Tonic, drealmerz, BTD6_maker, and Secret Agent Jin, among others.
It is one of my first games with Nahdia.

Yet none of them accuse me of having an ego, because all of them know I don't have one.

If you were an alt, your behavior would make sense.
If you were scum and Pine gave you knowledge of my past (especially by linking to past games), then your behavior would make sense.
But as town I don't see you viewing my posts this way with no prior mastina experience. Because the demeaning attitude you take. Your aura of superiority you try to take over me. The accusations you're making. They don't match reality. Not this game's reality, at the very least.

[SirCakez]

Fate admitting to voting without even scumreading people lmao