2016 NFL Football

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I was about to link to fantasy but I see Nero already did in the OP so consider this an ego post

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Just want to point out that fantasy signups close next week. Link is in the OP of this thread.

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Shaun Hill is their #2

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Anything

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They were always going to be a run first offense so I don't think defenses will change the way they prepare for AP.

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Patriots (3)
Jets
Dolphins
Bills

Steelers (1)
Bengals
Ravens
Browns

Texans (4)
Colts (5)
Jags
Titans

Chiefs (2)
Raiders (6)
Broncos
Chargers

Redskins (4)
Giants
Cowboys
Eagles

Packers (3)
Vikings
Bears
Lions

Panthers (1)
Bucs (6)
Saints
Falcons

Seahawks (2)
Cardinals (5)
Rams
49ers

Patriots over Raiders
Texans over Colts
Packers over Bucs
Cardinals over Redskins

Patriots over Chiefs
Steelers over Texans
Seahawks over Packers
Panthers over Cardinals

Steelers over Patriots
Panthers over Seahawks

Steelers over Panthers

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I actually think Bradford is a significant upgrade from Hill. If he does get hurt, they are just back where they started, not any worse off. That being said, they gave up a shit ton so they'd better hope everything goes perfectly.

But with AP in that offense, all Bradford has to do it stay healthy and not make mistakes. It's not like they need a pro bowl season out of him in order to contendfor the playoffs. Hill needed to be much better than he's shown he's capable of for them to get there.

Still, I have Minnesota as the first team out in the Wild Card race. I'm more interested in the fact that the Eagles get to see what they have in Wentz this year.

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There was a hit Kelvin Benjamin took too where I wondered if the entire purpose was to see if the ACL hadn't healed perfectly yet.

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When I played in school, we were told hit low, but like around the waist low. Not drilling each other in the knees low.

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Not that I disagree, but if you're going to use the #1 pick on a guy, you'd think you'd at least be willing to use him in the regular season. It's not like they have a franchise QB ahead of him on the depth chart.

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Yeah, people forget how good Nick Foles was before he went to the Rams. QB was far from being their only issue.

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Eh. Hard to say. If he'd sucked with the Eagles (assuming they'd kept the players they let go) or with some great team, I'd agree. But sucking with the Rams doesn't really prove anything.

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Even Rodgers sucked a bit last year with a fat Lacy and without Nelson. Football really is a team thing. I mean it ultimately falls on the guys making the personal decisions but the Rams need better guys.

Very true.

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Are there any decent QBs that will be free agents at the end of the season?

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Ryan-best qb from 2013 draft class-Nassib is gonna be a free agent at the end of the year.

I've been waiting for this dude to get a shot somewhere for like 4 years now.

Holy shit it sucks being a backup to a Manning.

Hmm. He won't be handed a job though. He'll probably compete with 1-2 guys in the preseason

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Don't the Patriots have a backup TE who was a QB in college?

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Don't the Patriots have a backup TE who was a QB in college?

AJ Derby was a backup at Arkansas and a starter at the mighty Coffeyville Community College.

Lol. Bet they could start him all year and finish with a winning record.

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The Raiders didn't get made fun of in theirs. Times are changing.

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The Colts should at least come close and the Titans probably have at least some small chance. But yeah, I agree that whoever it is gets a 4 seed and loses the the AFC West #2 team. Hopefully that's Denver or KC with the Raiders winning the West.

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Would be great. More football for the fan. More opportunities for players. More money for the industry. There's no reason not to do it.

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Romo to the Jets lol.

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Somehow, I ended up with the Ravens in the 6 seed over the broncos.

No other surprises.

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I'd have gone for it on 4th and 10. Same logic as the field goal, but probably slightly better odds of picking up the first down than making the field goal from there.

Also, I don't consider KC's win an upset. They are a better team than Denver.

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Rams sure do. Fisher must have most 8-8 or less performances of any coach at this point

Good to see you back on the forums shaft.ed

I'm bored enough to research this. I'm only going to include full seasons, but will put partial seasons with losing records in parenthesis:

Jeff Fisher 15 (1-5 in 1994)
Weeb Ewbank 13
Tom Coughlin 10
Mike Shanahan 9 (1-3 in 1989)
Dan Reeves 9 (+2 partial seasons)
Sam Wyche 9
John Kuharich 9
John Fox 8 (2016 will make 9)
Norm Van Brocklin 8 (+2 partial seasons)
Tom Landry 8 (7-8 in 1987)
Chuck Knox 8 (4-5 in 1982)
Norv Turner 8
Chuck Noll 8
Steve Owen 8

(Source= pro-football-reference.com)

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Playing around on the playoff machine and it's very hard to find a way that the Broncos get into the playoffs. They still play New England, Kansas City, and Oakland. I can't see them winning two more games.

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Nope, Browns opponents for next year are:
Bengals x2
Steelers x2
Ravens x2
Jaguars
Titans
Texans
Colts
Packers
Vikings
Bears
Lions
Jets
Chargers

*Note: They'd play the Bills or Broncos instead of the Jets or Chargers respectively if either team were to finish last in their division which is technically still possible, but unlikely.

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The Chargers really aren't a bad team. Sometimes. Like all the pieces are there and they have the ability to play well. They just don't always. I dunno, they're just a weird team.

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They've created a lot of their bad luck on their own though.

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Yeah, definitely Brady

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Not just PEG...

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All that means is you're older. I have never seen my team win a Super Bowl. I saw them play in one, but you actually got that more recently than me.

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This is true

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Ouch

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Life just isn't fair...

='(

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maybe all the qbs will break all the legs, then its even

Nah, most backups are better than mcgloin so still not even

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What happened to Carr and Mariota is sad. Both teams could have been in playoffs but I doubt either would have won it all. Raiders will likely lose to denver next week without Carr. So Raiders will play Houston in round one in what will be a QB display of futility on both sides of the field. As raiders have better defense and its playoffs, I think they'll win. But regardless of who it is, they lose to the patriots the week after that. Been saying it all year. NE vs PIT in AFC title game

This is probably the first time I've heard anyone say the Raiders have a better defense than the Texans.

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People think the Raiders are so bad without Carr that they can't even beat Denver this week? I keep seeing them given a 5 seed in these predictions...

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So apparently Bradford "earned" the 2017 starting job in Minnesota.

Wow.

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He wasn't bad, but I can't believe they wouldn't leave open the possibility of Bridgewater playing if he's ready.

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OMG IM DYING

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Cook should be fine. He played much better than Mcgloin last week

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so does this help or hurt David Carr for MVP?

He never had a chance. Didn't play a snap all year. Now he's just an analyst.

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Nah, he was never on their roster.

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exactly

Right.

Poker, if missing a game disqualifies Carr, then Brady and Bell are out for missing 4 and 3 respectively.

Ryan is a good choice. Rodgers is another good choice.

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Two broken ribs.

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I don't think it's a longshot.

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Given how Brady lacks a true #1 and Gronk, this is likely Pits best opportunity to beat New England in a long time.

I still just want NFC to win whether its GB or ATL

Well that and Brown/Bell.

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Have they ever had arguably the best in the league at both positions at the same time?

It's gonna be a good game regardless. But I don't think they've ever really had quite what they have now on offense, or at least not recently. Ward and Bettis were obviously great players. Holmes and Parker, meh. But Bell is a unique player who does it all and Brown is damn near unstoppable. If they don't fall apart in the red zone, this offense is very hard to slow down.

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Have they ever had arguably the best in the league at both positions at the same time?

It's gonna be a good game regardless. But I don't think they've ever really had quite what they have now on offense, or at least not recently. Ward and Bettis were obviously great players. Holmes and Parker, meh. But Bell is a unique player who does it all and Brown is damn near unstoppable.

If they don't fall apart in the red zone

, this offense is very hard to slow down.

See the bolded. They moved the ball great. They had 7 opportunities to score a TD and failed every single time.

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Yeah neither of these games should have been this ugly. It's been a disappointing postseason so far.

Go Falcons

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*shrug*

New England like to shut down the star player (Julio).

Matt Ryan spreads the ball around.

Should be fine

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Falcons 34-28. Ryan MVP. Both QBs 300+ yards

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It wasn't boring. The end result just wasn't what I was hoping for.

Rams/Titans was still my favorite Super Bowl

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I agree with White for MVP.

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You guys

have

to watch this:

https://www.facebook.com/BetterWithTita ... 549873466/

Do you agree?

Yes. Saw the same thing with a Packers win once. It makes any sports moment with a walk off situation and celebration better.

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Dude there's a whole facebook page for that

https://m.facebook.com/home.php?s=11772 ... thTitanic/

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Brady would say that if he was 30/30 for 750 yards and 12 TDs. It's just how he chooses to speak to the media.

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Romo's not going to KC. Foles is fine as a backup for them and Romo wants to start.

I agree with you on Tampa though. I've been saying since their little winning streak that their near future looks pretty bright.

1. PIT
2. NE
3. OAK
4. TEN
5. KC
6. CIN

1. DAL
2. SEA
3. TB
4. GB
5. ATL
6. NYG

OAK>CIN
KC>TEN
TB>NYG
GB>ATL

OAK>NE
PIT>KC
TB>SEA
GB>DAL

OAK>PIT
TB>GB

OAK>TB
37-20. Carr MVP.

Top 5 2018 draft picks:
1. NYJ
2. LA Rams
3. CHI
4. PHI
5. CLE

Fully admit to my Raiders fan bias and this is just for fun. Tampa beat KC and Seattle in that winning streak this season. I want to see what they do at RB, especially during Martin's suspension. But Winston played pretty well and is only getting better and more comfortable. Evans fixed his problems with drops and put up great numbers (#4 in rec yards, #2 in Rec TDs). I expect an upgrade at TE. The line obviously needs work, but if they take care of that, the offense will be one of the best in the league.

I considered putting the Bills in the 6 seed, but I don't like that they are going with a complete overhaul when they don't need to. The Bengals' biggest problem was injuries and they can fix that.

The NFC North is interesting too and it's easy to just default to the Packers because of their consistency over past years, but it's really not that simple. The Vikings showed promise early in the year, but they have very little cap space to fix the issues that they ran into and the DBs need to get on the same page with the coaching staff. The Lions improved a lot out of nowhere and it's hard to say whether they'll repeat this season's success or not. I can see it because the change seems to be a locker room / culture kind of thing, but maybe that would change if they lost a few games in a row at some point. It's hard for us fans to predict something like that because we aren't in the locker room with them. The Packers have already moved on from a couple of players early this offseason (Starks, Shields) but they don't really tend to make a lot of changes and they don't need to. I'd like to see them establish a running game, but they don't have many other weaknesses.

Most of my other picks are just teams that are good right now that it's hard to see dropping off. Of course 2-3 of them, at a minimum, probably will. But it will be because of a bad offseason, injuries, or other bad luck/decisions that there's no way we'll see coming right now. Other teams will improve in the draft and free agency, but it's hard to say who or why, and they may jump some of these teams. For example, the Redskins have a ton of uncertainty in their passing game. Until we see the offseason (who they keep, who they don't, and who they bring in), how can we say how they'll do next season?

I also feel weird putting the Browns at #5 in the draft believe it or not. They have a ton of draft picks, including #1 and #12 overall. They have a ton of cap space. And I really like their head coach. But a 1-15 team that is terrible at drafting and will struggle to get free agents to want to sign with them doesn't turn into a playoff team overnight. It will take time. And yes, more than it has already because they basically started over (again) last offseason. Now that they have the cap space and draft picks, it's time to see what they do with it. Baby steps.