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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:41 pm

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In post 65, Drixx wrote:
In post 40, Srceenplay wrote:
The other assumption is that you will be able to lynch scum without them getting information on a pr.

Scum will kill at night that is unavoidable. Mislynching is avoidable by
VOTE: no lynch

Are you ok with lynching a town? I'm not.


This is screaming scum vibes to me at this point.

In post 59, Srceenplay wrote:
I found one scum for us. Vote her up.
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I'm out.


And then the sudden reversal to this.

So the way I see it, one of two things is going on here.

1.) You realized the mistake of your no lynch push and jumped to this to try and get the attention off of that.
2.) You're scum and are making one heck of a gambit.

This only plays out a couple of ways. Since you have given no actual reasoning to believe she is scum, it logically follows you don't have any. Please do correct me if I'm wrong on this point.

So we could lynch you, and if you flip scum we can reasonably assume that either she's town or it was a gambit. It would be a pretty big stretch for it to be a gambit, but possible. If we lynch you and you flip town, we learn nothing whatsoever. If we lynch her and she flips town, then you go tomorrow, and if you're town that means you put us into 5 man LYLO with this stunt (presuming no kills are stopped).

I'm inclined to just assume we've got caught scum (you) in this bizarre turn of posts.

Please explain why and how you have "found one scum for us". If your explanation and reasoning make no sense, be prepared to defend yourself, because I can see absolutely zero town motive in your play so far, but lots and lots of potential scum motives.

At that point in the game everyone was convinced Srceenplay was scum but he brings up the possibility that he's making a gambit, although as scum.
I don't blame him for not considering the possibility of Town!Srceenplay making a gambit since he was a universal SR at that point. Town lean on Drixx at this point in time.


So you see town motivation in not considering I'm town?? Did I read that right?
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:42 pm

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I butchered the quotes, sorry.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:42 pm

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Only a lot.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:43 pm

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In post 424, -Grey- wrote:
In post 423, FireScreamer wrote:I think your conclusion on Drixx is contradictory to conclusions you made during your conclusion on Drixx.
It's not necessarily a bad thing, you know.

That read can always be reviewed for accuracy later. He's not a lynch option today, so there is no rush.
I'm happy enough to pursue it tomorrow. I just want to know someone sees what I see in case i'm not around to make it.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:55 pm

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In post 425, Srceenplay wrote:So you see town motivation in not considering I'm town?? Did I read that right?
I see that post as genuinely reading you as scum. Am I wrong in saying it would be a town motivated read...?
In post 423, FireScreamer wrote:I think your conclusion on Drixx is contradictory to conclusions you made during your conclusion on Drixx.
This sentence is confusing me... care to elaborate, or would you insist on waiting to see if other people see whatever it is you're seeing?
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:05 pm

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One of Drixx's posts is almost mutally exclusive to a statement you made in your post on him. I'm not trying to just FOS you in a way you can't defend here. I don't think its scummy to not understand what I am talking about here. I'll likely talk about it before the day ends(game time).
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:06 pm

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In post 429, MMM wrote:
In post 425, Srceenplay wrote:So you see town motivation in not considering I'm town?? Did I read that right?
I see that post as genuinely reading you as scum. Am I wrong in saying it would be a town motivated read...?
Just realised I misread what Srceenplay said so ignore what I said above.
You're right that that's not necessarily town motivated but he saw farther into it than anyone else which is why I think it scores some points.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:11 pm

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gg I fucked up the quote too, I'm tired
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:14 pm

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It's all unnecessary bickering, anyway.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:18 pm

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In post 433, -Grey- wrote:It's all unnecessary bickering, anyway.
Why? I'd ballpark Jen as around 80% likely to flip scum (which is pretty great for a D1 lynch). But there's still 100% another scum around. While we are waiting for people to hammer its not unreasonable that we try and find them.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:19 pm

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In post 434, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 433, -Grey- wrote:It's all unnecessary bickering, anyway.
Why? I'd ballpark Jen as around 80% likely to flip scum (which is pretty great for a D1 lynch). But there's still 100% another scum around. While we are waiting for people to hammer its not unreasonable that we try and find them.
The last Scum is between two players, and neither of those players are active ATM.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:21 pm

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You sure?
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:22 pm

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VOTE: Jen
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:22 pm

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In post 436, Srceenplay wrote:You sure?
Ask me d2.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:23 pm

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In post 438, -Grey- wrote:
In post 436, Srceenplay wrote:You sure?
Ask me d2.
I was checking the inactive part.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:24 pm

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In post 439, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 438, -Grey- wrote:
In post 436, Srceenplay wrote:You sure?
Ask me d2.
I was checking the inactive part.
Still holds.

If I had been wrong, you'd have had to ask me d2. :lol:
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:28 pm

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Drixx never really gave an opinion on Jen?
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:29 pm

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In post 441, Srceenplay wrote:Drixx never really gave an opinion on Jen?
He implied his blessing earlier.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:29 pm

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In post 387, Drixx wrote:Put a pin in Jen, as I'm pretty sure you're going to get your way on that.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:33 pm

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Or indifferent
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:34 pm

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In post 444, Srceenplay wrote:Or indifferent
Shh, I'm selling my case here.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:36 pm

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In post 380, LadyeAeaea wrote:i'll re-read JenLew tonight but I don't think you can dismiss his actions on the basis of the fact that he pissed off the town by his playstyle... and even beyond his playstyle:

tunneling on srceen w/ no justification or independent thought but *pretending* he had some, trying to influence and force a quick hammer without being blamed for it, appealing to sincerity as a defense all are really alarming, and then totally disappearing after that is scummy af

he literally slapped a "no town motivation" on srceen's actions without explaining why and then just went along with it.
I keep trying to figure out a way to respond meaningfully to you, then realize you're accusing me of "totally disappearing" for being gone for 14h.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:40 pm

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The case on Jen is shockingly convincing. I'll need to reread it later as I just skimmed through the like 7 pages from today.

Grey seems pretty solid to me so far. I don't think it benefits Scum to inject a game with that much activity/discussion.

That's L-1 on Jen I think? Should probably be something that's announced when you make a vote.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:43 pm

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In post 447, SensFan wrote:I don't think it benefits Scum to inject a game with that much activity/discussion.
TBF, I'm a prolific poster regardless of alignment.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:45 pm

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Being a prolific poster is one thing, but this game had kinda stalled/gotten sidetracked, and you not only gave it a steroid shot of activity, but also injected some new leads/reads/cases into the game immediately. Nothing major, but something worth noting for sure.

Worth mentioning: I didn't see any of the 'arguments' against me as meriting a response so I've ignored them. If anyone actually has a reasonable point they wanted me to respond to, let me know but otherwise I think it's needless noise.
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