Mini 1881 - Cult of Kira [Game Over!]

[yessiree]

Votecount 1.28

KuroiXHF (3) - FishytheFish, Peabody, Agent Sparkles
yessiree (2) - Crystal Allies, 1 Shot Vanilla Town
FishytheFish (2) - Creature, -Grey-
-Grey- (1) - randomidget
Crystal Allies (1) - Elena Fisher
RadiantCowbells (1) - yessiree
randommidget (1) - KuroiXHF
Elena Fisher (1) - RadiantCowbells

Not Voting (0) -

Nobody!

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Current deadline is Monday, February 27th at 9PM EST.

Mod Notes:

Quoting the deadline rules because they are not standard in this game:

17) If the deadline is reached without a majority, the player with the most votes will be lynched.
18) If multiple players have the same number of votes at deadline, the player who arrived at that number of votes first will be lynched. If the number of votes is 2 or less, a no-lynch shall occur.

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Current deadline is Monday, February 27th at 9PM EST.

[-Grey-]

And?

[RadiantCowbells]

I only accept dance performances and hugs from people who townread me.

[yessiree]

I forgot plurality lynch is in effect.

[-Grey-]

aight fishy and crystal are my shouts for scum so far

So uh...

Why aren't you voting a scumread?

[Crystal Allies]

Thinkbig said they can mechanically confirm themselves as town.
Thinkbig claimed they can edit the game flavor.
Game flavor already specifically looks as though it has been edited in this game.
Thinkbig has said, in response to me, that they did not have to do with that edit.

What's important about this?
Thinkbig may be lying and actually did edit in the Kuroi flavor line.
There may be two roles that edit flavor. If so, the unclaimed one is almost certainly cult.
Thinkbig does NOT have a way to mechanically clear themselves.

What was important about my questioning?
Thinkbig may not understand how cult recruitment works--they seemed to think that they would lose their ability to edit flavor info.
However, it's clear that if they are telling the truth about this, then they should also be aware someone else can already edit flavor info.
So they either:
1. Knew something about cult recruitment we don't (IE, you lose powers upon being recruited)
2. Did not know how cult recruiting worked, indicating they haven't been recruited, etc.
3. Were aware of the other flavor-editor, if one exists, and were attempting to fake a a mechanical clear on themselves.

If you still think this was just 'mechanical talk' that was useless, then I don't know what more to say.
:/

-V

why would point 3 clear me?
would that imply im not a newscaster?

Because if cult has a flavor-editor already, and Thinkbig's saying being recruited gets rid of your abilities, then the argument is 'oh hey flavor is getting edited, haha, I couldn't do that if recruited, see, I'm not recruited!'

-V

why would scum have a flavour changing ability?

In the show, Kira could actually make people do whatever he wanted before he killed them.
In fact, the flavor at the start of the game references this, because in the show, he had his victims write "Did you know, Gods of Death love apples?"
Here, the flavor at gamestart includes the line, "Did you know gods of death love pizza?"
As a person who loves pizza, I felt awkwardly called out.

-V

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Yessiree

I guess Crystral Alies could be scum. That's my second choice.

[Fishythefish]

I've found Kuroi's reaction to his wagon somewhat townish. Doesn't look like scum trying to save their own skin; the scumreads aren't what you'd expect, and the frustration is pretty convincing. I think I prefer a:

VOTE: Yessiree

With two days to go until deadline, we need to be making a decision - or scum can choose the lynch at the last minute. So if you are the only person voting someone, you should instead be choosing between the people who actually have a chance of getting lynched.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: Yessiree

I guess Crystral Alies could be scum. That's my second choice.

So you think Varsoon is bussing?

[Creature]

The crowd has spoken

VOTE: Fishythefish

[Creature]

I mean

VOTE: yessiree

[Creature]

And then Fishythefish turns out to be the one who was carrying the death note D1 -_-

[Prince Lyon]

I'd flash won creature

[Creature]

The fuck you are.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd flash won creature

Wagon

[SnarkySnowman]

I'd flash won creature

RC alt?

[RadiantCowbells]

I cannot confirm or deny these allegations.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: agent sparkles

Final answer

[yessiree]

I'd flash wagon 1-shot but he's v/la

[Randomnamechange]

fucks sake site not working has deleted my posts twice.

[Creature]

I'd not flashwagon anyone.

[Randomnamechange]

Why would town?

it doesnt really make sense for the cult to start with a crier.

Why not?

in terms of flavoura crier doesn't really work at this point in the story. mafia-wise crier wouldn't really have much cult utility.

Who's a crier here?

me

aight fishy and crystal are my shouts for scum so far

So uh...

Why aren't you voting a scumread?

didn't want to vote until fully caught up. almost done now.

Thinkbig said they can mechanically confirm themselves as town.
Thinkbig claimed they can edit the game flavor.
Game flavor already specifically looks as though it has been edited in this game.
Thinkbig has said, in response to me, that they did not have to do with that edit.

What's important about this?
Thinkbig may be lying and actually did edit in the Kuroi flavor line.
There may be two roles that edit flavor. If so, the unclaimed one is almost certainly cult.
Thinkbig does NOT have a way to mechanically clear themselves.

What was important about my questioning?
Thinkbig may not understand how cult recruitment works--they seemed to think that they would lose their ability to edit flavor info.
However, it's clear that if they are telling the truth about this, then they should also be aware someone else can already edit flavor info.
So they either:
1. Knew something about cult recruitment we don't (IE, you lose powers upon being recruited)
2. Did not know how cult recruiting worked, indicating they haven't been recruited, etc.
3. Were aware of the other flavor-editor, if one exists, and were attempting to fake a a mechanical clear on themselves.

If you still think this was just 'mechanical talk' that was useless, then I don't know what more to say.
:/

-V

why would point 3 clear me?
would that imply im not a newscaster?

Because if cult has a flavor-editor already, and Thinkbig's saying being recruited gets rid of your abilities, then the argument is 'oh hey flavor is getting edited, haha, I couldn't do that if recruited, see, I'm not recruited!'

-V

why would scum have a flavour changing ability?

In the show, Kira could actually make people do whatever he wanted before he killed them.
In fact, the flavor at the start of the game references this, because in the show, he had his victims write "Did you know, Gods of Death love apples?"
Here, the flavor at gamestart includes the line, "Did you know gods of death love pizza?"
As a person who loves pizza, I felt awkwardly called out.

-V

fair enough. would this mean that i was Kira and had the ability to force people to create a sort of last will before i killed them?

[yessiree]

I'm kind of tuning out these flavour/setup spec talks

[Creature]

Oh right, I'm assuming the original Kira didn't have much idea on how each player plays.

[Randomnamechange]

Scum always pushes my ass d1 because I don't react in ways that people want town to react, and it either results in my mislynch or me claiming my role on day fucking one.

Well fuck that and fuck anybody that thinks I'm going to claim today. I've said all about my role that I'm going to say until d2. Fucking lynch me if you have to know more, because I refuse to tell cult anything else and you bitches deserve to lose it if you're going to be shitbags.

grey being a delight as per usual

Speaking of Creature, I'm curious why you haven't weighed in on the Newscaster/flavor-that-specifically-mentions-a-player thing given that you just played in my game where you had a role where that could have confirmed game info.

idk, Newscaster is like Demigawa. Not sure if ThinkBig would claim a flavor that isn't his claim nor his fakeclaim.

don't have flavour. just a town newscaster.

Mod, everyone decided to collectively repalce out

best post so far

MOD

: What happens to a player when they are recruited into the cult?
How does the cult recruit resolve in NAR?
Does cult-recruiting count as visiting a player?
Outside of Police, what could possibly stop a cult recruit from happening?
Does being recruited into the cult change anything other than a player's win condition?

Win condition does change to the cult win condition when someone is successfully recruited, but otherwise I cannot answer any of those.

@SnarkySnowman/MOD:

You wrote that 'The Death Note can be passed off temporarily'--if this temporary Death Note Holder is killed during the night, does town win? Furthermore, who can the Death Note be passed off to--is this temporary pass to anyone or just cult?
You also wrote that 'no Death Note actions' can be taken if the Death Note passed off permanently. What qualifies as a 'Death Note action'? Can the permanent passing off of the Death Note only be done to other cult members or can anyone be passed the Death Note?

-V

I didn't miss this, but I forgot to answer. And my answer for question one, I cannot answer that. For the one about Death Note Actions, I can't tell you anything aside from the obvious, which is, killing is a Death Note action, and there may or may not be others. -Snarky

So:
We do NOT know how a player's role changes when recruited. Why does ThinkBig think they're made vanilla? Maybe I should go back to voting ThinkBig...
Mod did not say if a player who is given the Death Note gets recruited/has to be cult or not. :/ I would assume 'yes', otherwise this opens a whole can of worms.
It's curious that Snarky says 'killing' is a Death Note action, but leaves out recruiting, which seems to be the case. Regardless, this seems to indicate that there may or may not be other cult actions we don't know about.

Regardless, I think we should proceed as though the Cult Recruit resolves as recruitment would in NAR. That's the big thing here.

-V

ok i get what you were asking earlier. you thought that TB was claiming that cult recruits get vanillaized so that when he used his ability he would be conf town.