Open 675: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game Over!)

[Prince Lyon]

I am phone posting and don't do complex thoughts. I wanted to know if I was still a scumread / if I was partnered with schadd.

Spade should claim I believe.

[Prince Lyon]

Maybe not actuallt.

[Prince Lyon]

If Percival got a useful PR this may be a bid to out the backup to be rbed or nked

[Persivul]

@Persivul being placed 5th why would you opt for rolecop/universal backup when you know for sure you won't get it?

Know for sure? You haven't done your research. Based on prior runs, that role was the useful role that I had the best chance of getting. I likely could have gotten neighborizer/fruit vendor or 1X commuter/watcher, but that's kinda BFD.

[bangthemafia]

I have ISOed Persi and will post it. But at this point, I feel quite sure he is a town. So I buy his VT claim and his further explanation about Prince and top 4. There is sure a scum in top 3 or 4. Rolecop is something that scum would bid for. Town would hav bid for the regular cop.

VOTE: Whemmeplay

[Prince Lyon]

If ub/rc is in top 3 pers is near 100sies telling the truth about pick

[bangthemafia]

Should I reveal what PR I missed out on??

Probably, but wait awhile and see if there's protest.

No. Wait. The town amongst the 3 above u will get exposed that way. Scum in them knows who the town is. But scum will mostly not know what PR they hav. U will likely expose that. But this is my opinion. I m playing PYP for the first time. Take other experts' opinion.

[Spade_Ace]

@bang what do you think about alban?

[Spade_Ace]

If ub/rc is in top 3 pers is near 100sies telling the truth about pick

PL I didn't understand this. Can you explain it.

[Prince Lyon]

I have ISOed Persi and will post it. But at this point, I feel quite sure he is a town. So I buy his VT claim and his further explanation about Prince and top 4. There is sure a scum in top 3 or 4. Rolecop is something that scum would bid for. Town would hav bid for the regular cop.

VOTE: Whemmeplay

Yeah we're lynching Percival today.

No reason for him to guess that unless he knows it's true aka buddy or his pick.

[Prince Lyon]

Quote not intended obviously.

[Prince Lyon]

Tbh Percy iso isn't terrible but every time I read 570 I feel super sure that hes scum

[Persivul]

I don't Think Pp would lurk this bad as a scum. All he does is prod dodge. That brings too much attention. I doubt scum would do that.

So you think lurkers should get a pass because, hey, scum wouldn't do that. Got it!

Yes, I can see where that's basically a scum claim.

[bangthemafia]

@Prince, whats wrong with 570? Lurkers are scum or not, or scum wpuld lurk or not is always a wifom. I can see both the points. But why would u giv a free pass to lurkers? And more importantly, if someone disagrees with ur reasoning, why is that a scumtell for u. I think the more rigid/tunnelled/closed/monosyllablic townies become, the more we harm town.

@Spade, I really dont know. Till now I hav not been able to see anything really hard-scummy there. I know he is extremely busy, travelling to cities and has joined new job. But apart from the activity, which is really NAI, I didmt see anything unusual. As I said few tens of pages back, I start almost every game scumreading my last game's scum. Then i tell myself not to get tunnelled and overdo that. So i think right now, unless i see something really scummy or unless there are some associative tells after few flips, i m not for alban lynch so early.

By the way, what do u feel about my 672 post and Whemmeplay?

[bangthemafia]

Do u guys still want me to post Persi's iso- part 2? I think he is quite obvtown.

[bangthemafia]

Alright it doesn't feel like Alban is happening today and I'm not having another game where I caught Titus scum and didn't lynch her because of personal reasons.
I would rather lynch Alban if we can get a wagon going there but

VOTE: Titus

I really need something from you if you're town here because everything that you've done today points to you being scum and even if you're town you're likely wrong about Spade_Ace.
I want to point out that you disagreed with me about how to correctly gauge your reads but I correctly ignored you in 200 and also correctly pointed out in the open that your Grey read was likely to be correct.
So if you're town here you are wrong here >90% of the time and need to do something else.

Come vote up Alban with me?

Why did you want Titus to vote with you when you just voted her, and believe that "everything that you've done today points to you being scum"?

Why do you keep trying to work with someone you scum read?

this question is how confirmation bias happens

How so?

You don't find it odd at all that he strongly scum reads and votes a person, yet in the same post asks that person to vote along with them against a third? It's bizarre behavior.

Do you think that I'm scum for voting you Persivul?

I'm more concerned about you simultaneously claiming to scum-read Titus while also trying to buddy up to her.

I agree with Persi's point here. Prince's post was quite contradictory there. But more than agreeing with it, I like how Persi noticed that and brought on table and persisted woth his questioning. Seemed genuine scum hunting.

i mean, you're really just proving my point. you're not making any effort to convince me that the interaction between lyon and titus is fishy,

Should I be? Why are you so important?

i'm an eleventh of the town, and an eighth of a lynch. do you only want to convince important people?

No - I'm not trying to convince ANYONE at this point. I don't have strong enough reads. I rarely do before a few flips.

These all look Town vs town interactions. Following are some more posts that I felt were fully town-motivated-

Yeah so what I was thinking was that like my behaviour around Titus slot is the kind of thing that scum could push on if they needed to because it does directly involve me going against my reads
but it's the kind of thing that doesn't really make sense as scum and that I wouldn't expect anyone to scumread, particularly if they know who I am.

That sounds like you're saying you were laying a trap.

i don't think he was trying to trap titus though i don't really get that?

Not Titus - me, or anyone who would question why he would scum read and vote someone, then in the same fucking post plead with the person voted to vote together on a third person. It's completely stupid play. About the only thing dumber than that is scum reading someone for questioning it. Traps are bad, but I can at least respect the attempt. If it wasn't a trap, he's just a fucking idiot. You push your scum reads, you don't hold hands and sing kumbayah with them.

alban is my top choice but that wagon doesnt seem to get momentum any more

Because it's high in the draft. The first couple of people are highly likely to be PRs. It's the middle people, like spade and me, that scum want to figure out. They're not really concerned about the mislynch yet - still lots of time for that.

alban is my top choice but that wagon doesnt seem to get momentum any more

Because it's high in the draft. The first couple of people are highly likely to be PRs.

It's the middle people, like spade and me, that scum want to figure out.

They're not really concerned about the mislynch yet - still lots of time for that.

no

VOTE: persivul

VOTE: persivul

VOTE: Persivul

VOTE: Persivul

VOTE: persivul

At least one scum in {schadd, Titus}

Who is most scumread amongst 4 people above you?

Actually I asked that but I don't really feel enthusiastic about wagoning Dunnstral right now. I'll take that as a gut read and follow it.

VOTE: Schadd

Yeah, why give the top seed a night to produce?

VOTE: Prince Lyon

VOTE: persivul

^ Scum vote.

It's D1, you're town, you've been taking some pressure and just got voted again. Then someone sticks up for you. That gives you a feeling of relief. Yeah, you know buddying is a possibility, but you don't turn on the person in your corner that quickly.

Strange vote, Schadd.

[Prince Lyon]

VOTE: btm

[bangthemafia]

@Prince, you are just moving in more and more shittier murk. You were quite a strong townread for me. But i can't understand these voteshifts. Almost looks like jumping on whoever posts. But its still fine. Coz I usually tend to keep "tunnelled townie" possibility till someone compells me to think otherwise. So u want to give reasons for ur vote?

[Prince Lyon]

You are waffling like an IHOP and defending all my scumreads.

[bangthemafia]

Well, then we just agree to disagree

[schadd_]

lyon i don't suppose you want to talk about the 1-shot comer thing?

[Killthestory]

wow, killthestory apparently solved the game.

duh

Titus Lil Uzi Vert i dont like u so i might just lynch you later but u can be town
Dunnstral town
schadd_ town
gigabyteTroubadour town
PenguinPower um u can be scum bECAUSE ur A LURKER LAL
WhemePlay town but funny town
Killthestory scum
davesaz disgusting scum
alban scum
bangthemafia scum
Spade_Ace um probably town
Transcend town
Prince Lyon town
Persivul town

Your scum reads are just the lowest posters. Yeah, scum like to lurk, but if you're going to be this lazy, why bother?

wrong theres no correlation

do u think i check post counts or some dumb shit like that

ok bang

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Bangthemafia

lol

[Dunnstral]

If persi is town and telling the truth, there's probably scum above him.

With that said, I want to lynch whemeplay before ever lynching persi now. Scummiest up there for sure

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Whemeplay

Let's actually get them now