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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:01 pm

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In post 447, Eddie Cane wrote:spam some posts, disappear for a while. I get being busy irl isn't scum indicative but your post timing is just extremely inconsistent and it bothers me. just a gut level thing, but it's there and bothering me.
Explain the problem with my post timing?

Because it's been consistent site wide
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:02 pm

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In post 441, Fro99er wrote:
In post 439, Eddie Cane wrote:posts like that are exactly why. I literally just said why I wasn't pushing you; "nobody has struck me as super scummy", "ill answer this tomorrow in depth". you cherry pick and neglect to read.
But you put me in the bottom tier of your list. I want to know why. It's not for my most recent post because you put me in the bottom tier before I made that post

Do you seriously think I'm neglecting to read? Seriously?!
seriously!!
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:03 pm

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There's nobody who can honestly say I'm not reading
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:03 pm

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In post 450, Fro99er wrote:
In post 447, Eddie Cane wrote:spam some posts, disappear for a while. I get being busy irl isn't scum indicative but your post timing is just extremely inconsistent and it bothers me. just a gut level thing, but it's there and bothering me.
Explain the problem with my post timing?

Because it's been consistent site wide
I don't care about consistent site wide. Disappearing for major parts of discussion let's you coast a lot more. You are producing content, but it's like a balloon: you absorb everything and then pop with info, and you get to and void the party drama as helium is pumped into you.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:05 pm

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In post 447, Eddie Cane wrote:your interactions with bella are a HUGE amount of your posting and don't really amount to much. a seemingly strong scum read (140 for example) turns into a soft town read?
I don't understand the issue with an evolvomg read.

I said my case on Bella was just meta-based. Why is it a problem for me to null read her (you incorrectly label it as a town read) because of actual content?

She also played to her town meta a bit but at this point we're beyond meta because I've seen both town and scum meta from her.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:07 pm

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In post 447, Eddie Cane wrote:it's definitely conceivable your read could change but your bella interactions are started by you for the most part and just so much of your posting.
Object 99 posts. Bella is hardly "so much of my posts"

Again. She's my best friend on the site, I'm strongly oriented as a meta player, why is it a problem for me to focus on Bella who I have the most history with.

I did the same thing in mine and Bella's prior game (except I hard defended her there).
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:07 pm

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In post 407, Fro99er wrote:TTTT you really need to explain your bella vote.
is bad
is terrible
made Hitler blush
No really. 285 is all about how TTTT is horrible but there's no vote
until after bork's
then Bella votes me in
realizes it was scummy af
and so tacks on
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:08 pm

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In post 447, Eddie Cane wrote:almost looks like it was intended to warm up to her and buddy her later on as seen in the beginning of 276 (really awkward wording) and 388.
Do you really believe I am scum who came in here to meta scum read Bella then buddy her?

The best part is I don't have a good read on her so how is this me buddying her?
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:09 pm

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In post 455, Fro99er wrote:
In post 447, Eddie Cane wrote:it's definitely conceivable your read could change but your bella interactions are started by you for the most part and just so much of your posting.
I have
99 posts. Bella is hardly "so much of my posts"

Again. She's my best friend on the site, I'm strongly oriented as a meta player, why is it a problem for me to focus on Bella who I have the most history with.

I did the same thing in mine and Bella's prior game (except I hard defended her there).
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:11 pm

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In post 456, TTTT wrote:No really. 285 is all about how TTTT is horrible but there's no vote
until after bork's 297
then Bella votes me in 299
realizes it was scummy af
and so tacks on 300
i'm somewhat receptive to this
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:11 pm

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In post 447, Eddie Cane wrote:There's no super strong solve here. frogger has ~decently~ constructive posts overall. however, noticing timestamps, it is weaker,
Explain the time stamps part.

What makes my posting weaker because of timestamps?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:11 pm

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first: I agree you're probably reading the thread. I take issue with you saying you're actually absorbing info, because I already explicitly said both of the things you asked.

second: you voting me after I scumread you is cute

third: 403 and 388 for example implied intent to town read if that makes sense. it looks like you're setting up to buddy bella later.

fourth: I'm too tired for this argument

fifth: STOP SPAMMING AND FUCKING PUT EVERYTHING IN ONE POST
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:13 pm

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In post 461, Eddie Cane wrote:first: I agree you're probably reading the thread. I take issue with you saying you're actually absorbing info, because I already explicitly said both of the things you asked.

second: you voting me after I scumread you is cute

third: 403 and 388 for example implied intent to town read if that makes sense. it looks like you're setting up to buddy bella later.

fourth: I'm too tired for this argument

fifth: STOP SPAMMING AND FUCKING PUT EVERYTHING IN ONE POST
I voted you before you scumread me!

Just because I'm voting you now doesn't change that i've scumread you most of the game.

Your post against me lacked actual reasons. I don't believe you actually think I'm scum.

You just threw me in your bottom tier and then made up a push.

BTW you were the one who reaction voted me
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:14 pm

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In post 461, Eddie Cane wrote:third: 403 and 388 for example implied intent to town read if that makes sense. it looks like you're setting up to buddy bella later.
WHAT IS THIS

why are you projecting a future state of me? That's just contrived as all hell
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:15 pm

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Especially after you said it WAS buddying and now changing your tune to setting it up as buddying
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:15 pm

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No fixking way this dude is town
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:15 pm

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No fixking way this dude is town
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:15 pm

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Lol double post
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:16 pm

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In post 457, Fro99er wrote:
In post 447, Eddie Cane wrote:almost looks like it was intended to warm up to her and buddy her later on as seen in the beginning of 276 (really awkward wording) and 388.
Do you really believe I am scum who came in here to meta scum read Bella then buddy her?

The best part is I don't have a good read on her so how is this me buddying her?
yes!I do! because you backed off and are now moving towards a townier direction. you are setting up buddying, I've already linked posts that evidence this.

and it's not a future state, I already linked examples of early buddying.

this is getting circular.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:16 pm

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In post 461, Eddie Cane wrote:fifth: STOP SPAMMING AND FUCKING PUT EVERYTHING IN ONE POST
THATS HOW I PLAY LIVE WITH IT DONT TELL ME HOW TO PLAY
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:17 pm

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In post 464, Fro99er wrote:Especially after you said it WAS buddying and now changing your tune to setting it up as buddying
You are actually so fucking obnoxious

I'm done replying to froggers repetitive spam posts, going to bed in a few so if anyone wants to direct something to me quickly hmu.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:18 pm

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Eddie what was awkward about my wording in 276
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:19 pm

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His is me directing something to you quickly
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:19 pm

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In post 403, Fro99er wrote:
In post 370, TTTT wrote:Re-reading now.
I'm up to my infamous post
might have to stop and finish later
after six pages Bella looks like scum
lowell/frogger/SS/bork all get to be town for now
GL/sbf/eddie null
explain the bella scum read. I'm not sure where I'm at with her. The meta had me scum leaning, but she hasn't really done anything scummy I can point out. In fact, I liked her pressure of me when she said I just ignored her reasoning around calling Bork/GL a scum-scum interaction.
In post 388, Fro99er wrote:
In post 287, Eddie Cane wrote:this is why I'm voting sbf. she has done 0. 0. she came back and produced nothing. I want her to take stances and start posting.
See, I also take issue with this.

Bella -- this is exactly what sheep did in our game we just finished. Just voting for pressure but not doing anything with it.
These are examples I've already linked. you are showing early buddying. it just didn't develop. constantly bringing up that she's your best friend does not help.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:21 pm

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In post 473, Eddie Cane wrote:it just didn't develop.
maybe it didn't develop because that's not what's actually happening
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