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[Eddie Cane]

anyway. i'm town. lowell is confusing af, bork is town, gl might be town. come talk to me.

I'm town too, I'm just not there yet with you if you are.

I agree with Lowell, but more than confusing I think he's just being shallow. I hate shallow reads, that's why I jumped on Sheep that last game.

Agree bork is town and GL is town. GL reminds me of PV or Anatole Kuragin when I read them boht as town in MAFIACEPTOIN despite both of them pushing hard on me. They both just seemed like they really believed what they were saying, even though they were wrong. I'm getting that vibe from GL too, that he really thinks I'm not playing intellectually (which I'm biting my tongue about) or with a deep understanding of the game. But he doesn't understand that my gravitation this game is toward you and figuring you out as soon as possible and that's why it's so important to me, and he also doesn't understand that I take note of how people read me. I get wary of WKs/buddying of me, and I'm wary when people scum read me but don't do anything with it.

Our reads are close which makes me feel a bit better, but I'm still relying on the meta that I know of you and I'm just not there yet B.

I said the early part of 276 and this is what I was referring to. it is in the same boat as the above posts I linked, and really appears LAMIST to me. does not seem like a necessary edition to the post.

[Eddie Cane]

it just didn't develop.

maybe it didn't develop because that's not what's actually happening

becuase it's early d1 and it was happening RECENTLY? there's already 3 examples I've brought up now.

[borkjerfkin]

3 examples of what? reaching out to her? you're saying 'this has the potential to become buddying' (which in itself might not be scummy) with no buddying

town call themselves town all the time; i had never seen the LAMIST acronym before this game and if i ever see it again it'll be too soon; its a confbiasy term designed to make your argument sound better than it is (not saying you're scum for using it; it just doesn't lead toward any revelations)

[Fro99er]

anyway. i'm town. lowell is confusing af, bork is town, gl might be town. come talk to me.

I'm town too, I'm just not there yet with you if you are.

I agree with Lowell, but more than confusing I think he's just being shallow. I hate shallow reads, that's why I jumped on Sheep that last game.

Agree bork is town and GL is town. GL reminds me of PV or Anatole Kuragin when I read them boht as town in MAFIACEPTOIN despite both of them pushing hard on me. They both just seemed like they really believed what they were saying, even though they were wrong. I'm getting that vibe from GL too, that he really thinks I'm not playing intellectually (which I'm biting my tongue about) or with a deep understanding of the game. But he doesn't understand that my gravitation this game is toward you and figuring you out as soon as possible and that's why it's so important to me, and he also doesn't understand that I take note of how people read me. I get wary of WKs/buddying of me, and I'm wary when people scum read me but don't do anything with it.

Our reads are close which makes me feel a bit better, but I'm still relying on the meta that I know of you and I'm just not there yet B.

I said the early part of 276 and this is what I was referring to. it is in the same boat as the above posts I linked, and really appears LAMIST to me. does not seem like a necessary edition to the post.

So the boldest is the issue?

Go look at any game with me and Bella in it

[borkjerfkin]

wondering if i legit totally mcfucked the bella read early game because TTTT's recent post is a good post

[Eddie Cane]

this is why I'm voting sbf. she has done 0. 0. she came back and produced nothing. I want her to take stances and start posting.

See, I also take issue with this.

Bella -- this is exactly what sheep did in our game we just finished. Just voting for pressure but not doing anything with it.

So bork, do you not consider this buddying? not a rhetoric question, I've been told I use the term buddying differently than most people on this site so it might just be me.

[borkjerfkin]

it could be called a mild form of buddying but i think a townread on bella has to preclude it and on a level it's just trying to get your scumreads lynched

like if he'd said it to me would it be buddying?

[borkjerfkin]

for two people who know each other well, between frog and bella i see a lot more evidence of the former trying to read the latter than the reverse

[Fro99er]

How is that buddying.

That's me appealing to Bella that she should be listening to my read on you because Injust saw the EXACT same thing happen elsewhere.

I could say this to any other person in this game but they wouldn't get it because they weren't in that prior game with me. But Bella was

[Eddie Cane]

it could be called a mild form of buddying but i think a townread on bella has to preclude it and on a level it's just trying to get your scumreads lynched

like if he'd said it to me would it be buddying?

If he just completed a game with you, yea. Mafia is a psychological game and I'm a psychology student so I overanalyze some aspects. not really relevant here though.

did you read my initial post on frogger / have thoughts on it?

I have work at 5 am I really need to sleep but my brain is all juicy >_>

[Fro99er]

Wait so now it's buddying if I completed a recent game?

[Fro99er]

With that person

[Eddie Cane]

another example of not reading (eye roll emoji idk how to do)

"Bella -- this is exactly what sheep did in our game we just finished. Just voting for pressure but not doing anything with it."

how would this interaction make sense if you hasn't just completed a game? huh?

[Fro99er]

That's my point.

How is that buddying?

Why isn't that just me trying to show her why I'm scumreading you? I dunno about you but when's i scumread someone I try to get others to see why.

[Fro99er]

another example of not reading

This is also clearly bullshit. Even if I misinterpreted you this is bullshit about me not reading and is just a lame attempt to throw shade on me

[Fro99er]

Everyone should be sheeping me on eddie

[Eddie Cane]

2 part reply spicy

a) tons of people scumread people and don't make arguments at the time or even at all. some players ie transcend do it consistently.

b) but, the more on topic answer is that it's the wording. you're agreeing with her, feeding her the answer. it's psychological manipulation.

[Eddie Cane]

another example of not reading

This is also clearly bullshit. Even if I misinterpreted you this is bullshit about me not reading and is just a lame attempt to throw shade on me

It was sarcasm as the line after it you left out of your quote suggested. and, on that note, you're giving me a headache and i think weve been back and forth enough so I truly am done replying to you.

[borkjerfkin]

I have work at 5 am I really need to sleep but my brain is all juicy >_>

447? i did read it and i'm rereading it.

Don't agree with your activity point at all.

I think he's interacted well with most people, I am ok with putting extra effort on Bella esp if he hasn't figured her out yet.

I think a lot of the other stuff is gut; there is nothing strictly wrong with that but I can't really corroborate it with you and it's going against my intuition that he is one of the few people attempting to solve the game.

I don't want to really shut the argument down because there is a lot of good stuff able to be taken away from this hopefully by more than just me

[borkjerfkin]

Everyone should be sheeping me on eddie

still don't agree and I'm not sure what to do about it because I'm not sure it's easily articulated

[Fro99er]

b) but, the more on topic answer is that it's the wording. you're agreeing with her, feeding her the answer. it's psychological manipulation.

How is this...

"Bella -- this is exactly what sheep did in our game we just finished. Just voting for pressure but not doing anything with it"

...me agreeing with her?

Unless you are referring to something else (before you accuse me of not reading again)

[Eddie Cane]

I have work at 5 am I really need to sleep but my brain is all juicy >_>

447? i did read it and i'm rereading it.

Don't agree with your activity point at all.

I think he's interacted well with most people, I am ok with putting extra effort on Bella esp if he hasn't figured her out yet.

I think a lot of the other stuff is gut; there is nothing strictly wrong with that but I can't really corroborate it with you and it's going against my intuition that he is one of the few people attempting to solve the game.

I don't want to really shut the argument down because there is a lot of good stuff able to be taken away from this hopefully by more than just me

Yea

and again, remember that I already said it's not a super strong scum read. it'd why I scum lean him, though he's definitely below Sobolev now.

I'm also interested for what sbf says on the matter, and of course bella since she's a large part.

[borkjerfkin]

and again, remember that I already said it's not a super strong scum read.

i know.

[Fro99er]

I want to hear more about the timestamps and the timing of my posts Eddie

[Fro99er]

Everyone should be sheeping me on eddie

still don't agree and I'm not sure what to do about it because I'm not sure it's easily articulated

What don't you agree with.