:/In post 947, Antihero wrote:lq if you want to lynch m+m, you will have to do it without my vote and against my advice
what does any of this have to do w kts?In post 946, LicketyQuickety wrote:Its a tin foil hat theory that RC is bussing Hawk and Hawk is acting like "well, that's the plan" and is acting all defeatist because they areIn post 943, Antihero wrote:i'm sure there is a universe where that sentence makes sense...In post 937, LicketyQuickety wrote:Their vote on Hawk when I said Hawk was being defeatist andI then instead voted RC because I thought something fishy was going on with RC/Hawk.
this one is not itsupposedto get lynched by RC here. I also really want to push RC because I honestly haven't seen anything you can call traditionally townie from them.
KTS didn't see what I saw, they just saw that Hawk looked like shit for lying down ready to die early D1 for shitty ass reasons.In post 951, Antihero wrote:what does any of this have to do w kts?In post 946, LicketyQuickety wrote:Its a tin foil hat theory that RC is bussing Hawk and Hawk is acting like "well, that's the plan" and is acting all defeatist because they areIn post 943, Antihero wrote:i'm sure there is a universe where that sentence makes sense...In post 937, LicketyQuickety wrote:Their vote on Hawk when I said Hawk was being defeatist andI then instead voted RC because I thought something fishy was going on with RC/Hawk.
this one is not itsupposedto get lynched by RC here. I also really want to push RC because I honestly haven't seen anything you can call traditionally townie from them.
unless it's something measurably suboptimal like faking guilties or not claiming miller in the first post or something else technical like that, there's no such thing as "objectively scummy"In post 950, LicketyQuickety wrote::/In post 947, Antihero wrote:lq if you want to lynch m+m, you will have to do it without my vote and against my advice
Why is RC Town?
That hydra has acted objectively Scummy... I know meta is a thing, but acting blatantly anti-town is NO reason to Town read someone. I think RC is pulling strings. That haven't made a single solid push yet. Their current vote is on Hawk for reasons of IIoA used horribly wrong. Occam's Razor... If it looks like Scum...
and hawk's not scummyIn post 952, LicketyQuickety wrote:KTS didn't see what I saw, they just saw that Hawk looked like shit for lying down ready to die early D1 for shitty ass reasons.
ok just for funIn post 946, LicketyQuickety wrote:Its a tin foil hat theory that RC is bussing Hawk and Hawk is acting like "well, that's the plan" and is acting all defeatist because they areIn post 943, Antihero wrote:i'm sure there is a universe where that sentence makes sense...In post 937, LicketyQuickety wrote:Their vote on Hawk when I said Hawk was being defeatist andI then instead voted RC because I thought something fishy was going on with RC/Hawk.
this one is not itsupposedto get lynched by RC here. I also really want to push RC because I honestly haven't seen anything you can call traditionally townie from them.
oh... i seeIn post 949, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:A vote for scum.
the CLOSEST you've gotten to a town post is probably this but otherwise ... meh?In post 799, Killthestory wrote:im honored u think I'm good by the way but rc is right I'm trash
that doesn't mean i won't push whoever the fuck I want to tho
Nice. Little Messi over here.In post 956, Killthestory wrote:what the hell anti I'm obvtowning
@LUV, kind of but I was talking about soccer practice. I'm on the school team
I mean most of it is pretty self explanatory. I can understand someone not seeing my problem with the second post though.In post 957, Antihero wrote:oh... i seeIn post 949, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:A vote for scum.
so i guess there's no chance of you telling me how you can look at those four posts and think an m+m vote follows?
In my book (I have a lot of experience with getting Scum read for this) If you can't come up with a reasonable reason for Scum reading someone, it is likely that they are Scum because this is the corner stone of a good Scum game and something that must be taken under heavy heavy scrutiny. Honestly there is so much potential WIFOM surrounding what the read on RC is that it is borderline repulsive. Every defense that RC has given in retort of being Scum read is literally "If I was Scum you would not be suspecting me." In what universe of Mafia should this kind of defense fly? If you are proficient enough in the game to get awarded an award for being most cunning manipulator, you should damn well know that reasons for why you do what you do, even in the case of lynching Town, even if those reasons are hidden from other players, must be sound. You do not have a superior game as any alignment without superior reasoning skills. Because of this I know that RC has the ability to provide reasons and they are not doing this. They are coasting off their meta and it is damn right sickening. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard that using arguments such as "because I said so." I might be crazy here, but at least I give reasons for doing the shit I do and I am God tier Town read in some of the game I am Town because of this.In post 953, Antihero wrote:unless it's something measurably suboptimal like faking guilties or not claiming miller in the first post or something else technical like that, there's no such thing as "objectively scummy"In post 950, LicketyQuickety wrote::/In post 947, Antihero wrote:lq if you want to lynch m+m, you will have to do it without my vote and against my advice
Why is RC Town?
That hydra has acted objectively Scummy... I know meta is a thing, but acting blatantly anti-town is NO reason to Town read someone. I think RC is pulling strings. That haven't made a single solid push yet. Their current vote is on Hawk for reasons of IIoA used horribly wrong. Occam's Razor... If it looks like Scum...
also i don't think the hawk push is scummy ...?
jfdslkaaaaa;jelk;vmal;dsjfewk;fsdmc;lkjfdew;lfj;lkdvjroie439jflkdedafwe392pfjdkl;afmcvmndskfjewi;9a23In post 963, LicketyQuickety wrote:In my book (I have a lot of experience with getting Scum read for this) If you can't come up with a reasonable reason for Scum reading someone, it is likely that they are Scum because this is the corner stone of a good Scum game and something that must be taken under heavy heavy scrutiny.
That's like saying Tells don't exist.In post 965, Antihero wrote:first things first, nothing is "objectively" anything right now
i don't agree with thatIn post 963, LicketyQuickety wrote:RCs case on Hawk is objectively bad. Not only are they reluctant to actually give reasons for their Scum read on Hawk, but the reasons given do are not logically, informationally, or site meta sound. There is literally no substance to the read whatsoever. It is all smoke and mirrors for RC to spin a story Day 2 on why they wanted Hawk lynched. Hawk has said they have insight into why RC is tunneling them, that reason being so RC can single handedly solve the game by looking at reactions from a lynch on someone who is giving up and town reading the person who is tunneling on them.
i don't rly know what parallels that game is supposed to have w this one....In post 963, LicketyQuickety wrote:Thor665 Scum reads me hard core, I don't give up, I fight with him for pages and pages of wall post after wall post. I am not even sure the guy is Scum, but I still think the stuff he is doing is shady. Town won this game in a landslide because I did not give up fighting. It was literally David and Goliath. This is the way games should be played.
Let me say it this way: The better the Scum game someone has, the more scrutiny they must be put under each and every game. Good Scum players should never get an easy Town read. They should have to bite and claw for every Town read they ever get. This is why I chose to get better as Town instead of Scum.In post 966, Antihero wrote:jfdslkaaaaa;jelk;vmal;dsjfewk;fsdmc;lkjfdew;lfj;lkdvjroie439jflkdedafwe392pfjdkl;afmcvmndskfjewi;9a23In post 963, LicketyQuickety wrote:In my book (I have a lot of experience with getting Scum read for this) If you can't come up with a reasonable reason for Scum reading someone, it is likely that they are Scum because this is the corner stone of a good Scum game and something that must be taken under heavy heavy scrutiny.
He's just giving you an example of what he thinks RC should be doing here.In post 971, Antihero wrote:i don't rly know what parallels that game is supposed to have w this one....In post 963, LicketyQuickety wrote:Thor665 Scum reads me hard core, I don't give up, I fight with him for pages and pages of wall post after wall post. I am not even sure the guy is Scum, but I still think the stuff he is doing is shady. Town won this game in a landslide because I did not give up fighting. It was literally David and Goliath. This is the way games should be played.
I don't have time right now to tear apart M&Ms case on Hawk right now, but if that is what it takes for you to consider M&M as Scum I will do so tomorrow.In post 968, Antihero wrote:i don't agree with thatIn post 963, LicketyQuickety wrote:RCs case on Hawk is objectively bad. Not only are they reluctant to actually give reasons for their Scum read on Hawk, but the reasons given do are not logically, informationally, or site meta sound. There is literally no substance to the read whatsoever. It is all smoke and mirrors for RC to spin a story Day 2 on why they wanted Hawk lynched. Hawk has said they have insight into why RC is tunneling them, that reason being so RC can single handedly solve the game by looking at reactions from a lynch on someone who is giving up and town reading the person who is tunneling on them.
hawk didn't really do much in his first couple posts aside from say something about uzi and his PR game. now... i didn't really know what to think about that but i could see someone looking at hawk's early posting and going "scum trying to avoid doing anything meaningful."
these are SUBJECTIVE things, btw.