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Post Post #36 (isolation #0) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:15 pm

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VOTE: Pere

Are you going to play this game this time :P
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Post Post #44 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:18 pm

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LOL last time we played YOU were scumz IIRC Trans. :P

So why do you think my RVS vote indicates a scummy play?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:20 pm

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Pere is PeregrineV, I always call him Pere, and I always tease him about his activity level.

Its not weekend so hopefully he gets on and posts.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:23 pm

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i am more of a coffee gal, but I do like tea as well. I usually though start with players I have played with before and I don't think I have played with either of your heads before? NBA?
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Post Post #553 (isolation #4) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:38 am

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Feel good about creature's entrance

Did McMenno post and I missed it in trying read through the 16 pages that happened while I was alseep?

Why did people take FA clearly joke claim seriously?

Feeling a bit unsure on the hydrae with Titus and Math mostly because I am not seeing much from them mainly from Titus at this point. Neither is tunneling majorly and that has me somewhat concerned.

Pere seems relaxed, so meh moving along to do real votes now.

need more from dave that was not enough dude I remember Mastin's game after all.

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Post Post #557 (isolation #5) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:40 am

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Moth she claimed town tracker on day 1 with results that is clearly a joke and a reaction test :lol:
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Post Post #560 (isolation #6) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:42 am

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uh creature how come you have me as a town read already?
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Post Post #566 (isolation #7) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:43 am

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oh yes Noted on the can't neighborize the Titus hydra which I am just gonna call VoT
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Post Post #577 (isolation #8) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:49 am

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I did not say I wanted Titus to tunnel, I said the lack of Titus posts with the usual tunnel is making it hard for me to read your slot
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Post Post #580 (isolation #9) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:54 am

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that is typical Creature though

hes prob town.
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Post Post #584 (isolation #10) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:56 am

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yeah my vote stays

I need more Dave to convince me you are town.
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Post Post #1601 (isolation #11) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:42 pm

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damnit I get swamped with work stuffs and fixing my computer issues and you all hyper post

Titus why vec, if you wanted to commit suicide at least confirming someone who might actually play would be better. uggh

Vec stop being a deadweight and play now that you are a mod confirmed IC


Pere is prob town guys he does lurk too much but this feels like his town


FA I posted in our thread, banter.
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Post Post #1614 (isolation #12) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:11 pm

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No I am not a neighborizer
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Post Post #1615 (isolation #13) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:14 pm

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I assumed it was a random thingy from the mod, Our mod is famous for all kinds of twists in games.

Even though there is only two of us, I was not assuming it was a masonry, so I was giving some info to FA and focusing on figuring out if she was town or scum. But was also holding back.

I have claimed to her in the hood.
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #14) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:25 pm

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I skimmed like 30 pages peeps, I will reread it and come up with more reads

But yeah even though it bothered me that both VoT (now conf town), and GP were town reading me so heavily, and were not uber tunneling, I still felt they are town (well now GP since we know VoT is conf town).


I am concerned about trans mostly because the last game I town read him majorly and it cost us the game. So not totally sold he is town.


nancy is prob town.


Dav it was not because you were inactive that I was voting you, its because what you did post was not helping me peg you. Still need more to peg you.

Creature you need to get back in the game dude, I have you as prob town, but you do not get to coast.

More later after I do a more thorough rereading.
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #15) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:15 am

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Took me a while, but found the game where Trans fooled me so well as scumz

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Post Post #2904 (isolation #16) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:27 pm

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Swamped with work but I will do my best to catch up.

First of all lets move past the whole shot thing, Why not focus on who else was scum reading vecna at that time that might have led up to the shot, that might actually be more useful.

Welcome to the game Infin glad to have someone who is basically a mod confirmed IC that will actually help us.

Next @ moth what kind of case do you have besides I seemed to be lurking in a hyperactive game when RL has been kicking me in the ass.

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Post Post #2907 (isolation #17) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:31 pm

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I claimed to FA in the banter hood, its there for you to read Cass, please do read it.

I also posted a game with scum trans in it, did anyone actually see that and read it? Its a fairly short game.

In that game he basically begged us to lynch him. The gamble payed off and we moved on to someone else and trans won in the end for scumz.

I am not seeing that here. So not totally sold on him being scumz.

My only experience IIRC with MariaR is as the backup mod for Von in his theme game she was town there. I can find the link if you all want when I get back more active.
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Post Post #2908 (isolation #18) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:32 pm

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I dont have time for ISOing right now moth hence the V/LA
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Post Post #4050 (isolation #19) » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:38 am

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I wonder why scumz killed creature instead of Infin who was the comfirmed townie?

and uggh who made 3 of our peeps come up missing that is bizarre.

mayhap have a 3rd party? Some kind of kidnapper? We had one of those in a game I played on a different site not too long ago.

also not sure why my vote was taken off of dave when I was VLA because I did not unvote

trying to catch up again now that we are back. Game was in night when I got off of VLA

Going to take a look at the final vc and also who was interacting with creature that might be scummy.
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Post Post #4052 (isolation #20) » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:53 am

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I missed that but then Im bad about reading through the OP in full I tend to skim it.
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Post Post #4101 (isolation #21) » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:27 pm

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at mod I thought moth replaced out and you had a replacement while in the night phase or was that someone else?
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Post Post #4103 (isolation #22) » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:34 pm

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ok thanks now it will be easier to do my catch up
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Post Post #4172 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:53 pm

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I promised cass this in banter based on our discussions in there


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Post Post #4174 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:00 pm

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good to have you and the others back infin
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Post Post #4373 (isolation #25) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:26 am

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uggh why so much AtE if you are lynchproof nancy? Why not prove it to us and move on

I am not buying the claim. I feel those who disappeared and came back are town, and yes part of this is because of the pt with cass who I was already town reading when FA had the slot. It was the FA I first saw in Mastins crazy game before she was culted. After that I knew she was different but could not convince enough others even though as Nicholas I was practically an Innocent Child along with my gf Alexis with the cause to win it for town and us oddball 3rd party folk with getting the treaty through.

Which I DID.


Trying to scum read me on activity level is pretty lame too, Anyone who has played a lot of games with me knows my activity level depends on whats going on in RL And I was on a VLA when the day ended so abruptly. So yeah Im playing major catchup


Also I am a flipping PR lame though it may be. I am a hunter (basically a modified monitor with only one target allowed) I caught my target doing an action. Unfortunately I can't pick my target I always have the same one. A bunch of question marks. I have a passive too where basically as long as the question marks person is alive, even if I die via lynch or NK, I stay alive as basically a tree stump. If question marks dude or dudette dies I die for realz.

Oh and Im Maestro

There claim and info

You need to figure out who question marks dude or dudette is. I am town.


I also have a lot of work right now because I am setting up 3 PLR product launches back to back to back with a joint venture partner so I can get together the money I need to move this summer to Buffalo, NY and get out of the South for good. So if you expect me to have the rabid level of activity I had in some of the other games, forget it. This move means the world to me for so many reasons and I have to make it happen.


I think Dave is scum I think Nancy is scum


Infin is conf town
Cass is a town read as well
Pere is always fairly inactive but since the bubble members say he is town I will go with that
Also feel that Jae and Math (whom I have been in a few games with, mostly math though) are town
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Post Post #4374 (isolation #26) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:27 am

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Night 1 No action

Night 2 Action

to make sure its clear.
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Post Post #4376 (isolation #27) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:36 am

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because we had a death and I got a positive result.
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Post Post #4377 (isolation #28) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:37 am

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Plus if people are going to discredit me based on activity level, after I have been VLA and will likely be VLA again before everything is said and done, then there is not point in not claiming.
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Post Post #4382 (isolation #29) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:47 am

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Infin's List

Yume - town because reasons
Postie - probably scum
McMenno - I liked his posting a lot (from what there was)
TiphaineDeath - town cause dark pt stuff
nancy - scum
PeregrineV - probably town because reasons
KFC (Fluminator et al.) Narna - ?
MariaR - probably scum
RachMarie - ?
The Glitter Patrol - town for posting
Moth PimHel - town for moth's posting
Davesaz - town cause dark pt stuff
Frozen Angel cassielle - town for posting

Cass' List

Yume - town
Postie - probable scum, 75%
McMenno - nulltown: lurky but the posts that exist are obvtown
TiphaineDeath - town if Davesaz is town, unknown if Davesaz is scum
nancy - scum, 95%
PeregrineV - town
KFC (Fluminator et al.) Narna - unknown
MariaR - probable scum, 75%
RachMarie - nulltown: v/la explains lurking, content looks good. Some questions remain
The Glitter Patrol - nulltown: impossible to mechanically confirm (i.e. scum can lurk here) but doesn't feel like scum at all
Moth PimHel - unknown
Davesaz - town if TD is town, scum if TD is scum
Frozen Angel cassielle - literally me, town
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I think they are very good read lists, the fact there is some discrepancy is good too. I would say that I am closer to Cass' list than yours, I still think dave is probably scum for example. I definitely do not believe Nancy's claim and I think the fact she and others are trying to move away from proving it, which lynchproof is easy to prove. And it is something we need to know BEFORE MYLO or LYLO, is indicative that its a fake claim.

Another reason for claiming. After all pushing a wagon on me gives the scum a chance to keep us from proving nancy's claim. And I am all too familiar with how easy it is to get a wagon going on me. I want us to stay focused on what we need to do, lynch scum. Including that question marks personage whomever they happen to be.

I caught scum last night. I am far weaker than a cop or even a tracker would be, but I still want to make sure town has my result.
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Post Post #4384 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:50 am

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benefactor what benefactor?

I have the chance to find out when a scumz is doing wrong, Im basically a very weak investigative role. I don't give a rats ass if I die, as long as the scum dies. The one who did an action last night and killed a townie.
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Post Post #4387 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:51 am

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we need to test Nancy's claim now not in MYLO or LYLO. Plus I don't think she is true claiming, and she might even be my target the question marks person, whom I caught red handed last night.
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Post Post #4389 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:53 am

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yeah I was thinking he meant you lol

Since I am Rach and most peeps call me Rach its short for Rachael my first name and Marie is my middle name.
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Post Post #4495 (isolation #33) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:42 pm

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Post Post #4496 (isolation #34) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:48 pm

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got the result once again question marks did an action last night

so he or she killed someone again.

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Post Post #4509 (isolation #35) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:05 am

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She should have been helping us with figuring out who the scum is and she should have just been honest about being loved and needing one more vote to lynch.

fake claiming as town is bad form and with very very VERY few exceptions, mostly where you might withhold part of your claim, should you fake claim as town. In general JUST DON'T DO IT.

So now we have to look at her lynch and figure out who has jumped on it that is scumz at least one did I am sure.


going to take a look at her wagon and see if I can figure out who the scumz are.
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Post Post #4545 (isolation #36) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:06 am

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I took light because though a weak investigative role I felt it was the one that was best to help town out of all three choices.

So yeah there you go Im light. I did not realize though my monitor would not be something I could target but only tell me the results of one specific player. That kind of sucks :(

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Post Post #4552 (isolation #37) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:05 am

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Well now that you are here, any ideas on the game?
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Post Post #4565 (isolation #38) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:04 pm

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VOTE: Dave

He has been my strongest scum read for quite some time.

he may even be the question marks person who did actions (probably the nk) the last two nights.
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Post Post #4568 (isolation #39) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:08 pm

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Not sure on Pere but he could be scum this go around him being lurky AF is normal though hes often lurky in games plus the not being on during weekends adds to that.

but yeah the rest sound pretty good to me.

I have town reads on most of the other players, some weaker than others.
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Post Post #4672 (isolation #40) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:04 am

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I am not feeling town dave it feels far more like the one in Mastin's game. I understand its a hyperposting game, I understand its hard for a busy person to keep up with this game. Still, its feeling like hes flailing to me instead of giving info that can help town find scum.
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Post Post #4737 (isolation #41) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:33 am

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sigh so basically most people read dave as scum but we are holding off hammering for ?

because I just see the game becoming kind of stagnant here and not really anyone adding anything new.

I know I am just as guilty but really without more of a clue who question marks person is or a flip of said person I really don't have much more to offer. I know I caught the person twice in a row doing an action. But I dont know who the person is. My gut says this person did the kill the last two nights for the scum team, but even that is not set in stone.

Being a one target monitor is a crappy PR to have :(
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Post Post #4750 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:58 pm

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The problem is if you want Pere to get loud its most likely not going to happen except for spurts of activity now and again. He is for the most part always gone on weekends and even in the week super busy so does not post much. Which is a shame because when he is town and he does post, he provides some real clarity in games. He is an easy mislynch when he is town because of activity level and often gets mislynched on weekends even though he states he is almost never online on weekends.

I have never asked, but I assumed he only has access when he is at school or work and does not have internet at home and that is why weekends are permanent vla.

On the other hand he also pulls scum sometimes.
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Post Post #4778 (isolation #43) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:25 pm

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I am fairly busy with work stuffs, and really I have nothing more to add, I have given my scum reads, and town reads, I have given what info I get from my PR, such as it is. What more do you want mcmenno?

I feel like we are just sitting here twiddling our thumbs and other than momo who replaced in for postie just going in circles.

I would like to hear more from momo though/.
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Post Post #4791 (isolation #44) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:23 pm

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Dave I did not say more from momo would be town or scum. I said I wanted more from momo. I found postie a bit hard to peg down and I want momo to clarifly the slot more for me.
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Post Post #4795 (isolation #45) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:40 am

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there there oh great modly one.
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Post Post #4797 (isolation #46) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:57 am

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The game has stalled to give momo a chance to post, plus pretty much everyone is waiting for a lynch and flip. Plus some are just being lurkers.
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Post Post #4816 (isolation #47) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:19 pm

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dang that sucks replace in just to die in the night?


well lets get the killer mr or ms question marks

once again did an action last night brazen person since I always see that action.
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Post Post #4822 (isolation #48) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:28 am

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ugggh I have been sick

Dave flipping town really has me questioning all my reads. uggh I really thought he was scum and had said so several times in the banter PT.

I am going to take a look at lynch wagons, see if I can find some patterns there.
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Post Post #4847 (isolation #49) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:45 pm

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uggh

I am really at a loss here. Cass is right we need some new discussion that actually helps us figure out the scumz because so far we are batting zero.

And yes the fact that so far no one else has piled on to Cass but momo refuses to consider with lylo they could all pile on, does not make me feel good about momo
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Post Post #4915 (isolation #50) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:19 pm

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I am happy with voting momo but I want to see more from others.
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Post Post #4923 (isolation #51) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:46 am

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was already scum reading the slot which is why I wanted more from momo to see if I was right on that slot, so far he has not made me think it is a town slot.
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Post Post #4927 (isolation #52) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:02 pm

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we got like 8 days before DL
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I have been really sick with fever, chills and other such wonderful symptoms so not upto posting much, and I am terribly behind on work stuffs.
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Post Post #4951 (isolation #54) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:54 pm

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why are we being mass prodded?

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Post Post #4952 (isolation #55) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:56 pm

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something besides oh cass is scumz we got that you think that. But I am not seeing anything else from you and that makes me think you are scumz, especially since cass is one of my strongest town reads not only from play here in the main thread but how she has responded in our PT.
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Post Post #5029 (isolation #56) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:03 pm

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For Eddie I did claim and Cass you should have mentioned that TOO in your comments especially since I claimed to FA, your pred, in the Banter PT as well.
In post 4373, RachMarie wrote:uggh why so much AtE if you are lynchproof nancy? Why not prove it to us and move on

I am not buying the claim. I feel those who disappeared and came back are town, and yes part of this is because of the pt with cass who I was already town reading when FA had the slot. It was the FA I first saw in Mastins crazy game before she was culted. After that I knew she was different but could not convince enough others even though as Nicholas I was practically an Innocent Child along with my gf Alexis with the cause to win it for town and us oddball 3rd party folk with getting the treaty through.

Which I DID.


Trying to scum read me on activity level is pretty lame too, Anyone who has played a lot of games with me knows my activity level depends on whats going on in RL And I was on a VLA when the day ended so abruptly. So yeah Im playing major catchup


Also I am a flipping PR lame though it may be. I am a hunter (basically a modified monitor with only one target allowed) I caught my target doing an action. Unfortunately I can't pick my target I always have the same one. A bunch of question marks. I have a passive too where basically as long as the question marks person is alive, even if I die via lynch or NK, I stay alive as basically a tree stump. If question marks dude or dudette dies I die for realz.

Oh and Im Maestro

There claim and info

You need to figure out who question marks dude or dudette is. I am town.


I also have a lot of work right now because I am setting up 3 PLR product launches back to back to back with a joint venture partner so I can get together the money I need to move this summer to Buffalo, NY and get out of the South for good. So if you expect me to have the rabid level of activity I had in some of the other games, forget it. This move means the world to me for so many reasons and I have to make it happen.


I think Dave is scum I think Nancy is scum


Infin is conf town
Cass is a town read as well
Pere is always fairly inactive but since the bubble members say he is town I will go with that
Also feel that Jae and Math (whom I have been in a few games with, mostly math though) are town
In post 4374, RachMarie wrote:Night 1 No action

Night 2 Action

to make sure its clear.
In post 4496, RachMarie wrote:got the result once again question marks did an action last night

so he or she killed someone again.

uggh this is frustrating not knowing who this person is.
In post 4545, RachMarie wrote:I took light because though a weak investigative role I felt it was the one that was best to help town out of all three choices.

So yeah there you go Im light. I did not realize though my monitor would not be something I could target but only tell me the results of one specific player. That kind of sucks :(

Night 1 question marks had no action
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Post Post #5030 (isolation #57) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:04 pm

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Question Marks dude or dudette is scumz and I want him or her hanging from a rope ASAP he or she is clearly doing the killing save for N1

how much simpler can I make it?
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Post Post #5032 (isolation #58) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:26 pm

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I was already town reading yume because of the vote thingy. It is nice to seem someone who is active filling that role though.
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Post Post #5039 (isolation #59) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:05 am

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Hes right in LYLO we need a mass claim

Of course if question marks dude or dudette wants to confess he or she has been killing peeps every night but N1 I would be happy to lead a lynch on that slot :P
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Post Post #5046 (isolation #60) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:39 pm

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I am not a tracker I am a monitor and only have one target who is question marks, I wish I was a tracker with full ability to pick my own targets uggh.

In other words I get to know if the question marks person does an action or not but that is all I get :(

Plus of course once I get that person lynched I lose my invulnerability but I dont care about that if I get the person killing us off lynched.
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Post Post #5055 (isolation #61) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:12 am

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Im not one for gambits much TD and he or she did an action on n2 and every night since.

I won't deny my PR is pretty much useless.
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Post Post #5059 (isolation #62) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:52 am

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yes guestion marks did an action on N2 and every night since Only night he or she did not do an action was N1.
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Post Post #5079 (isolation #63) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:29 am

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or infin but he was already confirmed town so yes I am town reading you and cass

Cass was in the bubble N2, no way she could be off killing someone.

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Post Post #5086 (isolation #64) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:11 pm

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Cass we just proved you can't be the question marks person and that Pere can't be either. Since both of you were in the bubble on N 2, and question marks did some killin on N 2.
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Post Post #5089 (isolation #65) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:49 pm

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That is good enough for me

VOTE: momo

This should put him at L-2 I believe.
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Post Post #5090 (isolation #66) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:51 pm

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I don't trust a thing Nancy said or did not after the stunt she pulled, TD.

But I do know Cass did not pull the trigger nor did Pere, someone else did. They were both in the bubble on N2 and I know that question marks did an action that night.
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Post Post #5119 (isolation #67) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:59 am

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no one died that is awesome

BTW momo was question marks dude YES I got the notification question marks was gone and I no longer have my um protection so to speak. So no more ability to be a stump, but to get the guy who killed all but one of our townies is worth it yes!

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Post Post #5120 (isolation #68) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:03 pm

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Feel pretty good about Eddie now Especially since momo had a vanity wagon on him and earlier on Cass.

Not sure who did the killin on N1 though, so makes me think there was some shenanigans that ,made it so Momo continued to do the killin not sure why he kept up after I caught him and claimed though?
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Post Post #5125 (isolation #69) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:11 pm

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Don't be doc fishing

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Do you really think that both Cass and Eddie as both being scum would vote for a scum budz instead of helping us get someone who is not scum and win the game yesterday with a perfect scum game?

How does that make logical sense?
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Post Post #5131 (isolation #70) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:17 pm

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right I forgot about them


Still why would scum Cass and Scum Eddie plot the demise of their very successful killin machine momo if they could have gotten a townie mislynched and won the game yesterday?
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Post Post #5132 (isolation #71) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:17 pm

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Did TD actually claim yesterday I will have to go look
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Post Post #5139 (isolation #72) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:24 pm

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In post 4982, TiphaineDeath wrote:I got some work to do but I'll go ahead and drop this first. I am a non-consec-target Jail-Keep.

N1 Mariar
N2 Nancy
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Pedit: Fuck you calling me incompetent. In a game that is literally based on words, psychology, and manipulation, when you begin to call someone scum, you have, period. You are putting pressure on them, beginning a wagon. There are no half votes, no DPS or aggro or any of that other shit. Pressure is pressure and it's all about using the form that works to get done what you need to get done. Soft pushes often create MORE effective pressure than hard pushes for people who are good at using I know how to play this goddamn game kid, don't start talking theory with me.

You claimed JK which means you do not get an innocent or guilty.

Is there a possibility that Eddie is the last scum? Because if there is more than one, then his budz would have shot someone last night.

Since I presume what you meant was you jailed Eddie, then I will put my vote there but I want to hear from others, especially since you are so sure Eddie and Cass are a team together. In fact, knowing you had already jailed Cass, it would make sense for Cass to do the shot because it was kind of obvious you wanted to jail Eddie and you had already jailed Cass.

Something is not adding up, I have been JK with multiple scum left its not that easy.
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Post Post #5141 (isolation #73) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:26 pm

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I am not denying Eddie I am trying to figure out why Eddie's scum budz did not put in a shot last night.
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Post Post #5142 (isolation #74) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:27 pm

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Well I am not 100% sold you are town dude, but I find it hard to believe that Cass is scumz with Eddie and did not shoot last night to try to clear Eddie.
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Post Post #5147 (isolation #75) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:33 pm

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good scum play last night would have been to take a shot with a scum Eddie being targeted by a JK.

Not only because most of the time it makes no sense not to shoot any chance you can, but because by shooting it would have cleared a scum Eddie, that is why I have problems with TD's reads
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Post Post #5155 (isolation #76) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:38 pm

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also there is the mod verifiable vote thingy Would the mod have given such a PR to scum to be able to pick someone to give over his or her vote to?

But it is mainly the fact that TD is so sure it is Eddie AND Cass that has me concerned. Why would Cass not kill to try to convince us that Eddie was clearly not scum in that situation?

I want to hear from Pere especially atm He was the one who pointed out that Cass, Infin, and he were unable to do actions on N2 because of the bubble. Which is what made me realize that momo had to be the one doing the killin which meant he was question marks and I was right on that.

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Post Post #5157 (isolation #77) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:39 pm

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uhh you already had claimed you jailed Cass, I thought you could not repeat jail peeps?
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Post Post #5165 (isolation #78) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:56 pm

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you did? I missed that I thought you could not repeat

Still how come the other scum did not shoot?

Believe me I have tried that JK gamble before and invariably scum kills someone. The one exception, Pere was in that game, where we had no kills from the scumz for days on end and it was very frustrating. It was role madness and we actually had a person who was not a real person being played by one of the heads of one of the hydrae in the game, homestuck mafia. I think narna was in that one too.

At one point I went insane and yelled and screamed at someone I thought was a newbie then apologized to said newbie, to find out at the end of the game it was a non existent player.
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Post Post #5298 (isolation #79) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:57 pm

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Sorry work stuffs and leg stuffs and now landlord is being an absolute dick


Put me on V/LA for a few days til the 7th I will keep up as best I can for any deadline.
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Post Post #5300 (isolation #80) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:56 pm

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i guess you missed the part I can no longer be a tree stump?

We lynched momo who was question marks dude I did my part
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Post Post #5303 (isolation #81) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:13 pm

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I am just thrilled we caught the guy who killed all the townies from N2 on thats all :P
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Post Post #5313 (isolation #82) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:23 am

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N1 the slot did no action

i caught the slot doing the kill on

N2 (this one cleared Pere and Cass from being the killer because they were in the bubble)
N3
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Day 5 we lynch momo aka question marks dude
Tnen N 5 no kill
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Post Post #5314 (isolation #83) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:23 am

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That help Pere
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Post Post #5317 (isolation #84) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:30 pm

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So you were the one who made Banter?
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Post Post #5332 (isolation #85) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:14 am

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no but I was told I could not pick my target and that I had the same one all the time. As long as that slot was alive if I died, I would come back as a stump. However if said slot died I would truly die.

I am Maestro of the light. I picked light because of the three an investigative even a weak one sounded better for town than the other two choices. I did not realize though I would not be able to pick my target my bad for not reading it more carefully but it was a pretty complex role PM.

The other thing is like question marks I would have flipped without my info other than I was with the academy. So you all would not have seen that I was Maestro. I did not mention that before because my focus was finding the killer.

Obviously others on the scum team can kill since on N1, someone else did the kill.

My thing is we all know yume is a classic lurker yet she did do the heal hurt thingy and it was verified by the mod in the votes. We are in LYLO and it still is in effect, so those who are saying Eddie has to be scumz explain why scum did not kill last night (other than Eddie), and why they have not piled on someone and Eddie then heal one of them to make it a double vote? They could win the game that way.

Instead we have everyone overanalyzing everything and it going as slow as molasses in January, that reeks of town not getting in and discussing things because they are gazing at their navel too much which often happens in LYLO

Narna should remember me sick as a dog voting for him stupidly and giving the game to the SK. In this case we have something more to work with since its not just a 3rd party we are looking for. I am concerned of something like that happening again though because eek deadline.

We need to be discussing this and be smart here or we will lose the game to the scum.
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Post Post #5334 (isolation #86) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:18 am

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Well he is able to give his vote to someone why would he pick people who are town instead of scum if he is scum?
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Post Post #5337 (isolation #87) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:39 am

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So then cass, since he has picked you and I, why is he buddying us so hard if he is scum Eddie as TD states? and why do you think TD is wrong about his jailkeep result?
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Post Post #5339 (isolation #88) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:49 am

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I am trying to get input from others as well to see if we can get a better handle on this game because if we do lynch correctly we may be in the same boat tomorrow.

It is an uphill battle and the number of players who are just coasting is not making it easy.
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Post Post #5350 (isolation #89) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:27 pm

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Pere and Nara were IN the homestuck game with me where as JK I pushed hard on people I jailed and we lynched them and bam every one of them turned out to be town, yet we still kept having no kills it was an insane game I know what it is like to be wrong as JK. Between Pere who was the town vig, and myself, we killed more townies than scum did, The final straw that killed things was that we had a guy who could loverize and double doc protect them for the night any two players he chose, a watcher, me the JK, and the scum stood no chance in the end, the four of us pretty much worked together in unsion.

So yeah I can see td being so sure he is right and still being town, I am not as sold either one of them is scum. I am trying to get more from everyone so I can analyze it and see where the patterns are.
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Post Post #5469 (isolation #90) » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:24 am

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uggh working on house and client work will get back to this game

I would be willing to NL btw

Narna you are used to me with lots of time on my hands style of playing :lol:

This is me when I am up to my eyebrows in work and dealing with a landlord I would not mind having someone kill off for me.
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Post Post #5525 (isolation #91) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:49 am

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Welcome to the game Wis


I am kind of here. Frustrated with the game like most people. Plus today I have to get a lot of writing done to make up for not getting anything but housework done yesterday due to stupid landlord saying he would be here yesterday, making me reschedule my wound care appointment (my legs are bad again, though so far no infection at least), and then he never showed up after all that uggh.

I can't wait til I am out of TN and in Buffalo, NY this summer where there is decent public transit and actual help for the disabled, this state sucks.

I am Maestro and I was a weak investigative role (only could do one target) a monitor, and my target was questions marks which was first Postie, then Momo who replaced in. That slot did the nk on nights 2 through night before last. Last night there was no kill. Another scum did the nk on N1 because I got a no action result on that night.

As long as momo was alive, if I died, I would have come back as a kind of tree stump. Now that he is dead, if I am killed, I will die too. My main purpose in this game was to monitor that role. I am of the light. My choices all were kind of lame, and I saw investigative, and really was not paying attention to the fact it was a very weak one nor did I realize I would only have one target and not be able to choose :(

Now there is more than one scum left. Yet TD is sure that Eddie tried to kill last night and was prevented by his JK.

Eddie can give his vote to a player of his choice (mod confirmed in the VCs), by saying heal, he can take it away by saying hurt.

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Post Post #5544 (isolation #92) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:26 am

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So basically those who are pushing Eddie really hard:

1. You think that Momo hard bussed his fellow scum mate?

2. You think Eddie gave Cass his vote and that Cass put both votes on Momo and you still think both Eddie and Cass are scumz?
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Post Post #5555 (isolation #93) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:35 am

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Why would Scumz Eddie give his vote to town Cass to help lynch momo their scumz killing machine?

As for the no kill last night there are a few scenarios:

1. TD is correct and though there are still multiple scumz, Eddie is scumz and tried to do the kill.

2. Eddie is town and was the target.

3. For some oddball reason Scumz did not kill last night (this might be to give credence to a scumz TD trying to get us to vote Eddie and win the game.
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Post Post #5557 (isolation #94) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:37 am

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With 4 scum in LYLO you get a TOWN player not your killing machine

You only needed ONE town player and boom 4 scum and the game is won.

Scum blew it badly.
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Post Post #5559 (isolation #95) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:38 am

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Stakes are high we screw up now, scum will win.

I am trying to figure out all the logic so we make sure we lynch scumz
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Post Post #5561 (isolation #96) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:40 am

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@ Wis you mean no kill, right? since last night there was no kill.
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Post Post #5563 (isolation #97) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:49 am

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uhhh did you miss that except for N 1 and last night Momo did ALL the night kills?
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Post Post #5595 (isolation #98) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:56 pm

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What part of I was a one target monitor did you miss Narna??????????????????


I watched Postie/Momo aka question marks, every single night until we lynched that slot.

N1 no action

Every other night they killed someone

it is not rocket science.
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Post Post #5818 (isolation #99) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:17 pm

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uggh you all hammered before I could get back to the game thanks all, meh

I actually was going to vote for narna because it did not feel like the narna I was used to. I was holding back because I still felt bad about voting for him in the wake game :(

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Post Post #5828 (isolation #100) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:20 pm

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I am sorry for not being more active but there have been a lot of issues with work stuffs, my stupid landlord, and being sick and my legs. I go tomorrow morning to get my legs rebandaged, and monday to see the doc. ( my landlord said he was coming by last Mon and then never showed up meh I can't wait till I move to Buffalo this summer).
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Post Post #5834 (isolation #101) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:22 pm

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Sorry Narna I still ♥ you though but you were scummy this time
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Post Post #5837 (isolation #102) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:23 pm

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At least I did manage to catch the question marks person that is something...

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Post Post #5842 (isolation #103) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:25 pm

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yeah I really thought he was scumz :(


Eddie good job on trying to turn that slot around BTW.
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Post Post #5847 (isolation #104) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:26 pm

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err Dave I meant ooops
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Post Post #5855 (isolation #105) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:30 pm

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Math and Titus are famous for being uber tunnely players, Cass.

What through me off on Pere later Wis, was the bubble thingy. I could not figure out how that helped scumz.
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Post Post #5858 (isolation #106) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:31 pm

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Yeah Cass you did a great job
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Post Post #5939 (isolation #107) » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:37 am

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FA you convinced me that your slot was town and that helped a lot with me working with Cass trying in our Banter PT to try to solve things.
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