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i mean i agree it's a bad case and i completely disagree with it
but idk maybe the logic makes more sense in his head?? i dont really associate kts with logical cases and he's not a lock townread but i'm willing to give him botd here
can you bms on which scumreads he would work as partners with? just so i can assess the validity for myselfi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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btw i'm supposed to pull all-nighters today and tomorrow so if you see me online send me something to rile me up kthx
i'd declare v/la but deadline so i'm just going to try to check in during the dayi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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rolecop only gets "vanilla" so you could be a goon
and a cop has a lot of better targets
so uh
can you go into why you think it's kts/alban/lyoni no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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for me at least it's more of a "status quo townlean" in that he's posting what i would normally expect from him as town and i'm just more interested in lynching other slotsIn post 1687, WhemePlay wrote:Has anyone said anything about why Dave is town?
titus interactions also read as town to me
the pyp in theme park is my meta reference for him
also my all-nighter is starting like as soon as i'm home which will be in like an houri no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i want to lynch alban still but im not comfortable with that scumread completely and want to sort other slots but davesaz doesnt rly interest me as one of those slots today
i.e. i might swing around to momo if i dont like his responses to my questions, otherwise i'll go back on albani no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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hey friends i have a split second hahahahahahahahahshhahdjjshskmsis2g
VOTE: alban
mechanically momo is better (i agree w dave) but bigger wagon i want 2 die
will try to keep an eye on the thread but dont expect heavily analysis until d2
momo who are you confident is town?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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2 votes > 1 voteIn post 1724, bangthemafia wrote:Wat bigger wagon you are talking about, Giga?
though now it's a different story i guess
dunno i'd only deadline lynch momo now i'm not sure if i like how the wagon grew but his reads feel uh... contrived? rather him than spade
like why us 3 momo? i get me i guess though i think thats a bad reason to tr someone at deadline considering we dont want to nl yet so really anyone should be jumping on a wagon not on a strong tr - but why tr dunn and me and not lyon?
btw i think bang's last post was town djsnendjfiebdbi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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actually this is the only momo vote i dislikeIn post 1726, davesaz wrote:VOTE: momo
Inviting an investigation tells me this is probably scum PGO. If not see my previous post for reasons.
pgo read seems like a stretch to me imoi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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part of me wants to ask for an extension but idk if i'll use it
ftr im still in c r u n c h t i m e mode irl so im not going to be useful until d2
if i need to move my vote and im online i'll help bc im not OPPOSED to momo i just dont like it as much
also l-2
i'll hammer i guessi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yeah i guess this is nothing penguinIn post 1758, momo wrote:u no what, i am done with this stupid game.
VOTE: momo
I will flip VT.
Transcend, I enjoyed playing with you.
as is the fact he was just flashwagonnedi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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we should be lynching on the wagon today imo. wagonomics make me think it's a two-scum wagon considering that whemeplay is conftown, I'm town, and that dunn and lyon are obvtown. kts/alban i think is an unlikely team but one of them (probably alban) is scum I think.
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that jump onto me for not liking the wagon composition was terrible so i want to start herei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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also fyi spade knows what schadd_ took now so the theory that he was scum baiting a watcher/rolefishing is dumb since he doesnt need to do much to figure that outi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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unless he took ub/rc but idc what it is i just wanted to point out this is likely the caseIn post 1799, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also fyi spade knows what schadd_ took now so the theory that he was scum baiting a watcher/rolefishing is dumb since he doesnt need to do much to figure that outi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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davesaz or spade?In post 1802, schadd_ wrote:he did what i think is fishing before any of the top 3 claimedi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yeah the townslip
i'll look again at spade but the only thing i'd call rolefishy that he did were his interactions with you and like
when you're that high on the draft (and if spade is scum he's the highest in the draft out of all scum) it's still pretty easy to figure out who has what via wagoning so i dont think direct rolefishing was necessaryi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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are you claiming scum with spade? thats common sense based on associativesIn post 1806, schadd_ wrote:
yikesIn post 1805, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:and if spade is scum he's the highest in the draft out of all scumi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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no it fucking isnt oh my godIn post 1809, schadd_ wrote:
the better question is areIn post 1807, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
are you claiming scum with spade? thats common sense based on associativesIn post 1806, schadd_ wrote:
yikesIn post 1805, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:and if spade is scum he's the highest in the draft out of all scumyouclaiming scum with spade
spade makes 0 sense as scum with you or titus???¿??? and you two are the only people higher than him in the drafti no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i dont think a spade scumteam kills whemeplay here btwIn post 1316, aronagrundy wrote:WhemePlay (6): bangthemafia, Transcend, PenguinPower, Dunnstral, Killthestory, davesaz
Spade_Ace (4): WhemePlay, alban, Titus, schadd_
also the whemepkat wagon comp has only 2 townie slots (dunn and trans)
this basicallyPrince Lyon wrote:§i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i mean i agree but idk tf what this townslip schadd is talking about is and i want to at least hear him out
has anyone actually picked watcher in this set-upPrince Lyon wrote:Actually maybe not? watcher fearsi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i'm at
{lyon, dunn} - locktown
{trans, schadd_, spade} - town (i think schadd_ pushes me harder this page as scum)
{kts, titus} - townlean (titus wagon i think was supported by the same ppl as wheme and momo plus myself and lyon, probably not scum)
everyone else is scummy unless i forgot someonei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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wouldnt doctor fears make more sense btwIn post 1817, Prince Lyon wrote:Actually maybe not? watcher fearsi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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also how do you guys feel about asking a vig to claim if they shot whemeplay?
like what if we have a doc/rb that stopped a kill...? everyone's assuming scumkill i just realized
oh yeah forgot about that; i want to know this tooPrince Lyon wrote:Dunn what are your thoughts on Alban?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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momo had weird reads, so i thought he was scummy but wanted his explanation
a bunch of slots then voted for him and none of them were townie so i started to dislike the composition
what doesnt make sense there??i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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not denying that but why is that scummy? i didnt like momo's posts but his wagon was bad, when that happens it's a natural response to waffleIn post 1837, PenguinPower wrote:Because it wasn't linear. You bounced between liking it and not liking it. I've already quoted the posts.
yesterday you were really assertive about not lynching him though iircDunnstral wrote:
Pretty neutral, I don't remember anything they've doneIn post 1828, Prince Lyon wrote:Dunn what are your thoughts on Alban?
I don't think I want to vote there over other peoplei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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sagely wisdom from kraska btw ive been using this as a fairly accurate scumtell latelykraska77 wrote:Also ep is guilty of trying to sell a case on giga
Giga can be really hesitant at times and is very transparent about her read changes
Scum always try to exploit this and write her off as an easy scum read....it's almost a scumtell at this point
ep was scumi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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explain? i can agree davesaz is scummy but I think schadd_'s argument was good enough for todayIn post 1846, Titus wrote:I like PP as town, particularly his reactions here.
I am willing to sheep on davesaz. I gotta be wrong somewhere.
we could also compromise on bang i guess but i think pp's push is worse and would rather vote therei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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why make an empty fos like this if you're not even going to explain what you're talking about.....In post 1845, davesaz wrote:Actually that's not true. Some of the "NKA" related posting is bogus. Not sure whose.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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A bit.In post 1851, davesaz wrote:Wouldn't hurt to think about what I said though. Is killing a tracker really that unusual?
When role =/= alignment and whemeplay was still mislynchable and there's 3 scum left it's not my first choice in kill
i get that you're busy but it'd be nice to say who specifically you dislike from that convoi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i dont get 1853
agree that davesaz is getting lynched at some point as a projected ml if he is town or is scum but like
¿¿?? voting him after saying that isnt jibing with me kts
like i feel like you're voting him out of... i guess obligation rather than actually scumreading him?
can you clarify for me? sorryi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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In post 1857, Killthestory wrote:
wrongIn post 1854, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i dont get 1853
agree that davesaz is getting lynched at some point as a projected ml if he is town or is scum but like
¿¿?? voting him after saying that isnt jibing with me kts
like i feel like you're voting him out of... i guess obligation rather than actually scumreading him?
can you clarify for me? sorry
im voting him because he's a very likely candidate for the nk but i guess i was pointing out the small possibility of scum pushing the easy ml on him after targeting the town tracker pr to force the mislynch after eliminating that specific pri no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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ok wait
so
davesaz is a likely candidate for a nk................................. and there's a small possibility scum are pushing him for the easy ml............... and that whemeplay was possibly killed to frame him....................
how does that transition to a vote on him
like your vote has way too much "he could be town!" but it also doesnt make sense from a scum perspective it's just incomprehensible to mei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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OH
ok that makes far more sense
but then that begs the question of like.... why point this out w/o letting things run their natural course to see if there's actually scum doing what you would do as scum?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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bruhIn post 1869, Transcend wrote:Tldr this day
what do u think of penguin and davesaz.......
i mean my instinct is that you pointing it out would make scum more concerned that someone is watching to see if the davesaz wagon grows too quickly or something and thus push another angle for today as a result? correct me if i'm wrongKillthestory wrote:it's not
with the pedit what do you mean? has scumreading that not worked out for you in the past? from your pov i think kts is a good fosdavesaz wrote:More things on the page before this, but here's part of my thoughts.
Town. This is in response to someone saying bad kill, will need to back up a page to see who.In post 1825, Prince Lyon wrote:Fair enough though. Maybe they just wanted to kill the tracker anyway.
Scum often downplay the kill choice. But KTS talks like this a lot so it's weak.In post 1827, Killthestory wrote:idk that was a terrible kill bc it was such an easy mislynch
Town thought process.In post 1829, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also how do you guys feel about asking a vig to claim if they shot whemeplay?
like what if we have a doc/rb that stopped a kill...? everyone's assuming scumkill i just realized
oh yeah forgot about that; i want to know this tooPrince Lyon wrote:Dunn what are your thoughts on Alban?
Pedit: KTS talking this angle makes me think he's trying to talk town into mislynching me. But I have a known soft spot for scumreading people who do that, so I don't trust it.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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im not playing both sides??? i'm trying to understand your thought process
i tr you but i cant grok your mindset
by saying you're a good fos from davesaz's pov that means that his points against you at least are coherent - says nothing about anyone's alignmenti no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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