Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 37

• Grendel
  ------- 3 ( Darklyn, Green Crayons, Transcend )
  L- 3
  
  
  nancy
  --------- 2 ( Rileycountant, momo )
  L- 4
  
  
  momo
  ---------- 1 ( Fro99er )
  L- 5
  
  
  Green Crayons
  - 1 ( Titus )
  L- 5
  
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ---- 4 ( nancy, Grendel, Hiraki, JaeReed )

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-04-01 18:00:00)

Grendel is on V/LA till 3/22/17

[Hiraki]

Grendel scum is probably one of the most convincing arguments for nancy scum so I'm going to back-out of what I said earlier in trying to go through Riley's case.

[Fro99er]

That makes no sense.

[JaeReed]

Yeah Hiraki just jumped in suspicion.

[Rileycountant]

@Fro99er: I stand by my initial defense of Grendel. Yes, I was wrong, but my reasons were definitely right. The case against her was garbage and people were voting her based off what is essentially gut without explaining their reasons.

As for how this changes my reads: to a large extent, the previous reasoning was still there: nancy is still a deceptive scumbutt, Transcend is still town for the mind meld and so on. I'm townreading Titus a bit more because she chose to go for the Grendel wagon when she was talking about scumreading GC earlier(which would've been an easy way for her to justify jumping on him instead). I'm townreading momo a LOT more because that seems like textbook pocketing behavior, and I don't see that as scum defending each other.

[Hiraki]

I can explain, if you want? Would be lengthy.

[JaeReed]

nancy doesn't bus so...

[Hiraki]

Is that a meta thing?

[Hiraki]

Actually no, not important. Most of the evidence is on Grendel's side.

[Rileycountant]

UNVOTE:

[Hiraki]

For example:

Nancy has been looking a lot like last game sans that stuff that caused me to hard town read her.

Early in the day I thought Nancy vs Transcend had a lot of scum-scum interactions.

These two statements are in the same post.

Additionally, if you look at Grendel's reads-list:

Momo Fro99er Rileycountant Hiraki RadiantCowbells nancy ThinkBig GreenCrayons Transcend JaeReed hapahauli Darklyn

Nancy is no. 6. However, before this, nancy is the player that Grendel has discussed with the most and has already claimed a pretty solid TR on. Instead of getting a green text, she's now yellow. This fits in with not making a splash more than follow-up reads.

Nancyscum also makes sense given the RC death theory. Either she's being framed really well right now or there's a little bit more than coincidence here.

[nancy]

OH LOOK EVERYONE IS NOW CONSIDERING THE POE SCUMREADS THAT TRASHTIER NANCY CAME UP WITH WHILE MISINFORMED AND BEING FUCKING RUN OVER FOR NO REASON

[nancy]

I'm not leaving forever. I need to prioritize the rest of this semester of college. This has been the busiest I think I've ever been, and mafia just doesn't fit into my life like it would've several months to a year ago.

I'll be back for a few games in the summer time. Anyways tho, thanks for the concern.

<3

[nancy]

So it's probably Grendel, Hiraki, Rileycc then.

With GC and momo as tertiary candidates.

[nancy]

GC and Rileycc are unlikely to be scumpartners.

[nancy]

I don't get what the fuck Transcend is doing this game. He's literally just parroting Rileycc and has been since the start of the game.

[nancy]

momo and Hiraki seem somewhat unlikely and momo and Rileycc seem unlikely unless momo is trying to be like Vedith or something, but momo still looks likely with Grendel and GC as already stated.

[nancy]

Actually it's probably just Grendel, momo, Hiraki based on page 25.

Cool.

Tell me where to vote and whatever Mr Town Leader Dude Made of Green.

[nancy]

I just can't get over how deceptive and full of shit nancy is

Neither can I tbh.

[JaeReed]

nancy please lay shit out for me with quotes on why you think things are a certain way. I can't follow you rn and I want to.

[nancy]

How about this, we flip Grendel and if it's scum then we're both conf!town because neither of us bus. If it's Town then your scumlordiness is exposed in all its glory. I'm not going to believe you're Town in any other scenario after you flipped your read on me for bullshit reasons when I started trying to lynch Titus.

Textbook lining up lynches, btw.

[nancy]

Uh page 25 Grendel's readslist is 100% shit with momo somegodlyhow as the top TR and Hiraki as a TR and Hiraki doesn't even blink at Grendel

[nancy]

Not exactly the most thoroughly groked PoE but this is basically autowin?

[nancy]

We basically lynch Hiraki > Grendel > momo > Rileycc > GC and win at whatever point all scum are dead.

[nancy]

Scum are 100% bussing here btw after the mason claim so Hiraki saying Rileycc is scum!bad is no longer indicative of scum!Hiraki/town!Rileycc.