[Game Over] Newbie 1784 - Escape Room

[CogMachine]

@cog
What do you want to fight about?

Why do you want an easy lynch?

What made Pine compelling? Do you have any actual town reads?

1) I don't.
2) Pine couldn't defend himself.
3) still working on a list.

VOTE: Pine

Why vote Pine? He just got prodded.

It's easier to lynch someone when they are not around to defend themselves.

VOTE: Pine

Weird. Because what I'm hearing here is "I want an easy lynch". Specifically, a non-controversial lynch so that you can't be blamed for killing a townie!

Why is the fact that Pine couldn't defend himself good?

[Chronicle]

Have not finished catching up but

Not tracker

VOTE: nancy

[Chronicle]

Who do you think is scum? Why? Lots of town reads from you, lots of questions, but an interesting blank when it comes to scum reads. So if you had to lynch someone right now, who would you lynch?

nancy, pine, whymafia

Preference of lynch in that order

[Chronicle]

I will post better tmr, got some studying to do tonight

[Srceenplay]

@ Cog.
Didn't say it was good. I used it as a reason to vote.

[CogMachine]

@ Cog.
Didn't say it was good. I used it as a reason to vote.

So you voted for an easy lynch, which is a bad thing, because it was easy?

Does that sound like you're trying to kill mafia? Or does that sound like you're just trying to vote for someone no one will blame you for voting?

Because I know what it sounds like to me!

[CogMachine]

Who do you think is scum? Why? Lots of town reads from you, lots of questions, but an interesting blank when it comes to scum reads. So if you had to lynch someone right now, who would you lynch?

nancy, pine, whymafia

Preference of lynch in that order

Please explain what specific posts lead to your reads if at all possible. Since nancy is your strongest read I'm most interested in this.

What behaviors specifically make them scum?

Good luck studying!

[Chronicle]

Please explain what specific posts lead to your reads if at all possible. Since nancy is your strongest read I'm most interested in this.

I initially thought her to be town until the recent interaction with Noodle, then I rethought my read on her and waited for more content from her regarding the whole wincon argument

[Srceenplay]

@ Cog.
Didn't say it was good. I used it as a reason to vote.

So you voted for an easy lynch, which is a bad thing, because it was easy?

Does that sound like you're trying to kill mafia? Or does that sound like you're just trying to vote for someone no one will blame you for voting?

Because I know what it sounds like to me!

Lynch is not easy. He is still alive with no extra votes.

Can't killing mafia and "voting for someone no one will blame me for voting" be the same thing?

Are you trying to say Pine is not Mafia?

What does it sound like to you?

[Chronicle]

And with her stances on pine and noodle(disagree with both of them) as well as her recent reaction, it kinda reads as scum getting defensive.

[Chronicle]

Aside from that, I just don't wanna lynch outside that pool because I feel the rest of the playerlist are townreads of varying strength

[Chronicle]

I don't think a Pine lynch is the best lynch to do at the moment, though

[CogMachine]

@ Cog.
Didn't say it was good. I used it as a reason to vote.

So you voted for an easy lynch, which is a bad thing, because it was easy?

Does that sound like you're trying to kill mafia? Or does that sound like you're just trying to vote for someone no one will blame you for voting?

Because I know what it sounds like to me!

Lynch is not easy. He is still alive with no extra votes.

Can't killing mafia and "voting for someone no one will blame me for voting" be the same thing?

Are you trying to say Pine is not Mafia?

What does it sound like to you?

I dunno if pine is mafia. He's said jack shit basically. What I do know is that you didn't actually want to lynch him because he was mafia. You wanted to lynch him because he couldn't defend himself.

I mean, you're the one who said it was easier to lynch people who don't fight back, not me. You're also the one who voted for someone because they couldn't defend themselves! Which is a mafia thing to do! You even started justifying a myslinch preemptively with the whole "better a lurker than active town"

And at no point did you argue that Pine was mafia. Rather you argued that lynching an inactive townie was better than lynching an active townie. You know, as if you had some kind of... confirmation bias?

Like, let me be clear, you voted to kill someone without making an argument as to why they're mafia, and when asked why, said that it was because they were an easier lynch than other people. That is not the mindset someone who is town has. Hell, there's a number of ways a townie would have phrased lynching an inactive player, and you didn't hit on any of them.

You're mafia. If you're not mafia, then give me a good argument why Pine should die, since you seem so dead set on it? Make it convincing, because I'm fairly certain you're mafia.

How do you feel about nancy?

[CogMachine]

And with her stances on pine and noodle(disagree with both of them) as well as her recent reaction, it kinda reads as scum getting defensive.

Interesting, I'm not reading it the same way at all.

What do you think about Srceenplay? Do you disagree with my assessment of him?

[Srceenplay]

@cog
I'm not deadset on Pine. Where did you get that idea from?
Is this better?

VOTE: Nancy

L-2

[WhyMafia]

@srceenplay
If you could protect one person who would it be
If you could kill someone who would it be (daykill)

Protect myself
Kill pine.

That's susp in my eyes. Of all the people to kill, you choose Pine? So you feel he would provide js with the most info? L m a o
I personally don't find anything suspicious with loop apart from his advocacy with a pine lynch. I'm confused why people repeatedly ask me about him. Can someone explain to me what he did?

I feel like everyone who was in favor of a Pine lynch is pulling back after realizing that it went looking good. Why take a risk to kill an inactive who could be a power role when we could actively look for someone who is scum. There are other potential scum ..

[Srceenplay]

So, WhyMafia, you don't think Pine is scum?

[WhyMafia]

I have a slight suspicion on him, but nothing worth killing him over atm. His only posts of substance were defending Nancy early game. I would hope to think that he's too experienced to be the scum that lurks. Heck, he almost got replaced. There's no point in killing someone if we know little about them. We have a 7/9 chance of killing town after all

[StealthyNoodle]

nancy

@nancy how does claiming BP or not BP f up RVS?

Look at this thread for evidence. RVS has been stilted by the philosophical differences in your insistence that people claim and my refusal to claim. Discussing theory at this point is not at all conducive to scumhunting, which is what we should be doing and which is what RVS is designed to facilitate.

Ok, you're town. (Not just for this post, but this sticks out to me as a post no mafia would make)

nancy's simply stating that because

she

had another philosophy than the rest(and therefore refused to vote), the game was stalled.
is this your strongest townread of her?

Srceenplay

: Calling you out!

You're aware that lynching means you kill them of, right? This whole thing could just be a misunderstanding.

Yes.
Let's kill him.
Better than a possible mislynch of an active town. Can you agree with that?

This is a mafia argument. Period. It sets up "well at least we killed a lurker!" and "No one can be blamed".

I don't think it's much more than a simple vote, and his logic might be that he'd rather keep someone active, that he believes to be townish.

StealthyNoodle

: You're not very stealthy are you?

*noodles into hiding*

[StealthyNoodle]

Tes your profile pic gives me nightmares

It's just L eating a banana.

If you'd be inactive for 72 hours, you'd probably get replaced by someone like this:

Spoiler:

[nancy]

I'd like to see you try!

Stop pitying me, and give me your best shot. If I'm obvscum it shouldn't be hard at all. We all got into the game prepared to be lynched at first day. I won't be bitter, and I doubt the others will be either. Being an semi-experienced player, you know this - and tbh you're just making yourself more suspicious.

I'm not pitying you at all, ftr, I just want to let other people have their shots and don't want to dominate discussion. I've been too much at the center of the gamestate as it is and I'd prefer to let you guys interact with each other more. I've responded in a somewhat joking way ("come at me bro") to hopefully encourage others to pick at the situation. Basically the issue with your case on me though is that you're conflating a lot of non-scum-indicative things and trying to make a case for me being scum out of them.

[nancy]

And with her stances on pine and noodle(disagree with both of them) as well as her recent reaction, it kinda reads as scum getting defensive.

I don't get defensive as scum but which parts read as scum getting defensive?

[TesXX]

an

objectively obvscum slot

Then you should've claimed Investigates-in-pregame Cop.

I'm VT

[nancy]

an

objectively obvscum slot

Then you should've claimed Investigates-in-pregame Cop.

I'm VT

This kind of post is why I'm scumreading you, Tes. You haven't been involving in pushing the gamestate forwards at all, you haven't been scumhunting. You need to get involved in more than a superficial way and try and pick at people's arguments and find motivation behind what people are doing. Even if you're scum, you should be trying to practice those skills and not hide by cutesy posts like the above.

[StealthyNoodle]

Readlist - StealthyNoodle

Likely Town	StealthyNudes!
	WhyMafia, Loopdan
	TesXX, Srceenplay
Null	CogMachine
	Pine
	Chronicle
	nancy
Likely Scum