world.createNew(Utopia everHope); - EPILOGUE (GAME OVER!)

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:55 am

that is all I have to say for the rest of the Day everything else will be prod-dodges and I'm not moving my vote

maria, learn to play if you do it as town, you shouldn't, it's that simple, k? learn to play better if you really do do that as town, please

MathBlade · Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:56 am

In post 1994, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 1987, RadiantTroubadour wrote:Giga I'm going to ignore your read there because I'm super sure of what I last told you in thread.
sorry but i'm really sure about this

we can lynch clumsy today but gerry having shitty enough reads to think we'd be scum with maria is hugely town indicative

I townread Gerry pretty hard. Still working up patterns for Gerry but he feels similar to Civ. See I agree with Giga's reads a lot here.

Giga talk to me about Maria and Clumsy?

gerryoat · Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:56 am

In post 1992, RadiantTroubadour wrote:GERRY HAS CLAIMED SUPPORT FOR CLUMSY.

lololololol holy fuck, i literally can't see this post as town. you're fear mongering

RadiantTroubadour · Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:56 am

In post 1971, RadiantTroubadour wrote:As for why Clumsy is scum specifically? Let's take a look.

1) Almost nil game related content in their ISO.

There is a fuckton of active lurking, a fuckton of buddying, but almost no actual game related content in their iso. I'm going to go through the entire game and pin out the parts where they actually give thoughts on other people for alignment indicative reasons. It won't take long.

I'm not liking Rautherdir so far. His posts are coming off awkwardly. Anyone played with him before?
Iso #7 and he finally gives a read on someone and it's to call them 'awkward' then immediately ask for a second opinion.

In post 334, Clumsy wrote:Fair. I hate earlygame.

VOTE: Mariar
No opinion on the Maria vote.

All of these responses are terrible. It's an early wagon on day 1, and it's IMMEDIATELY AtE. I think my vote is staying here today unless I'm really convinced about someone else.
Clumsy knows that Maria is known for AtE, this isn't a thing.
And 'oh my vote is staying here unless I'm really convinced'? That's a scum qualifier, through and through. And do you really think town!Clumsy declares intent to deathtunnel this early?

drealmerz7 not doing anything day 1 is NAI. I'm a bit wary of Gerry here, but MariaR stands out the most.
why?

I really really don't like this post at all. Radiant, you've played with Maria before, I have not, you said the AtE isn't alignment indicative from them? That's still screaming at me.
Proxying their opinion on Maria's reads to me. The frequency of them doing stuff like this suggests that they aren't comfortable generating their own reads.
I further read this as an attempt to gauge my willingness to get back on the wagon to determine whether they want to stay there; regardless of Maria's alignment.
Note in spite of putting this as 'alignment indicative' it's only such in the absolute loosest sense because all he does is say that Maria's scummy because of AtE.

Wtf why are you claiming this? There's no reason to do so, you're just giving scum info here. If this is true, just wtf
This is a super, super, super hard buddy tell by the way.

In post 1335, Clumsy wrote:Wow.
VOTE: Coke and Pepsiman

Should be L-2 but I don't think anyone should care. I'm interested in the MariaR v Gerry, but we deal with this first.

That move makes Bulge town I think. I skimmed Kid's catchup, I like it but I have a bad habit of townreading catchup posts in general.
Been over this before but it's really dirty.
1) Frames the discussion to continue the Maria BS tomorrow.
2) Calls Bulge town for virtually nothing, no explanation. Gives a really qualified TR on Kid with a really weird qualifier that doesn't make much sense.

In post 1341, Clumsy wrote:So correct me if I'm wrong here, but the progression was "We're Masons", to "We have role flavor that confirms us as town together" to "We are Lovers"? Yeah no, that backpedaling is gross.
This was never ever backpedalling: even I agreed that Cloud didn't understand his role PM. even I agreed that he was town.
It's also really telling that his explanation of the scumread on Alihydra comes AFTER the fact of the vote.

In post 1399, Clumsy wrote:Anyone that isn't on the Pepsiman wagon: do you town read them? If so, why? If not, why aren't you voting them after fake claiming Masons?

Also I feel like half the game is missing.
Again he's framing this as 'LYNCH THEM FOR FAKE CLAIMING MASONS'. Fakeclaiming masons isn't scummy. AtEing isn't scummy. Ali was scumread for their behaviour not the claim and it's a really scummy way to dumb down the discussion and reduce it to a sound byte. It reminds me of JJD in 1875 pushing on me for 'claiming cop D1' while ignoring the complexities.

If we have a vig, can they shoot either BTD6 or Pine please? I love Pine, but they've been doing nothing in games lately, and in Darkest Dungeon where he seemed to start this, his slot was scum. Makes it hard to read him. Rauth, where are your thoughts with the game right now? Have a better vote than no lynch?
Also want to point out that he, in reaction to a vig being brought up, immediately tries to leash it onto lurkers.

Math, can you talk to me more about RT? I've been townreading them, and I don't have experience with Gigabyte (that I know of at least). Is your opening post about them all you're going on?

Also, are you sure about Maria? I was told this play was normal and town from someone (on mobile or I'd check)
Again trying to proxy their read out and use Math as an excuse to change their read on me.

In post 1861, Clumsy wrote:The RC reaction seems really over the top and unwarranted. Math hasn't done anything to slight him in this game. I don't get it. -shrug-

We seem to have quite a few players that seem to not be here. I forgot some were in the game at all.

I'm reading through links right now, but I'm also cool with Maria wagon I think. Who was it that told me I was wrong with my Maria scumread Day 1? Why was that again?
Using a clearly NAI rant that was brought out by stuff outside of the game and was obviously so as an excuse to scumread us is awful.
Also feels like they're trying to tie me to Maria which feels really bad.

In post 1904, Clumsy wrote:
In post 1883, momo wrote:Hello, made myself some popcorn and am ready to play.

So I see my slot has never had a vote on them..Any reason why.

Also, I am going to do an ubiased vca...
Pine was completely MIA this game, and Day One was... a thing.

In post 1898, Zachstralkita wrote:~My case on Kid will come tomorrow or something.
Looking forward to this case.

In post 1891, MathBlade wrote:Because MariaR has a defined tell which I outed and arguments for Clumsy scum rely on a bus so then MariaR has to be scum for Clumsy in those arguments to be but MariaR Clumsy Town can be a thing.

KidAmn read is now null scumlean
I'm gonna need explanation on that Kid read.

I'm not completely seeing the Scum!RT case here. I believe MariaR has 3 or 4 on her right now.
VOTE: MariaR
Wagon on me dies, jumps on Maria with minimal explanation.

Clumsy wall. now lynch him.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:56 am

In post 1998, RadiantTroubadour wrote:DREALMERZ IS SCUMCLAIMING BY REMOVING CONTEXT. MARIA WOULD OBVIOUSLY SELFVOTE REGARDLESS OF THEIR ROLE AND WE'RE NOT LYNCHING THE DOC CLAIM.

you need to learn to play better too then because if you're town with this mentality all you do is serve anti-town and scum agendas wit hthis shit

I'm tired of the constant shit town play around here

learn to play better or die

MariaR · Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:56 am

In post 2000, drealmerz7 wrote:that is all I have to say for the rest of the Day everything else will be prod-dodges and I'm not moving my vote

maria, learn to play if you do it as town, you shouldn't, it's that simple, k? learn to play better if you really do do that as town, please

This is the most ironic post you have made ever well done.

RadiantTroubadour · Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:57 am

Gerry claimed to support lynching Clumsy but every time I have asked him to he has deflected or changed the topic.

When Clumsy flips scum they are going to be an auto lynch

gerryoat · Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:58 am

i think dreal is town based on meta, honestly.

RadiantTroubadour · Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:58 am

Clumsy is scum and Maria is town.

Maria's emotions here are 100% genuine and her wagon keeps getting traction easy. Either she's constantly powerbussed by obvtown gerry or she's just town

rc's case is basically how i feel about clumsy

MariaR · Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:58 am

I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style

RadiantTroubadour · Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:58 am

Giga you underrate associatives

gerryoat · Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:59 am

maria is mafia with clumsy. i think maria is an important maf PR based on posts. it's that simple

RadiantTroubadour · Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:59 am

In post 2009, MariaR wrote:I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style

Vote Clumsy then.

MathBlade · Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:59 am

In post 2007, gerryoat wrote:i think dreal is town based on meta, honestly.

Agreed gerry.

Dreal Gerry town block?

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:59 am

In post 2009, MariaR wrote:I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style

YOU DON'T MIND BEING LYNCHED AS THE FUCKING DOCTOR?!?!?!?!?!

BULL FUCKING SHIT, YOU EITHER SHOULD CARE, OR YOU SUCK AT THE GAME IN THIS ASPECT

EITHER WAY, LEARN BETTER, OR DIE, SCUM, K?

MariaR · Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:59 am

In post 2012, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 2009, MariaR wrote:I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style
Vote Clumsy then.

I was voting clum before you all thought it was cool
VOTE: Clum

gerryoat · Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:00 am

In post 2009, MariaR wrote:I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style

why would you be ok getting ml'd as DOC. i understand maybe another PR. but Doc is literally one of the most important roles. who were you on n1?

MariaR · Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:00 am

In post 2014, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2009, MariaR wrote:I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style
YOU DON'T MIND BEING LYNCHED AS THE FUCKING DOCTOR?!?!?!?!?!

BULL FUCKING SHIT, YOU EITHER SHOULD CARE, OR YOU SUCK AT THE GAME IN THIS ASPECT

EITHER WAY, LEARN BETTER, OR DIE, SCUM, K?

I ask you please don't talk to me and stop insulting me before I say something I regret

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:01 am

In post 2007, gerryoat wrote:i think dreal is town based on meta, honestly.

I think you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, honestly

maria, I'm insulting your play, YOU SUCK AT THE GAME IF YOU SELF-VOTE AS DOC

RadiantTroubadour · Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:01 am

WE ARE A 1-SHOT PARITY COP AND MARIA AND GERRY SHARE ALIGNMENTS.

WE ARE

MathBlade · Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:01 am

In post 2014, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2009, MariaR wrote:I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style
YOU DON'T MIND BEING LYNCHED AS THE FUCKING DOCTOR?!?!?!?!?!

BULL FUCKING SHIT, YOU EITHER SHOULD CARE, OR YOU SUCK AT THE GAME IN THIS ASPECT

EITHER WAY, LEARN BETTER, OR DIE, SCUM, K?

Drealmerz chill. Seriously I townread you but please don't all caps the thread.

Your message will have the same weight as caps or with proper capitalization.

I agree and I think MariaR is scum.

RadiantTroubadour · Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:01 am

WE ARE A 1-SHOT PARITY COP AND MARIA AND GERRY SHARE ALIGNMENTS.

WE ARE LYNCHING NEITHER TODAY.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:02 am

fuck, you suck at the game hard if you self-vote as town

but as doc, you're fucking abominably atrocious

MariaR · Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:02 am

In post 2016, gerryoat wrote:
In post 2009, MariaR wrote:I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style
why would you be ok getting ml'd as DOC. i understand maybe another PR. but Doc is literally one of the most important roles. who were you on n1?

It doesn't matter who I was on n1 that's just getting into who I tr
My role doesn't matter people shouldn't unvote because I claimed fucking doctor you vote on reads not the role I self voted because I feel like the info people would've got from my lynch is much more important than one maybe doc save

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:02 am

seriously, if you're town, maria, go back to your fucking homesite and never fucking return