Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]
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UNVOTE: Whomever I vote
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Ok, I'm here. Guide me. What's important here?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Ok, I'm supposing no mason claim here right? If so, I'm going to hammer. That's the way this setup goes.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: hapahauli
I'm not dealing with toxic playing right now. If you're town and threatening to gamethrow, die. If you're scum, yippie.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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He's dead. You can tell us if we caught your partner now.In post 802, Darklyn wrote:I refuse to believe both horrordude replacing out and hapa giving up this easily is scum, no wayShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why are you acting as if you know hapa is town Darklyn?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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O.o?In post 928, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: momo
L2. Come talk I guess. I'm pretty much wanting to proxy my vote to mmmmm... idunno, Froggy and nancy can fight for my love. Trans is welcome to override and demand the sheep.
Preferred lynch is Grendel btw.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I am more surprised at JaeReed not pushing Grendel if he's preferred lynch.
Why is there a momo wagon? Why is Grendel scummy and not wagoned?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Not if it has zero chance of going to lynch.In post 936, Fro99er wrote:Then what's the fucking point in voting momo. The same thing happened yesterday
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Which is why I was asking.In post 937, Fro99er wrote:
why does that surprise you.In post 932, Titus wrote:I am more surprised at JaeReed not pushing Grendel if he's preferred lynch.
Why is there a momo wagon? Why is Grendel scummy and not wagoned?
I really don't think town just says "X is my preferred lynch but I'll vote Y" so blatantly.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 934, Fro99er wrote:Grendel is a scumfuck. I want Grendel to give reads on people other than myself and dark. With reasons for those reads.
You going to tell me why? Or am I just waiting for Grendel to get on?In post 935, Darklyn wrote:
Grendel will have a wagon at some point todayIn post 932, Titus wrote:I am more surprised at JaeReed not pushing Grendel if he's preferred lynch.
Why is there a momo wagon? Why is Grendel scummy and not wagoned?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Ugh, what post ranges?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Like you know I don't read. *side eye*ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I don't. I like real time interactions to sort.In post 948, Darklyn wrote:Read the game and form your own opinions
@Frogger, it's an annoyance emotion. Must have come out wrong.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Nah, I can already tell this isn't SU frogger.In post 954, Fro99er wrote:
sorry,In post 952, Titus wrote:@Frogger, it's an annoyance emotion. Must have come out wrong.
I thought it was more like the "I got my eye on you" thing
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Grendel's reads suck. Noted. But why does Grendel shoot RC?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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True or False Frogger?In post 957, JaeReed wrote:
He had a typo there, he meant to say "I really don't think scum just says "X is my preferred lynch but I'll vote Y" so blatantly."In post 939, Titus wrote:
Which is why I was asking.In post 937, Fro99er wrote:
why does that surprise you.In post 932, Titus wrote:I am more surprised at JaeReed not pushing Grendel if he's preferred lynch.
Why is there a momo wagon? Why is Grendel scummy and not wagoned?
I really don't think town just says "X is my preferred lynch but I'll vote Y" so blatantly.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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True but humor me.In post 963, Fro99er wrote:
i'm not worried about thatIn post 959, Titus wrote:Grendel's reads suck. Noted. But why does Grendel shoot RC?
scum!Grendel has two scumbuddies, ya knowShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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JaeReed, why are you voting momo?In post 966, JaeReed wrote:
I mean, weIn post 958, Darklyn wrote:
I laugh everytimeOf course hapahali x JaeReed x Darklyn is a team I ship.arevery likely on the same team.... Just, town.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I asked already. Can we skip the song and dance?In post 972, JaeReed wrote:I have something on c/p for when she presses me for it It'll give her an answer AND save her from complaining about it!
pedit I have wine! Ricadonna Asti!
I need sleep.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I like merlot.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I am going to bed. It's midnight.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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?In post 1074, Darklyn wrote:well there are two players but they seem a bit too obvious
There's a hidden dynamic that's confusing here.
VOTE: Grendel
I think this should get pressure too.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Still getting settled in but I think Grendel should be pushed given gamestate.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Grendel is SRed but counters keep appearing.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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It's a theory. I need to investigate.In post 1080, Rileycountant wrote:You're postulating that Grendel's scumbuddies are behind the counters?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why?In post 1086, Transcend wrote:Please stop with the distracting counter wagons to nancy
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UNVOTE: Grendel
There's two optimal plays but we lost 1.
The first, quick lynch and lynch anything that doesn't claim mason.
Second, let the masons pick the choices with everyone contributing unless they feel buddied/incapable.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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The only players that are impossible to be scum are the masons. I'm just rather annoyed at the claim situation at the moment.In post 1255, nancy wrote:Darklyn is apparently impossible to be scum according to Fro99er.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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GC, could be scum doing word vomit.
VOTE: Grendel
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You Grendel's buddy? Why you scared?
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Yeah, you just did word vomit attacking me while avoiding making any substantive comment on Grendel and argued me trying to sort JaeReed and Frogger as negatives?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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First, I am a she.In post 1300, Hiraki wrote:Also hate the Titus vote even more because he made a huge big stink about how we have two options to play now and then threw them away a second later.
Second, I didn't. I am voting with JaeReed and inviting Frogger's comment.
Why do you feel the need to fit facts to your theory instead of the other way around?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Not true. I own it. He caused me to hammer, but I feel it was the best thing for town.In post 1308, Rileycountant wrote:I could definitely go for Titus, I hated that hammer (deflecting responsibility for the mislynch) if nancy is not available
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I'd add GC but that looks like a good pool for Grendel's partners.In post 1364, Darklyn wrote:It's probably Riley, maybe HirakiShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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This is a good point though but my gut says no.In post 1360, Fro99er wrote:
this is the most damning reason though. 1062 posts in and hasn't tried to read Grendel, then doesn't make any effort to try to read Grendel after that.In post 1351, Fro99er wrote:
you didn't even try to read GrendelIn post 1062, momo wrote:I am not much of an expert of reading Grendel since this is my first game with him but he is town lean for me. This is mostly a gut read as I have not fully analyzed him yet but nothing strikes me too far off.
town you would be much more interested in sorting him.
and since you don't bus.....
This is scum realizing they don't want to give reasons to read their buddy, because they don't actually HAVE any good reasons to give a read one way or the other, since they haven't needed to read their buddy all game.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Practicality. Why would scum out their buddy or talk at all? Find scum, lynch scum.In post 1376, Fro99er wrote:Titus why would you rather lynch Grendel without searching for his buddy right now?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Ok, if both Frog and Jae feel that way, we'll keep going. I am not sure how fruitful this is and not how I'd play it (see Wake's role madness), but establishing a solid core is important.
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Yeah, did your IC teach you that lying as scum isn't a good thing? If not, they should have. I commented that momo and nancy being wagoned but them discussing higher scumreads on Grendel and was investigating. You even quoted the posts. What did you expect to accomplish here? Or are you just tunnelling me because your ass is dead?In post 1402, Green Crayons wrote:Still can see a Titus scum with Grendel scum. Came in, ignored momo wagon (obviously a point if momo flips), repeatedly asked conftown frogger permission to vote grendel, completely ignored nancy.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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It's been fun for what it's worth. See you around, I hope.In post 1406, Grendel wrote:Unless you guys choose to not lynch confirmed scum.
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That's probably true if momo = town. Momo!scum probably reacts the same way though.In post 1409, JaeReed wrote:Ok so there wasn't a clear counterwagon on momo for ages it looks like, with Grendel not voting. I expect scum with a wagon up to L2ish on his buddy there to place a vote (Titus, can you weigh in on that theory?).
I need to double check the timing but if I'm right there, that means that Grendel was most likely shooting for the towncred of correctly calling lynchbait and the pocket. Which would explain momo's subsequent gut town on him because he has been influenced by the defense.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I would presume more likely actually. But it's a wifom thing a bit. Partially depends on if the other wagons were viable/safe to vote.In post 1417, JaeReed wrote:Ok, preliminary thoughts are as follows:
Darklyn is almost certainly town.
I need to look over nancy's original push on Grendel again, if she was serious about lynching him coming into the day then she's as good as conftown to me.
Titus is very high confidence in being town here.
I need to review Hiraki, because D1 I thought he was a mason. D2 I thought Trans was a mason but I'm inclined to err towards RC's read on Trans considering how trash I can be at reading the dude now that I know RC was town. Need to look heavily at Rileycountant, momo, Green Crayons.
Titus, supposing momo!scum what do you think about the VC in 126? Grendel would be less likely to just park on a buddy there, right?
I think the right lynch for today might be between momo/GC? I don't think both of them are scum but I think it's very likely that one of them is.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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If you are yelling about your "gamesolving", you are either scum or doing something horribly wrong. Yelling rarely persuades anyone, but I think you know that. I am with Riley hereIn post 1456, nancy wrote:
HOLY SHIT GUYS GAMESOLVING IS ANTI-TOWN WHO EVER KNEWIn post 1453, Rileycountant wrote:
Yeah, but she had no way of knowing Fro99er was doing what he was doing when she pulled that shit. I'm not doing to praise anti-town play simply because it happened to not be trash by what is essentially luck.In post 1451, Darklyn wrote:Her play as pretty useful for Fro99er actuallyShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Trash tier is toxic language.In post 1491, JaeReed wrote:I'm not listening to you. You thought I was scum yesterday when you were being nonsensical and deserved my scumread.
I don't listen to trash tier.
Mother in law just got admitted to the hospital. I am going to be a little slow here. Bare with me.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'll do a vca asap though.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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That's not a proper vca at all.In post 1503, nancy wrote:VOTE COUNT 2 . 39
Grendel ------- 6 ( Darklyn, Green Crayons, Transcend, Hiraki, Fro99er, nancy ) Lynch
nancy --------- 1 ( momo ) L- 5
Green Crayons - 1 ( Titus ) L- 5
Not Voting ---- 3 ( Grendel, JaeReed, Rileycountant )
scumspects on: {GC, Hiraki}
scumspects off: {momo, Rileycc}
There's the VCA.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Arkansas, pointless word to control F to find VCs. Will look tomorrow
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For starters, unless the scumteam feels desperate, no votes on non Grendel people are likely buses.In post 1507, nancy wrote:I honestly don't see how you can do VCA on a confscum's wagon.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I really like nancy/GC for scum in this, eyeballing things
Grendel only votes GC when a major wagon appears with no counter. Hall mark distancing. He unvotes and gets serious when nancy is wagoned.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Metaaaaa I think is a waste.In post 1544, Rileycountant wrote:@Titus: I wish nancy was scum too so I can egostoke for the next 50 years about how I caught scum on p10; but to me the meta argument put forth by Jae is too compelling. Why don't you find it compelling?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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If nancy is town (meaning my eyeball theory wrong), it's probably Hiraki just trying to save GC.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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You used PoE in Double Day Unlimited.In post 1545, Hiraki wrote:I have nothing to discuss with the people who want to lynch me until they start bringing actual logic to the table instead of fallible PoE.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I think Green Crayons is better. GC has been tunnelling me since Day 1. Hiraki is my backup if nancy osn't scum. Much more confident on GC.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: Hiraki
Someone spoke. Bah.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Nah I am not in the place to argue mentally if either way we hit scum.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Ok with the prinicple, but I am very unlikely to go for fast night until my mom in law is out of surgery in a couple of days.In post 1585, nancy wrote:@Mod: Can we have accelerated night with consensus via PM?
pedit XDXD I'll show you when we hydra in TTH's gameShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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@nancy, VCA is my thing. I wrote an outdated guide on it.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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She does not. When I have clarity and time, I will explain.In post 1608, Rileycountant wrote:I don't know whether or not mastina does VCA right because I have never read a single post of hers in its entirety - they're just so long and tedious.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I don't feel as good about momo atm. Rather GC or Hiraki.
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