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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:31 pm

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“Fear doesn't shut you down; it wakes you up. I've seen it. It's fascinating."

VOTE COUNT
VOTE COUNT 1.15


[5] momo:
Not_Mafia, zakk, Srceenplay, PenguinPower, WhemeStar,
[2] zakk:
Mewtaph, Radiant Moonlight,
[2] Not_Mafia:
Ramcius, momo,
[2] Elena Fisher:
Nero Cain, Ircher,
[2] Radiant Moonlight:
BTD6_maker, Transcend,
[1] WhemeStar:
alban,
[1] Ircher:
Elena Fisher,
[1] rb:
Creature,

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rb, shos, Keyser Söze, Aristophanes,

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momo is the leading wagon. rb is V/LA for the next 2 days. His V/LA will end in April 8. BTD6_maker is V/LA until April 14th. Radiant Moonlight is V/LA until monday.

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(expired on 2017-04-19 00:05:00)
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:32 pm

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rb makes a fine lynch.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:46 pm

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VOTE: Creature

Better than Elena rn.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:10 pm

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In post 752, Ircher wrote:Better than Elena rn.
Why?
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:12 pm

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I think creature is town
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:29 pm

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In post 511, Creature wrote:I would nuke AMITY because it's composed of null and meh players.
Ouch!
We have feelings you know! :P
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:40 pm

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In post 534, Nero Cain wrote:anyways free town cred to the next 5 Keyser voters.
Vut your vote isn't on Keyser...and he doesn't seem scummy...

What are you even doing with this post?
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:42 pm

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In post 537, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Keyser

I'll sheep you Nero because I can't tell if he's scum or not.
In post 539, Radiant Moonlight wrote:VOTE: Keyser
Oh, it worked...

Inb4 one of these flips scum!
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:54 pm

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In post 554, Keyser Söze wrote:Hello, Aristophanes.
Your vote is still in RVS
. Are you trying to sort players in your faction PT?


You have offered two (town?) reads so far (two defences).

On momo:
In post 239, Aristophanes wrote:Because I've never not scumread him, which gives me pause when a wagon on him grown like this!
And WhemeStar:
In post 240, Aristophanes wrote:This whemestar fellow is clearly town tho. Why is this a wagon?
What are your actual thoughts on the arguments used against them? (Your thoughts on them concern only the speed/size of the wagon on them).
Hey Keyser! It's been a while!

Momo is a tough read and I legit always scumread them. Momo was more a moment of pause, but the more i read the morning ei think they may be scum.

Where is still likely to be town, and I've liked what they have posted thus far. Of course, a further analysis of both slots is required, but this is what I have atm.

Spoiler: Longass Keyser Post
In post 553, Keyser Söze wrote:
Investigation file: momo

In post 128, momo wrote:BTW, I started the wagon on Wheme as an rvs push. Why did people commit to it so hard??? I will be trying to find scum on that wagon??
My gut-read of this is still negative. The tone feels off. [Something petty: I didn't like his continuous use of multiple/excessive question marks ("??"), but he used them as town in our last game together, so less annoyed with them now]
In post 128, momo wrote:Also, Not seems very flip floppy, trying to please everyone. First he followed me on wheme and the followed wheme on me. Looks like he wants to please everyone so that he is not lynched.
I personally don't read flip-flopping behaviour as scum indicative during early/RVS D1 play. But ok, I can see why someone would scum-read that behaviour in isolation.
In post 131, momo wrote:
In post 129, Not_Mafia wrote:Okay momo is scum we can speed lynch this
Even more proof for my case....
Ok, potentially OMGUS-fueled reaction to Not_Mafia's wagon-pushing.
In post 137, momo wrote:Can somebody please tell me their thoughts on the case on Not??

It seems more solid than the nero one to me....
momo is confident on his Not_Mafia scum-case ranking it more solid than the scum-case on Nero Cain! Is this town-momo taking pride in his own scum-case on a player?
In post 146, momo wrote:Where is the town???????
In post 208, momo wrote:Guys unlike some of you people I am actively trying to solve the game. Not and Nero pushing the Wheme wagon that I meant as rvs strikes me as scummy. Thoughts on this????
Real or false frustration?

At the time of reading I thought all of this was scum-theatre (scum-distancing gone wrong).
In post 211, momo wrote:I would tell you to play to you wincon but your acting as if your wincon is mislynching townies.
Again, I don't believe the tone/sincerity of this post.
In post 221, momo wrote:Happy??????
In post 225, momo wrote:F U guys.

It is generally agreed by many people on this site (including Transcend) that I am lynchbait. So be smart and see past it...
Ok, the
'frustrated' element of his play is now raging up to boiling point
.
In post 435, momo wrote:VOTE: alban

alban just GAVE AN EXCUSE for mislynching townies

99% scum
"99% scum"? - I don't know about that. Alban did made a questionable decision to hunt for spammers rather then scum, but that is not a "99%" slam-dunk scum-catch.

What happened to your scum-feels on Not_Mafia, Nero Cain and Creature? (still strong?)



Thus, going back to Ircher's two statements:
"The Momo wagon is bad and you guys and gals know it" and "Because he has done nothing highly indicative of scum; he's lynchbait at worst"
...
True, I cannot find anything "highly indicative of scum". Most of my suspicion lies in the fact that I don't believe the tone of his posts as from a townie. momo has been pressuring/questioning players that I too do not town read (Not_Mafia, Nero Cain, Creature, alban), so perhaps my scum-theatre theory is making me blind to momo's actual reads (which are actually similar to mine, if not for the same reasons).
Re-reading his ISO, he doesn't look CAUGHT-SCUM anymore
. My remaining concern is:
is this 'frustrated townie' or 'fake-frustrated'?



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1) Has anyone seen TOWN-momo become this frustated before? (Even citing his own town-meta as a defence of being easy lynchbait).
2) Do you think momo taking pride in his Not_Mafia scum-case is alignment indicative? I.e is town-momo more likely to get disheartened if no-one is listening to him?
See what I mean, he's a hard read!
I have seen him get frustrated as town iirc. But momo doesn't get disheartened as town, he just makes more noise until people follow him or lynch him.

435 sucks ass, and makes it obvious Alban and Momo aren't scum together. Either could be though, and from what I have read of Alban, as much as they could be, I done think they are. Momo is far more likely to be scum.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:57 pm

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Shit, I forgot to address the first part.

Yes my vote was still RVS. Oh well? It will move, and us currently on nobody again. Did it do any harm there?

I said hi and nobody has responded in the Amity PT. It's stupidly quiet there.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:08 pm

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Looks like the wagons have stalled. It's going to be difficult to have 11 votes on one player. We can't have 11 people agreeing on something. Unless it was about US attack on Syria. If countries were playing mafia (which they fking do all the time), L would reach in a jiffy and US would be the D1 lynch.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:08 pm

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In post 522, Nero Cain wrote:
vote:Keyser
pls tell me more about how I wasn't voting Keyser.

But also, if you had THOUGHT that I wasn't voting Keyser and trying to get a wagon on him while not voting him wouldn't you know, think I was massively scummy for that?
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:12 pm

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Alban if lack of wagons bother you then blame these worthless sacks of shit.

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Though TBF, I should prob move my vote to Zakk as I'm not really thrilled with the company on Momo.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:13 pm

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vote: Zakk
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:14 pm

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In post 741, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm town, momo is scum
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:19 pm

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I am tempted to vote for Momo but it wouldn't be right before reading the last few pages, which I haven't.
tbh, I am not bothered by lack of wagons. Was just stating an observation. But usually a wagon close to the deadline goes all helter skelter, benefitting the skum, so you are right. I feel partly responsible for not participating enough, which will change over the weekend.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:21 pm

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I meant I am fully responsible for not particpating enough :) and partly responsible for the wagons stalling.

I am in a bit of a confused state, hence my statements sounding both 'either' and 'or'. As pointed out succinctly by Keyser.

I find Keyser a bit suspicious. Just a hunch. Not substantiated.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:23 pm

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In post 765, alban wrote:But usually a wagon close to the deadline goes all helter skelter, benefitting the skum
I agree with this.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:24 pm

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In post 762, Nero Cain wrote:Alban if lack of wagons bother you then blame these worthless sacks of shit.

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Though TBF, I should prob move my vote to Zakk as I'm not really thrilled with the company on Momo.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:25 pm

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YOULL SEE ME GET MY GROOVE ON I JUST GOTTA GET THROUGH DAY 1
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:25 pm

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not buts dog breath
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:25 pm

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In post 768, Transcend wrote:
In post 762, Nero Cain wrote:Alban if lack of wagons bother you then blame these worthless sacks of shit.

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Though TBF, I should prob move my vote to Zakk as I'm not really thrilled with the company on Momo.
but....
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:29 pm

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In post 771, WhemeStar wrote:Hah I didn't get put on the list but you did
TBF, the "list" is just the ppl sitting on vanity wagons/not even using their vote. I don't think your play has been good regardless of your alignment so you'd make any "bad play" list I'd make.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:29 pm

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In post 761, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 522, Nero Cain wrote:
vote:Keyser
pls tell me more about how I wasn't voting Keyser.

But also, if you had THOUGHT that I wasn't voting Keyser and trying to get a wagon on him while not voting him wouldn't you know, think I was massively scummy for that?
Oh. The VC in has you as not voting and I didn't see that, being bolded.

I never said it wasn't giving me a scumread, but I wanted to converse first. Obviously it doesn't matter now tho since I was incorrect anyway.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:30 pm

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Not Voting them*
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