DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O

[Infinity 324]

Fitz had a few points here and there plus gut and PoE for a scumread.

Why are you voting me?

PoE, you were obvtown in friends and enemies, plus the above point.

[Infinity 324]

So, here's the reason I didn't want to comment after fitz' first catch up post until he was done....while the posts have a decent amount of content and supporting links in them, it feels like he's supporting pre-existing reads, rather than forming them based on the points he's making. I didn't want to point that out before he was done, but rather see if his following posts were any better.

Scum have to choose who they're going to read as town or scum based on what content they can pull from in the thread, whereas town has to use what's presented to make their reads. If you look at his reads, there's very little progression, rather an initial read on each slot and then more evidence to support that particular read. The only place this doesn't match up is nancy/farside, but the read changes at the replacement entrance, which is a convenient place to do so.

VOTE: havingfitz

I believe that's

L-1

This is a good point and another example of shaddow thinking deeper than I remember him doing as scum.

[Commander Shepard]

@TWC

Which posts if any are mastina's?

[Commander Shepard]

Farside's opening I liked more - her tone is what stands out the most as being town from me, she doesn't match the conviction she feels as town as scum (or come anywhere near it), and I really liked her interactions with AC - the initial pushes of "you're a better player than this, town you is X and X and X" is something that felt very generally and is coincidentally something I've seen her push elsewhere as town, and the unexplained backoff of the read strikes me as a move she's very unlikely to make as scum regardless of AC's alignment (simply because it stands out so much) but seems like a perfectly understandable move as town.

So in my head

This post reads TWC + AC actually trying to buddy Farside.

[Commander Shepard]

Infinity, who are your top three scumreads again?

Wraith, prism, and fitz. Though I'm starting to doubt prism.

I should really catch up in order

Do you think Wraith is bussing here?

I find it horribly unlikely Wraith as scum would vote scum in a situation where most pressure on him was scum generated. That pressure has disappeared since the last vote count.

Infinity your vote is bad.

[Commander Shepard]

So, here's the reason I didn't want to comment after fitz' first catch up post until he was done....while the posts have a decent amount of content and supporting links in them, it feels like he's supporting pre-existing reads, rather than forming them based on the points he's making. I didn't want to point that out before he was done, but rather see if his following posts were any better.

Scum have to choose who they're going to read as town or scum based on what content they can pull from in the thread, whereas town has to use what's presented to make their reads. If you look at his reads, there's very little progression, rather an initial read on each slot and then more evidence to support that particular read. The only place this doesn't match up is nancy/farside, but the read changes at the replacement entrance, which is a convenient place to do so.

VOTE: havingfitz

I believe that's

L-1

Join me on AC the Fitz wagon is crap.

[Infinity 324]

Infinity, who are your top three scumreads again?

Wraith, prism, and fitz. Though I'm starting to doubt prism.

I should really catch up in order

Do you think Wraith is bussing here?

I find it horribly unlikely Wraith as scum would vote scum in a situation where most pressure on him was scum generated. That pressure has disappeared since the last vote count.

Infinity your vote is bad.

I don't do pre-flip associatives. If fitz flips scum I'll reconsider.

[Commander Shepard]

Infinity, who are your top three scumreads again?

Wraith, prism, and fitz. Though I'm starting to doubt prism.

I should really catch up in order

Do you think Wraith is bussing here?

I find it horribly unlikely Wraith as scum would vote scum in a situation where most pressure on him was scum generated. That pressure has disappeared since the last vote count.

Infinity your vote is bad.

I don't do pre-flip associatives. If fitz flips scum I'll reconsider.

Fitz won't flip scum though is my point.
I have demonstrated your scumreads are bad. Join me on AC.

[Infinity 324]

You haven't demonstrated anything. I'm happy with my reasons for scumreading fitz and I'm happy with my and nacho's reasons for townreading AC (even though I don't agree with all of them).

[The Wood Cutters]

@TWC

Which posts if any are mastina's?

Every post not written by Gin or Nacho obvi

[The Wood Cutters]

If Fitz flips scum can we flip Sheppy for the terribad defense of Fitz?

[Empking]

@Prism - Why do you care about the people on both wagons?

@Empking - What do you think of my rebuttal to your 385 (quoted below)?

The argument that they only came up with the gambit excuse after they got attacked for the initial attack is weakened by Almost50's posts immediately after the claim (and the claim itself); notice how they specifically call us out when they claim (this is consistent with their claim that they were trying to read us). Posts that also bolster their claim can be found here (specifically asking for mastina to respond) and here (where he gets annoyed that he's not getting the chance to interact with us in the way that he wants).

@Farside - Could you post a more complete response about the catchup posts of mine that you thought were garbage and why you thought that my early case on Prism was scummy?

~~~Nacho!!!~~~

That AC wanted to deal with Mastina: Yes, very clear. That does not mean, however, that Mastina was not meant to convince everyone that's AC was an actual VT.

[Wraith]

I fell asleep as soon as I got home from work and woke up to find people still delaying with literally 10 minutes to deadline.

[Infinity 324]

We have 1 day and 10 minutes. But still, fitz should claim for sure and someone should probably hammer him soon.

[Wraith]

lol oops I'm totally fried today.

[havingfitz]

This is a good point and another example of shaddow thinking deeper than I remember him doing as scum.

Thinking deeper means crap when supporting a mislynch.

[Infinity 324]

Even if it is a mislynch, it doesn't mean shaddow is scum...

[drealmerz7]

L-1 needs a claim

[havingfitz]

But still, fitz should claim for sure and someone should probably hammer him soon.

Just noticed I'm at L-1.

I'm an odd night commuter.

Heading out for the evening....probably not back online until the morning, if I survive.

[drealmerz7]

need more than that with a claim dude

this is a theme game

flavor, etc., whatever you've got

that claim makes me want to hammerrrr you

[havingfitz]

Sorry...Sir Francis Drake.

[CloudKicker]

Prodding myself, i dont have time irl and i dont really think i will have time the next 2 weeks because its the end of my semester but i really want to play :c

[CloudKicker]

But still, fitz should claim for sure and someone should probably hammer him soon.

Just noticed I'm at L-1.

I'm an odd night commuter.

Heading out for the evening....probably not back online until the morning, if I survive.

thats looks stupidly convenient

[CloudKicker]

We could test having fitz, but he could also be scum commuter 1-shot, scum commuter or other stuff that im probablly not thinking about. I dont think testing the commuter affix alone will give too much infos on his alignement

[CloudKicker]

Scum JOAT too, its would also be convenient that he uses his 1-shot commuter the first night considering hes heavily fosed and if he survives, would be a good check