[Game Over] Newbie 1784 - Escape Room

[Alisae]

NANCY <3
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Alisae]

Mini <3
♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Alisae]

Nancy catch me up here?

[Alisae]

Ay, nancy is town!

I have a super super super important question to ask chuuuuuuuuu
plz if you don't answer it it'll break my heart.

Spoiler: SUPER SUPER IMPORTANT QUESTION

Do you wish to be power town with me this game?

Select all that apply

[] Yes
[] No
[] Maybe
[] FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

[Alisae]

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Alisae]

Okay I skimmed a bit of the day.
BlackVoid tracked WhyMafia to himself, right?
hm......
let me go read WhyMafia's ISO.

[Alisae]

Thanks

[Alisae]

@BlackVoid

- I'm honestly confused why you did that.

[Alisae]

No I haven't even done my catchup yet.
Plus Srceen, I just skim ISOs to catchup and VCs and stuff.

[Alisae]

not to mention I WAS somewhat paying attention to this game before replace in, and from what I was reading I thought nancy was town so...

[Alisae]

Don't worry BV. Alisae provides the best
Over the top, quality
Content.

You won't regret it.
I promise =)

[Alisae]

Wowzers Srceen, you scum?
Your ISO sure does look like you are.

[Alisae]

ASLAAAAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


..

Why you be scums Aslan

I swear to fucking god nancy.
Not this game. Not this game.

[Alisae]

Aslan this is like our first game together except now I lynch both Pine and you!!!! How funny is that!!

Except you won't be fucking lynching me cuz I'm town dang nabbit.

[Alisae]

Ay, nancy is town!

I have a super super super important question to ask chuuuuuuuuu
plz if you don't answer it it'll break my heart.

Spoiler: SUPER SUPER IMPORTANT QUESTION

Do you wish to be power town with me this game?

Select all that apply

[] Yes
[] No
[] Maybe
[] FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

You never even answered my super important question.
Nancy how can you do this to me ;~;
/me cri

[Alisae]

Now let's push scum!Srceen together.
The way he treated Pine super early and then switched off to WhyMafia is fucking disgusting.
VOTE: Srceen

[Alisae]

Yaaaaaaaaaay, me and nancy are powertown :DDDD
<3

[Alisae]

Now nancy

come join me
on this wonderful
delcious Srceenplay wagon

[Alisae]

don't be sad. Aslan is here. And when we are together, we achieve greatness.
Over mountains and rooftops and heaven and earth, we'll be tehre for each other
cause in the end, we will work together to find greatness, and kick the scumbutts out of our city.

[Alisae]

The way he treated Pine super early and then switched off to WhyMafia is fucking disgusting.

Which posts are you referring to?

Okay it wasn't WhyMafia, it was nancy. Mybad.

--

VOTE: Pine

Why vote Pine? He just got prodded.

It's easier to lynch someone when they are not around to defend themselves.

VOTE: Pine


Not tracker

Edit*[/quote]

IC are tough to come by.
Do the mod a favor and not worry about replacing that spot down the line.
IC will get lynched later anyway.
Would you rather we mislynch an active town?

Why does being prodded give a higher chance of being town?

You're aware that lynching means you kill them of, right? This whole thing could just be a misunderstanding.

Yes.
Let's kill him.
Better than a possible mislynch of an active town. Can you agree with that?

@srceenplay
If you could protect one person who would it be
If you could kill someone who would it be (daykill)

Protect myself
Kill pine.

@cog
I'm not deadset on Pine. Where did you get that idea from?
Is this better?

VOTE: Nancy

L-2

These posts make me feel like Srceen was trying to distance himself from Pine. Not to mention it was a push that really was not going anywhere. His Pine push wasn't really that good either. It was just there and I don't think he was going anywhere with it. Hence why I think Srceen was Pine/Drixx's buddy.

[Alisae]

Let's add that the hop is opportunistic and is just overall scummy.

[Alisae]

Aslan what do you think of the NK?

Well for starters BlackVoid is town. Period. End of Discussion. Plus with a tracker around, the safer play is to not kill unless you have an idea who the doctor is.

[Alisae]

Did someone claim BP? Judging by how early game went I don't recall anyone claiming BP

[Alisae]

Nancy catch me up here?

[Alisae]

I could easily see Pine distancing himself from Srceen.

[Alisae]

Pine
Since you just read and caught up. Everything is fresh in your mind. Can we get a read list?

My reads were pretty plainly stated, but I can give you a TL;DR summary.

Hard Town

nancy
Chronicle

Probably Town

CogMachine

The Funky Middle

WhyMafia

Under Suspicion

Srceenplay
Loopdan

Solid Scumreads

TesXX
StealthyNoodle

Especially with a readlist like this.
Plus Pine didn't really comment on Srceen's push on him at all.

[Alisae]

nancy your indecisiveness is terrible ;~;
you're breakin my heart.

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

oh
my
fucking
god
I
am
not
scummmmmmmms

gawsh you get so paranoid on me all the time it drives me nuts ;~;

Challenge: Srceenplay

[Alisae]

Tes you don't understand how I play.

I can advocate for this btw.

[Alisae]

hey nancy.
This is kinda a wierd question but erm...
what color is your role pm?

[Alisae]

WOW
YOU PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ME
THATS RUDE ;~;

[Alisae]

hey nancy.
This is kinda a wierd question but erm...
what color is your role pm?

Red. Yours? Why do you ask?

this one

[Alisae]

Alisae, you doc? I want that perfect town win.

Okay.
Why would you EVER say this outloud? I'm not going to give you an answer, but what makes you think it is perfectly acceptable to ask this outloud. If a BP exist, a doc shouldn't be possible.

[Alisae]

Like, what possible thought process could you think "Hey, I am going to rolefish FOR A FUCKING DOCTOR" is okay?
Please do educate me here.

[Alisae]

Why do you ask?

Just wondering. No specific reason.

[Alisae]

Why?
I townread you.

[Alisae]

Why did you vote me in the first place. To hurt my nonexistent feelings?

Just a little goof and a bit of a spoof.

Well I planned to vote you immediately after the post I made about you. But I wanted to give Alisae a chance to claim doc first. I guess I have to go over my townreads on you again, though.

There are lines.
Look between them you fuckin fisherman.

[Alisae]

Alisae, you doc? I want that perfect town win.

Okay.
Why would you EVER say this outloud? I'm not going to give you an answer, but what makes you think it is perfectly acceptable to ask this outloud. If a BP exist, a doc shouldn't be possible.

Ugh, this is why I wish we had kept Loopdan.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CAN REPLACE OUT YOU KNOW IF YOU HATE ME THAT MUCH

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

Why?
I townread you.

Because I'm conf!town as long as I continue to be claimed BP so I don't know how you could possibly have any question about the color of my role PM.

hmmmm...

Alright. I claim Doctor BUT
I do NOT want a flashwagon on nancy.

[Alisae]

Do NOT flashwagon nancy

[Alisae]

So you claim doc then? Then I guess it's decided.

Yeah but you aren't lynching nancy.
Sorry.

[Alisae]

nancy am I still scums?

[Alisae]

WM I'll do Srceen with you.
pedit: Alrighty, I think Srceen was scum that wanted to bus Pine early and backed off in a really shitty way.

pedit2: No. nancy does not have to explain anything.

[Alisae]

oh
my
fucking
god

GET THE FUCK OFF NANCY SHE IS NOT SCUM

[Alisae]

Don't worry BV. Alisae provides the best
Over the top, quality
Content.

You won't regret it.
I promise =)

Now nancy

come join me
on this wonderful
delcious Srceenplay wagon

don't be sad. Aslan is here. And when we are together, we achieve greatness.
Over mountains and rooftops and heaven and earth, we'll be tehre for each other
cause in the end, we will work together to find greatness, and kick the scumbutts out of our city.

Crumbs

pedit: Hi Chronicle.

[Alisae]

Possible. no killing is also somewhat of a decentish idea if you don't know who the doc is.

[Alisae]

Yeah I'm a VT.

[Alisae]

To bait the nightkill

[Alisae]

How am I messing up a newbie game when I'm trying to help the town win by directing the NK to a vt, which is exactly how you are supposed to play VT?

[Alisae]

Yeah sure Chronicle, vote Srceenplay

[Alisae]

How am I messing up a newbie game when I'm trying to help the town win by directing the NK to a vt, which is exactly how you are supposed to play VT?

You direct NKs towards yourself as VT by playing well and being a threat to scum, not by fake-claiming a PR.

Um...You're forgetting that my VT flip means you get another potential guilty or a clear. Let's say Srceen is lynched and he flips town (lol not going to happen), I would die, and you would either have a strong townbloc of {BV, nancy, and one other townie} or you get a guilty. Like, that's a game winning sinareo there.

[Alisae]

Black doesn't like gambits, good to know.

[Alisae]

I almost ate ice cream with a fork
what the fuck is wrong wtih me?

[Alisae]

Oh well we all have our moments when we derp like that

[Alisae]

Dude!
I looked at Srceen's ISO, I saw scum, and I am currently pushing that.
Plus I have like,
the worst reading comprehension on MS.

[Alisae]

The way he treated Pine super early and then switched off to WhyMafia is fucking disgusting.

Which posts are you referring to?

Okay it wasn't WhyMafia, it was nancy. Mybad.

--

VOTE: Pine

Why vote Pine? He just got prodded.

It's easier to lynch someone when they are not around to defend themselves.

VOTE: Pine


Not tracker

Edit*

IC are tough to come by.
Do the mod a favor and not worry about replacing that spot down the line.
IC will get lynched later anyway.
Would you rather we mislynch an active town?

Why does being prodded give a higher chance of being town?

You're aware that lynching means you kill them of, right? This whole thing could just be a misunderstanding.

Yes.
Let's kill him.
Better than a possible mislynch of an active town. Can you agree with that?

@srceenplay
If you could protect one person who would it be
If you could kill someone who would it be (daykill)

Protect myself
Kill pine.

@cog
I'm not deadset on Pine. Where did you get that idea from?
Is this better?

VOTE: Nancy

L-2

These posts make me feel like Srceen was trying to distance himself from Pine. Not to mention it was a push that really was not going anywhere. His Pine push wasn't really that good either. It was just there and I don't think he was going anywhere with it. Hence why I think Srceen was Pine/Drixx's buddy.[/quote]

Let's add that the hop is opportunistic and is just overall scummy.

This is most of my case on Srceen so far.

[Alisae]

oh wow the quotes are just going to keep fucking up huh?

[Alisae]

There's also like the part where Pine didn't acknowledge Srceen's push at all.

[Alisae]

I never "pushed" Pine.
But I was one of the first on board with lynching him.
Pine didn't mention me and I called him out for it.

Looking at VCs this is wrong. Around early game, you were pushing the IC who wasn't around to defend themselves, and then later joined nancy's wagon when that was getting some steam.
If you were on board so early, why were you at the end of the wagon?

[Alisae]

TesXX if you feel that way vote Srceen

[Alisae]

No WhyMafia unvoted.

[Alisae]

Which is good considering BlackVoid wanted to get some last thoughts out after reading his last post and it seemed like I missed that ;~;

[Alisae]

No WhyMafia unvoted.

No he didn't.

Srceenplay why are you voting to no lynch when there's a confirmed tracker?

What does that matter?

True, what does the

confirmed town's life matter

Like seriously everybody, let them kill the tracker

ok!
VOTE: BlackVoid





sike
UNVOTE: All

[Alisae]

That's his last vote.

[Alisae]

Like, he hasn't revoted since that unvote so...

[Alisae]

Either way if BV is comfortable with this, he should have hammers.

[Alisae]

Fiiiine.

VOTE: Aslan

Town!Aslan doesn't ruin fake twilights.

Okay but when I have done it as scum?

[Alisae]

Like, I genuinely do not understand what anyone was going to get out of this fake twilight. Plus Chronicle ruined it before me so...

[Alisae]

Like, I don't get your point here.

[Alisae]

[quote="In post 1874, Chronicle"][/quote]

[Alisae]

If I counted right that isn't hammer

ffs really?
why do quotes mess up like this ;~;

[Alisae]

Nah I can understand nancy's push on me. She hasn't seen me ruin fake twilights before because I usually love that stuff.
However here, I really just saw no point because I don't think it's going to change anyone's reads here.
Plus Chronicle already placed doubt in this twilight being real, so...

[Alisae]

How can I have an agenda when I haven't read the game?

[Alisae]

@TesXX

- Why did you feel the need to fake a twilight here?

[Alisae]

@TesXX

- Why did you feel the need to fake a twilight here?

So that Srceenplay would admit to being scum. That's always why I fake twilights.

And if he didn't?

[Alisae]

So Srceen was bussing.
Like this was established already.

[Alisae]

nancy, like give me something to work with here.
Saying I'm scum just avoids the question completely.

[Alisae]

Like I'm scum.
That's just it.
Man, why did I replace into this game if that's all I'm going to get.

[Alisae]

And now we're going to go back to the question of "How did I suddenly come up with this agenda we're talking about if I didn't read the thread, therefore am not getting a chance to read the room."
Hell, you want to talk about agenda, okay. - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=70832
In that game I replaced in, read Grey, and pushed that read with 100% confident.

[Alisae]

The way Srceen treated Pine was like "Hey, this is scum, I'm not going to explain why, but it's scum. Trust me guyz." and then "Oh, I don't have to bus to attempt to show I'm not doing anything, let's do that."

[Alisae]

Either way if BV is comfortable with this, he should have hammers.

I don't like the tone here Aslan. This doesn't read to me like town!Aslan super confident he's about to win the game with a scum lynch.

BUT WE ARE ABOUT TO WIN THE GAME WITH A SCUM LYNCH.
OH
MY
GOD

[Alisae]

I was in the dead thread that game, and that case is exceptional because Grey. You also handled it differently, you went through other slots and you haven't done that here.

OH. SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S GREY IT'S DIFFERENT.
HE WAS THE FIRST FUCKING SLOT I ISOED
AND THEN I DECIDED TO NOT PUSH ANYTHING ELSE

[Alisae]

OH.
SO IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE I CAN READ GREY WITH 100% ACCURACY.
OKAY.
I SEE HOW IT IS.

PEDIT: OH MY GOD, YOU NEVER EVEN POINTED OUT WHAT THIS AGENDA IS OR HOW I SUDDENLY GOT IT WHEN I DIDN'T READ THE THREAD?

[Alisae]

OKAY, SINCE WHEN THE FUCK IS BUDDYING A SCUMTELL?
THAT'S N-O-R-M-A-L FOR ME.

[Alisae]

I need to take a fuckin breather.

So you're saying that I did the roleswap because why?

[Alisae]

Like shit.
I thought we had a thing where me, BV, and you were all going to be powertown together.
AND WE CAN STILL DO THAT!
But we can't do that if we're at each others throats all of the dam time.

[Alisae]

God this feels like fuckin Witch Trials.

[Alisae]

Sae what do you think the chances of Noodle being scum are?

I don't think that slot is scum? Like, I hate the fake hammer, don't get me wrong, but Pine voteparked that slot. And Pine has a reputation for not bussing. So Noodle is probably town.
Also you can just call me Ali if you want, but I don't really care.

[Alisae]

Actually if Srceen was not bussing Pine, I don't think anyone was.

[Alisae]

If you're not scum then give me something to work with bae. Like, I'm scumreading both you and Src but if scum is outside that, who's it gonna be?

TesXX or Chronicle. That is if Srceen does NOT flip scum, which I'm pretty dam sure he should.

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:
I'll go look at those people for ya and give ya something on them, but scum is most likely in {Chronicle, Tes, WM, Srceen}

[Alisae]

Also if my reads are good here, AND Srceen flips town for some godforsaken reason, I wouldn't be surprised if scum didn't bus Drixx.

[Alisae]

Spoiler: WhyMafia

I'm scum this game Pine.

Confirmed scum
VOTE: Nancy

Yep, OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck.

It's basically voting someone simply because they voted you. You can also for instance OMGUS scumread someone, which is scumreading someone simply because they scumread you. So I OMGUS voted you.

Oh I am stupid. I thought you were calling me out for OMGUS

@Nancy why should I trust you and remove my vote on you

@WhyMafia
I am helping.
What do you think about Loopdan?

First post was legit, kinda confused why he changed his vote in his next post.

So you overlooked him by mistake.
His vote change is confusing to you.
His vote on stealthynoodle by your reasoning deserves him being voted.

Help me vote him then.
You can ask him questions to try and get unconfused.

VOTE: Loopdan

Yea he's viable to look into.
Loopdan, explain your vote
VOTE: Loopdan

Why are we debating his alignment when he's not even lurking - he hasn't logged on since the game started. This is wasting time to find scum, unless we're using this to gauge reactions.


But idk I'm bad at mafia

Reads list
Tes - Not certain, apart from suggesting Bp strat, he hasn't done much. Could be a gamble as he looks Town by suggesting it, but it's becoming fairly common (from what I can tell by what others said), so if he was scum, he might as well look as best as possible.
Chronicle - Neutral. Similar to Tes he defended the bp strat quite vigorously as well as the inactive. He hasn't really done anything that screams "TOWN", but seems to be trying to help find scum (pressuring others into participating with the strat that usually finds scum).
Loop - Town, didn't work against the strat and also helped pressure others. This is more of a vibe I guess
Nancy - Scum lean. Starts out with going out for an aggressive counter to the strat. Proceeds to say it won't help new players learn. However most of the new players seem to not mind using this strategy. If there's a cop, look into her please.
Pine - Not enough posts to judge with, but made a valid point
Screenplay - Neutral, slightly miffed he's pushing me, but it's my fault for missing loopdens post. I want his reads before saying anything conclusive. Idk how it's considered lurking, we all have outside lives. If I wanted to lurk, I wouldn't have replied "a few hours" in the first place. Seems to be aggressive against the new player, some of it deserved, but I don't trust him fully. Maybe I'm just biased.
Stealthy - Scum lean - I'm having trouble with quotes, so I'll refer to post numbers
79/89 - Says that he agrees with Nancy that the strat isn't good for new players, but proceeds to say by not supporting it, she has a higher possibility of scum. It seems to me that she's braver than you and posted her opinion while you just want to look good to town. You're a hypocrite. Stating that you agree with what she said, but those words make her a scum read to you makes no sense. Even tho she didn't cooperate, you should've stuck to what you believed in lol. While I don't necessarily consider her as pro town, you make her seem so much better. You could be bussing her idk.
94 - Again, you agree with her ... what makes you vs her different? That she took a more direct stance? If the majority of the players said that this strat was bad and she was the only who argued it was good, I think you wouldn't have gone along with this strategy xd

I hope what I just said made sense, it probably didn't knowing me. Anyways, go analyze this now

@nancy


Why are you so sure pine is town? He made only a few posts and they were simply to defend you. I'm just interested in hearing your reasoning

Your poor me I'm bad AtE is scumy. You trying to find made up reason as evidence to vote someone is scumy.

A) Who are you talking in regards to that post
B) what does "your poor me I'm bad AtE is scummy mean

Is this some mafiascum lingo

Oh ok

I was unaware mentioning emotions was scummy. I'll keep that in mind. So of all the people who posted you think I'm scummy bc I was referring to a comment made about my skill?

I personally think pine is worth looking into -
He begins by heavily defending Nancy and proceeds to leave

In addition, I would have to say Nancy has a higher chance of scum than stealthy atm. She repeatedly appeals to my emotions, making me want to trust her. My other reasoning in on my reads list from page 8. I don't feel like repeating all of it. Just go check. That being said, I do appreciate what you said Nancy xd.

Hi all! Thank you mod for cutting me some slack, I've largely been absent from the site for several days due to real life issues. I'm catching up right now.

When you finish reading up, reads list please

VOTE: SrceenPlay
I just don't buy him. He advocated a Pine lynch for reasons that are absolute garbage + I am biased towards him XD

Meant to include this sorry VOTE: SrceenPlay
You tried to get Pine killed and now you seem very defensive over it. Your latest response (well I'm not voting him) seems to be whining. I feel as though you were hoping to put pressure on someone else, and quickly back off if it doesn't work out.
I'm not sure if I explained this right, if someone's confused just tell me

@nancy
Lots have happened since you last gave any definite reads. Can you re-affirm who you believe is suspicious/town to you?

This places me in a conomdrum.

What conundrum are you referring to?


@src talk to me about 595 please. Why do you not care about being on a wagon with WM? Why are you wagoning Chronicle? You appear to be scumreading both WM and Chronicle, yet abandon the larger WM wagon to join WM in forming a new Chronicle wagon. Why? What are your reads?

VOTE: srceenplay

Bc I seem like I'm scum
I realize how bad this looks now, but I kinda used a tos strat :/

Tes, who do you think are good lynch targets right now?
And who would you say are your solid town reads?

The town reads I'm still working on right now. My suspicions are nancy and Srceen right now.

You said this 6 days ago. Post your reads list as your next post or die scum. I'm tired of you focusing only on setup. That only gets us so far, and makes you seem all towny. I want explanations as well.
VOTE: Tes

Town = Nancy, BlackVoid

Town Lean = Nobody :/

Unsure = Stealthy, Chronicle

Scum Lean = Loopdan, SrceenPlay, Tes

Scum = Drixx

VOTE: SrceenPlay
Die scum

24 - RVS vote that seems scummy honestly. Like easy to do but it's RVS so it doesn't matter.
33 - That question sorta goes nowhere on page 2
83 - Town driven vote.
176 - Honestly this seems town motivated here, mostly because he's annoyed that people are hunting Pine when he's not doing anything. Like, from what I'm getting it seems like he wants to try to get people to hunt on who is posting rather then who isn't, and he thinks lurking here isn't a scumtell. And that's fine. Though Pine did flip scum, so it's also possible he's trying to drive attention away from the lurkers.
194 - The Tes read is bad. That strat is ultimately NAI. Hate the posture around it. I like the analysis on Chronicle, and Pine. I don't get the nancy read at all though.
206 - Good questions
208 - Pointing out Srceen's unreasonability here is towny.
210 - Reads like "Oh, I just made a mistake, haha pay no attention here" but I also like the question here's asking here and like how he's pointing out how unreasonable Srceen is.
222 - This is just in general a good post that I like.
356 - THIS GUY GETS IT!
412 - THIS GUY GETS IT!
459 - This seems town driven to me.
607 - This backtrack is something I honestly think would come from town rather then scum.
709 - Good vote and just in general a good post.
1062 - I find it strange he's not voting Drixx at this time given this read list?
1119 - Yeah, especailly after this vote. Why was he going for people that aren't Drixx?

[Alisae]

Huh?
I don't get what's going on?

EIther way, I like WhyMafia, but the slot has done a few thing that might have been a red flag. I'ma look into {Chronicle, or Tes} now. One of those.

[Alisae]

Okay...Um...What did he do to claim scum?
Complete the thought here for me.

[Alisae]

I'm not really buying it?
Like, are you saying he claimed scum because Pine did something to make him look town when he's not?

[Alisae]

Would scum really continue to try to push you nancy?

I push mod confirmed innocents as scum. If they could get an IC lynch or a PR lynch they'll do it. Though I guess I see what you're saying here? And that does make you look towny.

[Alisae]

nancy, was Noodle ever actually in lynch range with Pine on the wagon?

[Alisae]

Like.
I'm refering to L-1 or something like that.

[Alisae]

I've seen this kind of slip quite a lot. He's scum. I will put my own skin on the line even. I'm that sure.

nancy, can you explain to me what Drixx was refering to here?

[Alisae]

This post is really gross. I don't believe that was a scumslip by Noodle and I don't think Town just says yeah okay and goes along with it like that.

I think the thing Drixx was talking about is the same thing you were talking about here.

[Alisae]

Oh right I can read. Hold on,

[Alisae]

btw did Jae tell you about his scumtell when it comes to pushing slips that aren't slips?

[Alisae]

I'm not saying you are.
I'm saying that Drixx pushing that slip sorta doesn't look like SvS to me.

[Alisae]

For you!

[Alisae]

I'm a third party, mason vigilante werewolf serial killer.

[Alisae]

OH WAIT! That's WIFOM!

[Alisae]

I've got no motivation to play currently, I'm just quietly following.

What are your current thoughts?

[Alisae]

I replaced in this game.
In the uPick I was there from start to finish.
So that difference might be different to decode.

[Alisae]

Chronicle, would it help if I gave you some of my scumgames?

[Alisae]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=70536 - Elemental Trinity. Lurked hard D1. Got guiltied D2 for a lolhammer.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70078 - Hogwarts. My first scumgame. Just fucked up on a fakeclaim really.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70313 - Spyro. I was fairly obvious scum that somehow never got lynched here.

Yeah, I'm not that good at scum.

[Alisae]

Oh yeah btw Elemental Trinity I was on "No Bullying Allowed"
Hogwarts I was on "Frosty Scales" for a good half of it.
And Spyro I was on "Raging Spammers" for a good chunk of the game.

[Alisae]

nancy, I'm pretty sure I posted my selfie somewhere in the GTKAS forum.

[Alisae]

That photo was in October, and either way it's still pretty relevant.

[Alisae]

I still need to look over Chronicle's ISO, and I said I'd do Chronicle or TesXX. So Chronicle next I suppose?
I'll go do that one in a bit.

[Alisae]

Though they do seem interested in sorting me, they aren't really hunting me at all. It's kinda wierd.

[Alisae]

Why do you feel that way?

[Alisae]

That's a dam shame.
Like, seriously.

[Alisae]

That kinda reminds me of Elemental Trinity

[Alisae]

Chronicle how do you feel about Noodle's recent posting?

[Alisae]

the recent nancy and Noodle interactions.

[Alisae]

Yeah. That.

[Alisae]

oh yeah, my vig game is pretty on point.

[Alisae]

Litterally would have carried NY199 if not for mod error.

[Alisae]

Litterally would have carried NY199 if not for mod error.

Oh no!! What happened?

Let me tell ya the night actions real quickly.
N1
I shoot LUV (He was a Vanilla Cop)
Scum shoot Cloudie (He was their own LOVED traitor LOOOOOOL)
Syryanna BGs me (Lol bodyguards)

N2
I shoot Nosferatu (He flipped Scum!Motion Detector LOOOOOL)
Scum shoot Cabd (He flipped gunsmith. He tried to gambit by saying he was 1-shot. He checked Titus and litterally threw the game because Titus used conftown status and OMGUS people who were not scum)
The BG was not around. At all.

N3
I shoot Kyouko (He flipped VT)
Scum shoots me
Heres the mod error. Garrybote (Syryanna's replacement) BGs me, but Cephir didn't do the action.

D4
The lynch that day was Nero who flipped scum.

If I was alive, Night 4 probably was looking like
I shoot Pine (Scum)
Scum shoot me

[Alisae]

Scum won that because Titus used her conftown status to have really bad reads and town made the wrong choice in LyLo when Pine was being scummy.

[Alisae]

I'm telling a story.
Sadly that's one of my earliest games, so I don't think the meta will help you much there.

[Alisae]

I did not know.

[Alisae]

but I was wierd and used mew and kitty noises to crumb vig and it was very wierd and newbieish of me.

[Alisae]

If it's meta not related to this game, I'd appreciate not having it clutter the pages

btw what do you think of this nancy? I think the annoyance looks genuine here, and honestly I feel like Chronicle would just let us go on without saying anything here if they were scum. Thoughts?

[Alisae]

btw nancy that was my first avi on MS

[Alisae]

It's a good avi

pedit: Yeah, nancy LOVES gambits. nancy also LOVES hiding her real reads. nancy is well, a wild card.

[Alisae]

I have yet to see what scum!nancy looks like.

[Alisae]

THE UNIVERSAL MAFIA SYMBOL BOYYYYYYYYYYS

[Alisae]

haha! I got you chu now scum!
Now you will forever be at my mercy!

[Alisae]

btw fun fact.
cells can't be destoryed, they just get recycled. The cells we're made of were once the cells of dinasasurs and before that they were the cells of a star etc

[Alisae]

nancy what's your current read on me?

[Alisae]

Yeah, I'm fine with getting tracked or whatever.
VOTE: Srceen
And of course you would be fine with the counterwagon since you know your lifespan isn't long.

[Alisae]

Like fuck, your WhyMafia Vote just screams "I am trying to survive"

[Alisae]

Srceen it's your WhyMafia vote.
Like, do you think your lazziness is supposed to make you town?

[Alisae]

OH COME ON
2135 IS CAUGHT SCUM FOR THE WRONG REASONS.
FUCKING CRIST.

[Alisae]

zzz

[Alisae]

btw AMA guys.
If no one asks me anything, I'll go look through Chronicles and/or TesXX's ISO.

[Alisae]

VOTE: TesXX

obscum

This is litterally what I do as scum. Just FYI. Considering placing a vote after going through ISOs here.

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

You know what, scum is so intent on being a douche about this we just sit here. We have 9 days. You can't re-join the queue until this game is over so congrats.

(expired on 2017-04-27 11:30:00)

This is also kinda dickish to do. Like, I get you are really fed up with this game an all, but this isn't the correct approach.

[Alisae]

TesXX no one honestly cares about perfect wins in newbies.

I do.

The true wincondition is to have fun. Just saying

[Alisae]

Caring about getting perfect wins will just paralyze your play because you'll be so focused on results that you'll neglect the process

Wrong, but oh well.

You honestly have no right saying this to nancy or an SE player with your play this game. Just saying.

--

BlackVoid, thoughts on WhyMafia not responding to our scumreads on him?

At this point, I think I've seen decently good towntells from Chronicle, Srceenplay, and TesXX. I'll point out what these are after a little while though because I'd rather evaluate the rest of the players first. If it's not you, it's probably Al or WM.

Hi. Pine doesn't bus. Ever. He is amazing anti-bus.

--

For what it's worth, I absolutely care about a perfect win. One of the reasons I love playing mafia is to test the limits of how accurate I can possibly be. I keep a record in my wiki of every lynch that occurs when I'm in the game and calculate the percentage of days I've lynched scum, divided by the total opportunities I had to lynch scum. Right now, it's only 66% so nothing to write home about but it's enticing/fun to see how high I can bring it up. Sort of like trying to get the best score in a video game. And of course, newbie games count. The process is only relevant as long as it gives you consistently good results. Results are what actually count in my opinion. I think our approaches to mafia are pretty different but we collaborated on the D1 lynch pretty well so no reason we can't do it again. I'd just rather drag out D2 and end the game today than quicklynch and drag the game out for several days. In the long run, taking our time today might actually end the game faster. @nancy, I'd love to hear the distinctions in your reads on WhyMafia, Alisae, Noodle. It wouldn't hurt to have a little more confidence in a single read than just "one of these people are scum and we're in autowin."

Hi, who are you tracking tonight if it's not me. If I'm conftown, that's going to help you out a lot, just saying.

[Alisae]

nancy, if you're here, can we talk?
I'm probably going to go through Chronicle's ISO first. What posts do you want me to look out for and give my thoughts on, and what specificly do you want me to keep an eye on?

Same thing for TesXX's ISO.

I'll do this for ya.
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

You weren't really going to guide my thoughts. You should know how I case people by now. ISO and post thoughts as I go along.

[Alisae]

Hey BlackVoid.
Are you going to do something that is potentially going throw the game if we do not lynch scum?

[Alisae]

I can out right fucking now who I think your tracking, becuase it's gamethrowing if it is who I think it is.

[Alisae]

Of course I don't see any reason to fucking do that so I'm not going to.

[Alisae]

Then how can you figure out if scum is trying to play around your track?

[Alisae]

And even if say scum nokill every single night just because they don't want to get tracked, and the tracker is just stuck on them 24/7, they'll just get lynched somewhere down the line if we just start machine lynching {Srceen, TesXX, Noodle, Me, WhyMafia, Chronicle}

pedit: Clearing has the same effect as guiltying, just that if you clear someone, the game takes longer. No?

[Alisae]

Yeah, I really don't get why.

[Alisae]

wow you sound like you don't care.

[Alisae]

Nah I'm just playing with you

[Alisae]

Okay mom

[Alisae]

/me hugs nancy

[Alisae]

btw, Noodle's whole push on WhyMafia is all based on semantics and is ultimately NAI and shit.

[Alisae]

OMG I'M USING SOMEONE ELSES WORDS, I MUST BE SCUM. OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Like, Occam's Razor just suggests that the word choice was unconscious and unintentional.

[Alisae]

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO D:

[Alisae]

OH WAIT. THATS A GOOD THING. YAAAAAAY!

[Alisae]

Yeah, I PROMISE TO DO CONTENT STUFFS TODAY NANCY. I KEEP ON GETTING DISTRACTED ;~;

nancy, yours was the first iso I read, and I deduced that it was town. Also, the way you treated the 1-shot BP strat suggested you weren't a 1-shot BP. And then you hardclaimed 1-shot BP. That was obviously a gambit.

I also did pay note of tracker claim from BV's slot. Remember, I WAS checking in on this game from time to time. So there was somethings I caught on. I just put two and two together and kaboom.

[Alisae]

And hey, I have done things.
/me pouts
I pushed Srceenplay, and did a thing describing my thoughts on WhyMafia. Gawsh ;~;

[Alisae]

Saying you're obviously a VT by the whole thing you're treating the situation just felt off there. Also, let's follow it by you hardclaiming 1-shot BP later on. Like, the belief there is just different. Also, I know you like gambits and I feel like you would be the type of person to claim "Macho Cop" when you are actually a "1-shot BP Cop." Or you would probably claim "1-shot BP Cop" when you're a "Macho Cop" so I took note that that's what you could have been doing.

[Alisae]

AtE is not scummy.

[Alisae]

And how many completed games have you played with WhyMafia?

[Alisae]

Your Honor, the Defense Rests.

[Alisae]

You don't get the joke zzz

[Alisae]

Best to announce who you're tracking too me thinks.
That way if they no kill, you can tell that they're trying to just delay getting guiltied and we can just lynch them tomorrow.

[Alisae]

zzzzzzz
yeha you're right.
I'm bad at this game.
mybad

[Alisae]

that's why I'm getting tracked.
That way I can be conftown, proceed to solve the game with my amazing powers abilities and skillz, and YAY TOWN WIN

[Alisae]

naaaaaaaancy I don't wanna put effort into the game ;~;

[Alisae]

Can we just lynch scumz already zzzzz

[Alisae]

@Mod VC please

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:
just in case.

[Alisae]

I was voting someone but I forgot where I was voting?
tbh this game is on the backburner for me.
So..yeah.

[Alisae]

Figured I'd take this moment to reset.

[Alisae]

BEETLEJUICE!
What's going on?

[Alisae]

All effort is futile

[Alisae]

Fiiiiiine, I'll guess your reads.

TRs

nancy
BV
Noodle
Srceen
Chronicle
WhyMafia
TesXX
Me

SRs

[Alisae]

yourself.

[Alisae]

ARI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<3333333333

[Alisae]

WM explain your read on me?

[Alisae]

@Aslan that isn't his read on you he's guessing my reads....

Oh okay.
@WhyMafia why do you think nancy may feel that way about me?

[Alisae]

Wait BV.
You townread me?
Why?

[Alisae]

@Aslan that isn't his read on you he's guessing my reads....

Oh okay.
@WhyMafia why do you think nancy may feel that way about me?

Why do you Alisae believe that WhyMafia says that he believes that nancy would feel that way about you?

tbh this is so confusing
i don't know how
to answer
it

[Alisae]

No.
What I'm asking is why does WhyMafia think nancy would townread me?

[Alisae]

tbh ari's scumgame is probably better then mine.

[Alisae]

nancy, I played with scum!ari in a matrix6 NO FLIP game hosted by FA.
He had me pocketted so fucking easily. I never figured out he was scum till like, LyLo.

[Alisae]

Lylo I figured out he was scum but by that time it was too late.

[Alisae]

I don't remember if I've seen Alisae's scumgame...but I believe you when you say it's good!

White Flag. Remember, the game where I was with Frog?

[Alisae]

Sheep me please.

I'll do that soon, don't worry

nancy, how on earth do you have over 800 posts in this game?!?!?

That's impressive shit!

I hard carried the fuck out of this game to make up for Civ mafia.

Yeah you should feel better about your town!game. You have scum pratically in a corner. It's only a matter of time.

[Alisae]

OMG ARI I JUST NOTICED THE BOWTIE

[Alisae]

Would could lynch TesXX. The way he suggested nancy to be a doc while she was fakeclaiming 1-shot bp before the roleswap stuff happened doesn't exactly look the best?

[Alisae]

I knew nancy was the doctor
I'm so clever aren't i

[Alisae]

@BV what do you think about scum!Chronicle nokilling?

It's possible. If Chronicle couldn't decide whether or not to believe nancy's claim, then he'd be reluctant to shoot either me or nancy. If I get doc'd and track him, that would be an instant loss.

Why would a VT claim BP though? Why would doc not counterclaim?