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Post Post #2750 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:16 pm

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Well there's two unknown kills and Zakk keeps freaking out about their being the possibility of an SK in this game.
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Post Post #2751 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:17 pm

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like there's a HUGE advantage to hunting the last team scum but Zakk wants to ignore that? WTF?
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Post Post #2752 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:40 pm

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vote:Key
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Post Post #2753 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:06 pm

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In post 2751, Nero Cain wrote:like there's a HUGE advantage to hunting the last team scum but Zakk wants to ignore that? WTF?
What advantage, pray tell?
Either kill would remove scum and eliminate a nightkill.
In post 2749, Creature wrote:Is it proven there's an SK?
It's extrapolatable currently imo and will be obvious after tonight I think. Unless there's shenanigans
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Post Post #2754 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:57 pm

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Just strong vibes and just from past scenarios, I feel pretty comfortable assuming Creature vs. LUV is scum vs town. Just who is scum.

To find out

VOTE: Creature
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Post Post #2755 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:49 pm

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VOTE COUNT
VOTE COUNT 4.09


[3] Creature:

[2] Nero Cain:

[1] ThinkBig:

[1] zakk:

[1] Keyser Söze:


[7] Not Voting:
alban, Keyser Söze, ThinkBig, Creature,

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With
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Post Post #2756 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:02 pm

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Could you point to out where I said I'm looking for an SK/third-party, Nero? You talk about me having trouble reading but it seems like you're the one with the trouble. I've been strongly against looking for an SK/third-party faction. I don't think you're town period and due to flavor I'm inclined to believe you're group scum.
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Post Post #2757 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:30 pm

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In post 2740, Creature wrote:I think it's Keyser, LUV or ThinkBig.
In post 2548, Creature wrote:I'm not sure if anyone in your lynch list is actually scum.
Do you think BT/ThinkBig is scum now?

Do you think Keyser/LUV are 'mafia' scum (thus sheeping zakk's theory)?
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Post Post #2758 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:38 pm

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@ThinkBig

Thoughts so far?


@alban

Have you had time to consolidate your reads yet?
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Post Post #2759 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:28 pm

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In post 2705, PeregrineV wrote:Not thinking zakk is scum at all.

Vote: Creature
Cool re:me, but why vote Creature? I have him as town (or at least, non-groupscum) due to ircher interactions. That'd be extremely weird between scumbuddies.

Also there's this:
In post 2735, Creature wrote:Why I shouldn't be lynched:

I'm the only with a faction serum left that could contribute for the PoE.
If nothing else, we could make a deal with Creature to block whoever we say to block (for that is Abnegation's power, I know because was in there before N1), and count the kills.
Sure, scum could no-kill to try to frame someone, but that's good because a) Creature uses the block on who we say to use it on, and b) it could stop a scum kill from going through, either by them being blocked, or by a no-kill action to try to frame someone.

So, it's a net town positive to leave Creature alive, at the very least, for today. And that has nothing to do with my not-groupscum read of him, which you may or may not share.
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Post Post #2760 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:35 pm

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In post 2726, Nero Cain wrote:Can we all talk about how Shos either has a result on me or thinks that I'm not team scum and yet Luv thinks I should be lynched today? How is this not SK hunting?
Sure, let's talk about it.
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Post Post #2761 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:37 pm

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In post 2727, Nero Cain wrote:
IF
I out aside how stupid Luv is being rn (and Key) for the same reason)
Then there is a 33% chance that we lynch scum today by lynching in BT6, Creature and RB.
Where do you get this number?
And don't be like "it's 1/3" because I'm not a dumbass.

How do you figure that one of those three is scum?
And are you calculating SK into this, or just groupscum?
Why would you set aside people being stupid, ever?

None of this makes any logical sense.
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Post Post #2762 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:42 pm

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***smoking gun***
In post 2733, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2731, zakk wrote:Because you are the two least likely to be town.
He's SK hunting wich makes a ton of sense from group scum but your scum read on me makes little to no sense.
If you were town, an "I'm town" would be all that's necessary in your mind.

but as scum, you'd be like "your scum read on me makes little to no sense" which WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN first of all, and secondly, it betrays the fact that you are trying to make me doubt myself.
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Post Post #2763 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:45 pm

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In post 2734, Creature wrote:ThinkBig, Keyser or LUV it is then.
Why these?

What about Nero? what about PV? what about alban even? what about ME even?

momo, Wheme, Ramcius, and you, i will write off as not-groupscum enough not to lynch today, but how do you get from 7 down to those 3 specifically?

y'all are doing PoE wrong
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Post Post #2764 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:48 pm

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In post 2746, Nero Cain wrote:Like if we go with Shos' claim/thoughts that teamscum are not, me, wheme and Zakk then that leaves a pool of

Keyser Söze
BTD6_maker/thinkbig
Creature

as the last team scum. That's a 33% to lynch scum.

but according to Zakk its better to SK hunt today wich makes the mislynch pool much much bigger.

Zakk is SK. Key is mafia I bet.
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vote:Zakk
>says SK hunting is scummy

>lays out plan for PoEing groupscum

>accuses me of being SK (for wanting to not abandon SK hunting)

>>>>>>>>votes me (who he just said was an SK)




i am literally dying laughing right now.

this is SO scum.
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Post Post #2765 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:52 pm

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and then he realizes how stupid he looks

and he votes the guy he says is groupscum
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vote:Key
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Post Post #2766 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:54 pm

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actually!! it's not even the guy he says is groupscum
In post 2727, Nero Cain wrote:
IF
I out aside how stupid Luv is being rn (and Key) for the same reason) Then
there is a 33% chance that we lynch scum today by lynching in BT6, Creature and RB.
so he sets aside how stupid Luv is being
but he DOESN'T set aside how stupid key is being

and also, where did RB/PV go, from his PoE PoV? he should still suspect PV, right??

he's pulling this out of his ass right now.
literally dragging it out, kicking and screaming.
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Post Post #2767 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:55 pm

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In post 2754, momo wrote:Just strong vibes and just from past scenarios, I feel pretty comfortable assuming Creature vs. LUV is scum vs town. Just who is scum.

To find out

VOTE: Creature
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Post Post #2768 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:01 pm

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Nero, did you rolled scum again?
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Post Post #2769 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:44 pm

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Huh yeah, 2764 needs to be explained.
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Post Post #2770 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:25 am

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Oh man I'm lost
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Post Post #2771 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:30 am

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me too
one last scum is doing great work

on the other hand we really
should
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Post Post #2772 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:30 am

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can someone make a nice colored table of who is responsible to each kill that we know about?
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Post Post #2773 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:31 am

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In post 2684, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Just wait and stop speculating about an SK/third-party. Flavor strongly implies we are dealing with just group scum.

Can you get back to me on alban now, shos? You just implied that he didn't claim town vigilante in your hood.
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Post Post #2774 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:34 am

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In post 2772, shos wrote:can someone make a nice colored table of who is responsible to each kill that we know about?
well, only Mewtaph probably by Erudite, still no confirmation from them, all others no info

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