It's not tunnel visionIn post 1699, Gamma Emerald wrote:cut the tunnel vision broIn post 1698, MortFeld wrote:I think Titus was scum because the way she pushed me was very bad. That's about it. I have barely read fitz' posts.
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The replacement posts garbage
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I didn't. I said I've barely read his postsIn post 1705, Gamma Emerald wrote:then why say you haven't read himPlayers I admire: Thor665, Lapsa, RC-
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I'm here, currently working on getting my post completely together. Finding posts I want to highlight and such, etc, etc.
I'm going to put it here that I absolutely abhor the overuse of meta andanyonewho attempts to ignore me by handwaving what I have to say and saying "but it's that person'smeta" will incur my wrath.
Someone having a meta of playing scummy is not an excuse to ignore scummy things they do. Do not positively reinforce bad play.
Mind you none of you have done that yet, but I want that out there now before I have to deal with "but I know this person and that's just what they do." I'm not having it.don't you feel silly now?-
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I like you.In post 1709, RayFrost wrote:I'm here, currently working on getting my post completely together. Finding posts I want to highlight and such, etc, etc.
I'm going to put it here that I absolutely abhor the overuse of meta andanyonewho attempts to ignore me by handwaving what I have to say and saying "but it's that person'smeta" will incur my wrath.
Someone having a meta of playing scummy is not an excuse to ignore scummy things they do. Do not positively reinforce bad play.
Mind you none of you have done that yet, but I want that out there now before I have to deal with "but I know this person and that's just what they do." I'm not having it.-
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So, I'm here and am going to go into the Many Reasons Gamma Is Suspect.
This is going to be end up being a wall for all you "I don't read wall posts" people. We're probably not going to get along, stylistically. I willattemptto keep things concise. I hope you willattemptto read what I have to say. Don't worry, if you just can't handle reading my posts, I try to include a short-form conclusion at the end. If I don't, just ask for it.
GE's rather reactionary focus in this post bothers me:
When he gets a serious vote, he immediately says he suspects ircher but doesn't follow up with reasonsIn post 275, Gamma Emerald wrote:Can you explain this?
Also you are the one I suspect most out of the first five to vote me. The list goes like
TwoFace
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Mort
Ircherora vote on him. Then he goes to vote transcend instead, never follows up on this, and later drops both the transcend and ircher reads without ever having made anyactualattempt to push them. If you suspect someone, the town thing to do is to pressure them.
Votes with no follow up are just lip service. And this is a consistent issue, which I'll point out a few more times later.
The chain of interaction that comes before this post by Mort is relevant, but Mort raises a good point here: GE is responding to a question about him but not toward him. This is a sign of over-defensiveness and shows another form of reactionary gameplay.In post 361, MortFeld wrote:
1. Answering a question not directed toward youIn post 360, Gamma Emerald wrote:So you blame me? For what exactly?
2. Being incorrect that the thing quoted answers the question
And also the fact that the question was about his read of you, and that you interject there is icky.
We see in this post here another case of GE posting suspicions:But there's no mention of MMM before this, and, if you look at the following posts, there is
nofollowup - no real scumhunting toward MMM to solidify this read or even show why this read exists.
I thought I'd keep going but honestly they're more of the same.
If you go through GE's postings, the votes are rarely outside of what other people are voting, his "reads" are either reasonless or could've been super easily copypasted from someone else. Without being questioned or pushed for reasons, GE has not actually given any this entire game. There are more contentless posts than contentful posts, with less content given the less talk about or to him there is.
The willingness to lynch anyone who isn't a townread is inherently a more pro-scum mindset as anyone thatisn'tscum is a good death. You might also note that GE said he wastownreading the fitz slotbut thenkept his vote and requested a claim. The only motivation to do this is to reveal Fitz's role while it's a free option. If you're town, you push against lynching a townread and try to not get the townread to reveal their role. You don't force them to claim then jump off when you were already townreading the person.
Nothing GE has done this game has been actual scumhunting. It's all lip service and self-serving behavior.
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If you guys want my reads on other people, I can give them (with reasons), but my priority is lynching the person I think is most likely to be scum.
I will say that I heavily disagree with an Ircher wagon / lynch in no small part due to the fact that GE is a person on the wagon. But aside from that, I've felt that ircher has actually put efforts toward scumhunting and has had fairly respectable posting overall.
While I understand the transcend wagon's origins and don't completely disagree with it, I personally find transcend's nonsense is inscrutable and that whemestar's existence in this game is too short for me to make a judgment. I'll take it if I'm forced to by deadline, but I'm not happy.don't you feel silly now?-
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Yes.
Have you actually ever said why you suspected MMM or why you dropped that suspicion?
Have you actually explained why, while you were townreading fitz, you kept your vote on the wagon and demanded a claim?
Have you actually pushed and done scumhunting and followup on the scumreads you claim to have that happen to already be pushed by other people?don't you feel silly now?-
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Looking back I misread pronoun usage in a couple posts (#979 and related) that made me misread you saying you had a townread on fitz when it was about someone else.
One point retracted. Still not my biggest issue, which is your lack of scumhunting this game and lack of follow through.
Your content providing has in vast majority been reactionary, and the fact you're "intending" to case your biggest scumreads SoonTM when you just haven't bothered for some reason this entire time until now doesn't really help the cause.
You haven't made any cases till now.
I bring up a lack of cases and suddenly it was your plan to do so all along.
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