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ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
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Post count is not indicative of my alignment or anyone elses. I really hate that you are viewing me as "confirmed town" because I'm V/LA and the third biggest poster. Yuck.In post 177, MarioManiac4 wrote:TB is on V/LA and is also the third biggest poster so he's basically confirmed townI have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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wtfIn post 198, FireScreamer wrote:In post 194, MarioManiac4 wrote:i don't think that is a good push but i'll let fs explain why
padayadaI could be tunneling like a motherfuck on a page 2 lolread but does this look like MM trying to enemy of my enemy me to shake me off of them to anyone else?
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Wisdom Of the One
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I'm pointing it out because Wisdom scumread pretty much anything I did in that game, which resulted in me getting extremely frustrated and scumreading him for it. We were both town.In post 197, Belisarius wrote:
A bit late, I know, but I don't like this.In post 184, BananaNSFW wrote:I have the feeling we are not going to get along in this game. Again. Do you remember how that ended last time?
Ireallydon't like this.
According to your own link, how that ended last time was lynching town. Remembering that should make you cautious, not confident.
I don't see any town motivation in this post, but there's one thing it does accomplish, if it works: Introducing fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
FUD is one of my favourite tactics as scum. FUD won Open 524 for me. (That's my favourite scumgame ever)
This needs lots and lots and lots of rope.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: BananaNSFW
If you think there isn't any town motivation in that, then you're getting my vote.
VOTE: Beli
Congrats.In memory of Banana. Radja's character pick in Survivor: Pretty Super Vanilla-
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ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
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Unofficial Vote Count
MarioManiac4 (2)- FireScreamer, ThinkBig
Belisarius (2)- Wisdom, BananaNSFW
FireScreamer (1)- Tenshii
Wisdom (1) - EchoVision
Teneshii (1) - MarioManiac4
BananaNSFW (1) - Belisarius
Not voting (1) - BTD6_maker
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
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My case against Belisarius
This is a blatant misrepresentation of FireScreamer's post. I'll quote FireScreamer's post in full:In post 63, Belisarius wrote:
What the crispy crunchy Christ is this dreck? You're scumreading Mario for not reading your mind.In post 61, FireScreamer wrote:MM got multiple chances for the correct response of "of course I don't townread you for that, you just read what I was townreading and became it".
I'm not sure where Belarius gets his reasoning from, but here is the more important part,In post 61, FireScreamer wrote:>MM states they are townreading Radja's effort
>I make a tryhardy attempt to examine the TB read
>I ask to be townread for it
>Initially I get a denial that tryharding is a townread because I "refuted" it
>I tell MM that no I didn't, I refuted the other thing, you by your own logic should still townread tryharding
>MM laughs it off and gives me a townread
MM got multiple chances for the correct response of "of course I don't townread you for that, you just read what I was townreading and became it".
You could say MM's responses are just joking RVS stuff. but the reason they gave for giving the intial two reads in the first place was to get out of RVS.Belarius never follows up with this post nor does he ever vote FireScreamer.
This is his next post in the game:
On a second read, this feels quite opportunistic. Previously he called someone out for a "bad post" and here he votes someone for making a post-RVS fluff post instead.In post 82, Belisarius wrote:UNVOTE:
MM's vote on me makes sense.
VOTE: EchoVision
Fluffing post-RVS does not.
*brain explodes*In post 69, BTD6_maker wrote:Of course, if MM says that effort was a Towntell, then if someone subsequently tries to put in effort and ask to be Townread it ceases to be a Towntell as scum can easily fake anything once they know what they will be Townread for. I think that is what FireScreamer meant.So far belarius has done little scum hunting and done little to try and solve the game. He appears to be trying to distract us from the FireScreamer/Mario read and derail that conversation.
This is a blatant and scummy OMGUS.In post 197, Belisarius wrote:
A bit late, I know, but I don't like this.In post 184, BananaNSFW wrote:I have the feeling we are not going to get along in this game. Again. Do you remember how that ended last time?
Ireallydon't like this.
According to your own link, how that ended last time was lynching town. Remembering that should make you cautious, not confident.
I don't see any town motivation in this post, but there's one thing it does accomplish, if it works: Introducing fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
FUD is one of my favourite tactics as scum. FUD won Open 524 for me. (That's my favourite scumgame ever)
This needs lots and lots and lots of rope.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: BananaNSFW
I like this wagon. Belarius has done little to try and solve the game, has done no scum hunting and his voting pattern does not make sense from a town POV.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
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Here is where I'm at right now.
Town: {FireScreamer, BananaNSFW}
Null: {Wisdom, MarioManiac4, BTD6_maker, Tenshii}
Null scum: {EchoVision}
Scum: {Belisarius}
I still like FireScreamer for town and he is still a strong town read. I like how he immediately takes initiative to start sorting players and begins to scum hunt early. One thing I do not like, however, is how he tunneled MarioManiac4 for several pages. I want to sort MarioManiac4 a bit better and have moved him to null based on his interactions with others. I really want Belarius to flip as he is by far my strongest scum read and a red flip on Belarius will give us a lot of information to go on.
BananaNSFW is also a town read. His early paranoia of me buddying FireScreamer feels genuine and from a town POV. However, I want to see more from him and want to interact with him more.
I have a lot of null reads this game and really want to sort out the null pile. I have not played with wisdom before and am unfamiliar with his play style.@Wisdom: If you can link me to some of your recent town/scum games, that will be great.
@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.
BTD6 and teneshii haven't really posted enough for me to sort them.
EchoVision - I originally called out Belarius for making an opportunistic vote on him for making a post RVS fluff. However, at this point he has 8 posts and all of it is fluff and there is no content. You have had enough time to get in the game and get in here. For now, he is a scum lean. I've played with EchoVision before and, IIRC, he was much better than this. (I'll have to find the link to the game).
I already explained my belarius read in the post above.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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FireScreamer Mafia Scum
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Ambiguous on whose completed scum game you are asking for hereIn post 214, ThinkBig wrote:Here is where I'm at right now.
@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.In the dark, it's nearly invisible—until it exhales.-
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??In post 215, FireScreamer wrote:
Ambiguous on whose completed scum game you are asking for hereIn post 214, ThinkBig wrote:Here is where I'm at right now.
@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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FireScreamer Mafia Scum
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Do you want a completed scum game from me or MM.In post 216, ThinkBig wrote:
??In post 215, FireScreamer wrote:
Ambiguous on whose completed scum game you are asking for hereIn post 214, ThinkBig wrote:Here is where I'm at right now.
@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.In the dark, it's nearly invisible—until it exhales.-
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MM. Sorry I thought it was clear with the boldIn post 217, FireScreamer wrote:
Do you want a completed scum game from me or MM.In post 216, ThinkBig wrote:
??In post 215, FireScreamer wrote:
Ambiguous on whose completed scum game you are asking for hereIn post 214, ThinkBig wrote:Here is where I'm at right now.
@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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I don't like how Beli and Tenshii are similar wagons that have done similar things yet the pressure on Beli far outweighs that put on Tensh.
ftr I don't really have a Beli read at this point.
TB asked for my most recently completed scumgame, here it is- viewtopic.php?f=53&t=64492-
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Alright I phrased that unclearly.
What Beli did in his first post is state that he disliked Fire's logic and thought it was "dreck." I'm not sure going on to ignore it is indicative of alignment.
Beli hasn't done too much but I feel like he's been doing that in a much less scummy way than what Tenshii is doing.-
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Can you explain the teneshii read a bit more? The only things I see in her ISO is a few RVS fluff posts. The only thing that I see worth noting is that teneshii promised a catch up yesterday afternoon that still hasn't come.In post 222, MarioManiac4 wrote:Alright I phrased that unclearly.
What Beli did in his first post is state that he disliked Fire's logic and thought it was "dreck." I'm not sure going on to ignore it is indicative of alignment.
Beli hasn't done too much but I feel like he's been doing that in a much less scummy way than what Tenshii is doing.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.
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