Micro 710: Backup6 (Game Over)

[Wisdom]

197* i meant

[Wisdom]

I could be tunneling

You are

[ThinkBig]

TB is on V/LA and is also the third biggest poster so he's basically confirmed town

Post count is not indicative of my alignment or anyone elses. I really hate that you are viewing me as "confirmed town" because I'm V/LA and the third biggest poster. Yuck.

[MarioManiac4]

i don't think that is a good push but i'll let fs explain why
padayada

Actually this is scum.
VOTE: Tenshii

I could be tunneling like a motherfuck on a page 2 lolread but does this look like MM trying to enemy of my enemy me to shake me off of them to anyone else?

wtf

[MarioManiac4]

tenshii's push on fs feels really bad
he hasn't really done anything at all do advance the gamestate- he's just sitting back and voting FS for a shitty push (which he will know is pretty much NAI at this point)

[Wisdom]

agreed

[MarioManiac4]

i think that's scum tho

[Wisdom]

beli's awful turn on banana makes me think he thinks banana wagon might have chances of happening because it was my other scumread
I currently think beli/tenshi

[BananaNSFW]

I have the feeling we are not going to get along in this game. Again. Do you remember how that ended last time?

A bit late, I know, but I don't like this.

I

really

don't like this.

According to your own link, how that ended last time was lynching town. Remembering that should make you cautious, not confident.

I don't see any town motivation in this post, but there's one thing it does accomplish, if it works: Introducing fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

FUD is one of my favourite tactics as scum. FUD won Open 524 for me. (That's my favourite scumgame ever)

This needs lots and lots and lots of rope.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BananaNSFW

I'm pointing it out because Wisdom scumread pretty much anything I did in that game, which resulted in me getting extremely frustrated and scumreading him for it. We were both town.
If you think there isn't any town motivation in that, then you're getting my vote.
VOTE: Beli

Congrats.

[BananaNSFW]

agreed about Tenshii.

[ThinkBig]

Unofficial Vote Count

MarioManiac4 (2)- FireScreamer, ThinkBig
Belisarius (2)- Wisdom, BananaNSFW
FireScreamer (1)- Tenshii
Wisdom (1) - EchoVision
Teneshii (1) - MarioManiac4
BananaNSFW (1) - Belisarius

Not voting (1) - BTD6_maker

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[ThinkBig]

UNVOTE: MarioManiac4
VOTE: Belisarius

I like this better.

[ThinkBig]

Belisarius is now L-2 for the record.

[ThinkBig]

My case against Belisarius

MM got multiple chances for the correct response of "of course I don't townread you for that, you just read what I was townreading and became it".

What the crispy crunchy Christ is this dreck? You're scumreading Mario for not reading your mind.

This is a blatant misrepresentation of FireScreamer's post. I'll quote FireScreamer's post in full:

>MM states they are townreading Radja's effort
>I make a tryhardy attempt to examine the TB read
>I ask to be townread for it
>Initially I get a denial that tryharding is a townread because I "refuted" it
>I tell MM that no I didn't, I refuted the other thing, you by your own logic should still townread tryharding
>MM laughs it off and gives me a townread

MM got multiple chances for the correct response of "of course I don't townread you for that, you just read what I was townreading and became it".

You could say MM's responses are just joking RVS stuff. but the reason they gave for giving the intial two reads in the first place was to get out of RVS.

I'm not sure where Belarius gets his reasoning from, but here is the more important part,

Belarius never follows up with this post nor does he ever vote FireScreamer.

This is his next post in the game:

UNVOTE:

MM's vote on me makes sense.

VOTE: EchoVision

Fluffing post-RVS does not.

Of course, if MM says that effort was a Towntell, then if someone subsequently tries to put in effort and ask to be Townread it ceases to be a Towntell as scum can easily fake anything once they know what they will be Townread for. I think that is what FireScreamer meant.

*brain explodes*

On a second read, this feels quite opportunistic. Previously he called someone out for a "bad post" and here he votes someone for making a post-RVS fluff post instead.

So far belarius has done little scum hunting and done little to try and solve the game. He appears to be trying to distract us from the FireScreamer/Mario read and derail that conversation.

I have the feeling we are not going to get along in this game. Again. Do you remember how that ended last time?

A bit late, I know, but I don't like this.

I

really

don't like this.

According to your own link, how that ended last time was lynching town. Remembering that should make you cautious, not confident.

I don't see any town motivation in this post, but there's one thing it does accomplish, if it works: Introducing fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

FUD is one of my favourite tactics as scum. FUD won Open 524 for me. (That's my favourite scumgame ever)

This needs lots and lots and lots of rope.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BananaNSFW

This is a blatant and scummy OMGUS.

I like this wagon. Belarius has done little to try and solve the game, has done no scum hunting and his voting pattern does not make sense from a town POV.

[ThinkBig]

Here is where I'm at right now.

Town: {FireScreamer, BananaNSFW}
Null: {Wisdom, MarioManiac4, BTD6_maker, Tenshii}
Null scum: {EchoVision}
Scum: {Belisarius}

I still like FireScreamer for town and he is still a strong town read. I like how he immediately takes initiative to start sorting players and begins to scum hunt early. One thing I do not like, however, is how he tunneled MarioManiac4 for several pages. I want to sort MarioManiac4 a bit better and have moved him to null based on his interactions with others. I really want Belarius to flip as he is by far my strongest scum read and a red flip on Belarius will give us a lot of information to go on.

BananaNSFW is also a town read. His early paranoia of me buddying FireScreamer feels genuine and from a town POV. However, I want to see more from him and want to interact with him more.

I have a lot of null reads this game and really want to sort out the null pile. I have not played with wisdom before and am unfamiliar with his play style.

@Wisdom: If you can link me to some of your recent town/scum games, that will be great.

@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?

I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.

BTD6 and teneshii haven't really posted enough for me to sort them.

EchoVision - I originally called out Belarius for making an opportunistic vote on him for making a post RVS fluff. However, at this point he has 8 posts and all of it is fluff and there is no content. You have had enough time to get in the game and get in here. For now, he is a scum lean. I've played with EchoVision before and, IIRC, he was much better than this. (I'll have to find the link to the game).

I already explained my belarius read in the post above.

[FireScreamer]

Here is where I'm at right now.

@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?

I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.

Ambiguous on whose completed scum game you are asking for here

[ThinkBig]

Here is where I'm at right now.

@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?

I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.

Ambiguous on whose completed scum game you are asking for here

??

[FireScreamer]

Here is where I'm at right now.

@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?

I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.

Ambiguous on whose completed scum game you are asking for here

??

Do you want a completed scum game from me or MM.

[ThinkBig]

Here is where I'm at right now.

@MarioManiac4 - Can you link me to a completed scum game?

I really want to do a better job of sorting this out than by sheeping an early read from FireScreamer. I'd like to dive more into his meta.

Ambiguous on whose completed scum game you are asking for here

??

Do you want a completed scum game from me or MM.

MM. Sorry I thought it was clear with the bold

[ThinkBig]

@Fire - While you are here, what do you think of my read on Bananna and my case on Belarius?

[FireScreamer]

Both are fine reads which I agree with. More so the Bell than the Banana.

I want to engage Tenshi. Please come to the thread Tenshi.

[MarioManiac4]

I don't like how Beli and Tenshii are similar wagons that have done similar things yet the pressure on Beli far outweighs that put on Tensh.
ftr I don't really have a Beli read at this point.

TB asked for my most recently completed scumgame, here it is- viewtopic.php?f=53&t=64492

[MarioManiac4]

Alright I phrased that unclearly.
What Beli did in his first post is state that he disliked Fire's logic and thought it was "dreck." I'm not sure going on to ignore it is indicative of alignment.
Beli hasn't done too much but I feel like he's been doing that in a much less scummy way than what Tenshii is doing.

[FireScreamer]

God you are making it so hard for me to not just want to tunnel you MM.

[ThinkBig]

Alright I phrased that unclearly.
What Beli did in his first post is state that he disliked Fire's logic and thought it was "dreck." I'm not sure going on to ignore it is indicative of alignment.
Beli hasn't done too much but I feel like he's been doing that in a much less scummy way than what Tenshii is doing.

Can you explain the teneshii read a bit more? The only things I see in her ISO is a few RVS fluff posts. The only thing that I see worth noting is that teneshii promised a catch up yesterday afternoon that still hasn't come.