Mini 1907: Oddrole Mafia IV (Game over)

[eagerSnake]

VC 1.20

SnarkySnowman (5) [L-2]: GinghamDog, TheBrie, Almost50, Javajoe24, Rautherdir
Chickadee (3) [L-4]: Desperado, boring, GuiltyLion
GinghamDog (2) [L-5]: Creature, massive
Desperado (1) [L-6]: podoboq
Almost50 (1) [L-6]: SnarkySnowman

Not Voting (1): Chickadee

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline in (expired on 2017-05-19 12:33:03).

[TheBrie]

Okay. I finally got on.

Snarky sounds wrong except for one things. His point on Desperado seems semi-solid. CPR trainer has negative town utility. One CPR doctor who's either great at guessing night kills or uses it as vigilante is useful. But if there's only one night kill, two CPR doctors is crazy. It would be the swingiest craziest game ever. I can hardly believe that even in an oddrole game.

So I don't really believe Desperado's claim. Fake claim puts him as scum or third party.

I'm trying to figure if it's possible for Snarky and Desperado to be partners. Maybe it fits with Snarky voting almost50. But he seems to have called rather a lot of attention to Desperado. It's more than distancing. So I dunno.

VOTE: Desperado
I might change back to Snarky as the day end draws nearer.

[Desperado]

rule #1 of fakeclaiming is that you have to be able to prove it. there is no way for me to be fakeclaiming a role that must necessarily be confirmed by another player. and my target has essentially already confirmed if you're reading closely enough

[Creature]

Who was your target again?

[Desperado]

still not common knowledge, still not revealing it right now

[Rautherdir]

Honestly if people keep pushing you on it the best idea would be to reveal it. Not quite yet, but if people somehow push you to L-1 again the target should get revealed/reveal themselves.

[TheBrie]

Actually I have a suspicion of who that target might be. And he isn't someone I think is particularly scummy.
And it's so smoothly done I don't think it's likely to be scum orchestrated. Unless they have day chat.

UNVOTE:

My grandmother is visiting so I might not get on as much in the next couple of days. I'll have to read through things again.

[Chickadee]

I've skimmed a bit from mobile. I had a really busy day yesterday. I have a semi-busy day again today, but I'll have time tonight to get on and really sit down to catch up.

[eagerSnake]

VC 1.21 (The Mother's Day VC)

SnarkySnowman (4) [L-3]: GinghamDog, Almost50, Javajoe24, Rautherdir
Chickadee (3) [L-4]: Desperado, boring, GuiltyLion
GinghamDog (2) [L-5]: Creature, massive
Desperado (1) [L-6]: podoboq
Almost50 (1) [L-6]: SnarkySnowman

Not Voting (2): Chickadee, TheBrie

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline in (expired on 2017-05-19 12:33:03).

[podoboq]

Sorry, I'm behind on this game. Summer schedule starts tomorrow, so I should be able to reread and catch up soon.

I'm not a fan of Desperado's claim. Setup spec for me would suggest that it shouldn't be in the game, but it's obviously a really dangerous claim for scum to make day one. Still unsure what I want to do there, but for right now, I'm erring on the side of just lynch it.

[podoboq]

Clearly the rest of town disagrees with me, though. I guess we're just hoping to confirm him?

UNVOTE:
For now

Sorry, I'll catch up soon, promise.

[massive]

What am I ignoring, GuiltyLion? I townread you so let me help you.

I was trying to bait a response with 246 and got nothing - you didn't take any offense to me saying your post and vote were awkward? why do you townread me here?

I didn't take the bait. I was pretty clear about why I scumread Chickadee and I was pretty clear about voting her. The only reason I didn't at that time was it would have put her at L-1 and it was a bit early for that. Someone hopped off so I put my vote where my mouth was. What was awkward about it?

And I equate tryhard with town. Wrong or right, you are working to clearly explain yourself and I liike that.

[massive]

If someone wanted to start on GinghamDog I could pile on that, she's been just gritting at the fringes of all these wagons without getting involved.

I've already shared my thoughts on the two main wagons in the game and why I'm not voting on them. Don't misrep me. And if you really felt this way, why not start the wagon yourself?

Obviously because I was just as content being on Chickadee, but there's no momentum. No sense jumping to another dead wagon, but if others see what I see, we can push something. Should be obvious really.

[Creature]

VOTE: Almost50

[Creature]

We got to 4 days left so quickly and yet it feels we haven't done much.

[Creature]

Both Almost50 and GinghamDog look good to go.

[Creature]

1. Despe

rado*

(half strike)

2. Beethoven0203 TheBrie*

3. massive*

4. SnarkySnowman*

5. Creature*

6. Joey_ Almost50*
7. Rautherdir*
8. boring*

9. Javajoe24*

10. GinghamDog*

11. podoboq*

12. GuiltyLion*

13. Chickadee*

[Almost50]

VOTE: Almost50

1. Despe

rado*

(half strike)

2. Beethoven0203 TheBrie*

3. massive*

4. SnarkySnowman*

5. Creature*

6. Joey_ Almost50*
7. Rautherdir*
8. boring*

9. Javajoe24*

10. GinghamDog*

11. podoboq*

12. GuiltyLion*

13. Chickadee*

Um.. erm.. aaa .. like.. can you at least explain the read list? Are you ready for that yet?

[Creature]

Who would you wagon from the striked?

[Almost50]

I mean I'm already voting one of them if you want a short answer, but REALLY.. I want YOU to provide ME with reasoning, and not the other way around.

[Desperado]

Sorry, I'm behind on this game. Summer schedule starts tomorrow, so I should be able to reread and catch up soon.

I'm not a fan of Desperado's claim. Setup spec for me would suggest that it shouldn't be in the game, but it's obviously a really dangerous claim for scum to make day one. Still unsure what I want to do there, but for right now, I'm erring on the side of just lynch it.

you plan on explaining anything you said in this post or are you just gonna drop it?

[Desperado]

VOTE: Almost50

really bad vote

[Rautherdir]

Who would you wagon from the striked?

Well obviously Snarky. But I might be fine with you now that I start thinking about it.
Also why 'wagon' and not 'vote'?

[boring]

Looking at Snarky's 403, those reads are uncharacteristically wordy and clumsy. Each one leaves him open to change his mind as wagons form and disintegrate. So remember when I said he knows how to make your towniness obvious? It's not doing it.

I'm having a hard time deciding whether Snarky or Chicka are scummier. I'll stick with Chicka because she has the more substantial wagon, but I'll gladly support a Snarky lynch.

[boring]

Looking at Snarky's 403, those reads are uncharacteristically wordy and clumsy. Each one leaves him open to change his mind as wagons form and disintegrate. So remember when I said he knows how to make

his

towniness obvious?

He's

not doing it.

I'm having a hard time deciding whether Snarky or Chicka are scummier. I'll stick with Chicka because she has the more substantial wagon, but I'll gladly support a Snarky lynch.

EBWOP