In post 5334, Ankamius wrote:Because as humanity has gained knowledge and learned more about the world, logic, mathematics, physics, etc. evolved to be able to provably explain how our new knowledge of the world works. Your philosophy is more leaning reversing that process than moving forward.
I disagree. It's the next natural step in the evolution of knowledge.
So rejecting everything that we use to explain how the world works in favor of something that doesn't is a forward step?
I don't believe singaporean air is particularly fresh
I mean, smoking is illegal from my last understanding. They're kinda known for their crazy laws. Something like 150 dollars for not flushing public toilets.
Smoking is legal, there's no nationally enforced or applied fine for flushing public toilets
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5350, Ankamius wrote:So rejecting everything that we use to explain how the world works in favor of something that doesn't is a forward step?
Forward and only reasonable step
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5337, Accountant wrote:I also disagree that the utopia rejects logic. The utopia understands that logic is a useful tool that can produce great results if used properly.
And logic gets rejected when it disproves your utopia?
Yeah
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
But when it supports the utopia we embrace it with open arms like the parent embracing a runaway child returning home
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
...and you wonder why I say the utopia would have to be in effect for it to start going into effect.
You'd have to outright shift the entire world to think the way you do before people can start thinking the way you do, because the level and method of progress we've had the way we've been going is provably effective. Rejecting the fundamental basis of that progress is not something that's going to happen by itself.
At least, barring a cataclysmic event that will set humanity back, which would be bad for your philosophy too since it's apparently a 'forward' idea from where we are now.
I don't believe singaporean air is particularly fresh
I mean, smoking is illegal from my last understanding. They're kinda known for their crazy laws. Something like 150 dollars for not flushing public toilets.
Smoking is legal, there's no nationally enforced or applied fine for flushing public toilets
"Person using sanitary convenience to flush it after using
16. Any person who has urinated or defecated in any sanitary convenience with a flushing system to which the public has access shall flush the sanitary convenience immediately after using it."
Also, the smoking thing is illegal in "(a)
any premises or building or such part thereof or any class of premises or buildings or such parts thereof —
(i)
being used for commercial, industrial or recreational purposes; or
(ii)
to which members of the public or a section of the public have or ordinarily would have access whether on payment of a fee or otherwise;
(b)
any common property or limited common property of any residential premises or building; or
[47/2004 wef 01/04/2005]
(c)
any public service vehicle or part thereof or any class of public service vehicles or parts thereof,"
Oh, chewing gum importing is also illegal except for under specific circumstances, such as for research purposes, theraputic use, or to then be immediately exported out somewhere else and not sold.
In post 5357, Shaziro wrote:Also, the smoking thing is illegal in "(a)
any premises or building or such part thereof or any class of premises or buildings or such parts thereof —
(i)
being used for commercial, industrial or recreational purposes; or
(ii)
to which members of the public or a section of the public have or ordinarily would have access whether on payment of a fee or otherwise;
(b)
any common property or limited common property of any residential premises or building; or
[47/2004 wef 01/04/2005]
(c)
any public service vehicle or part thereof or any class of public service vehicles or parts thereof,"
That is not the same as smoking being illegal. It just limits where you can smoke. And good thing too, I don't need second hand smoke giving me cancer
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
I realize, I was correcting myself. Oh also, gay sex is illegal.
"Outrages on decency
377A. Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years."
Good find with the public toilet flushing, now I can finally have a legitimate avenue of catching and burning the asshats who don't
Can't wait to see the look on their faces when their disorderly conduct gets their ass slapped with a $1000 fine
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5360, Shaziro wrote:I realize, I was correcting myself. Oh also, gay sex is illegal.
"Outrages on decency
377A. Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years."
yeah this is a huge problem
And i have 0 clue why they arent fixing it
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5356, RadiantCowbells wrote:We're simply too uneducated and uncultured as a society to rightfully embrace Accountant's utopia. Tragic.
In a few centuries you will no longer be
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5355, Ankamius wrote:Rejecting the fundamental basis of that progress is not something that's going to happen by itself.
It's not a rejection, it's the next step in the evolution of logic.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
Here's a Business Insider article about the weird illegal things. Most of their links don't work, but they're all to that official site where you can probably use the search function to find stuff.
But, would you say that the high amount of legal enforcement and structure in Singapore contributes to your religion?
Singapore is like a bad copy of the utopia in that it tries hard to do the strict legal thing but ends up seeming silly with chewing gum laws. I don't think it's any worse than some other silly laws though.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 5296, Kublai Khan wrote:The fact that you mention it is the red flag.
The fact that you are keeping secrets from your loved ones is a red flag.
Oh? Using the word suicide is a red flag? Interesting. I don't know where you learnt that.
In post 5297, Kublai Khan wrote:2) Have them setup an account and post here. Or are you hiding things from your friends as well?
I don't think that would be a good idea.
So you haven't told your friends that you would be indifferent to their deaths if they don't follow the correct path.
In post 5304, Accountant wrote:By the way, Kublai, you are forgetting one thing that guarantees that I will not commit suicide, and hence invalidates all the fake red flags you claim to have found.
If I am dead, I cannot live in utopia. There is no way I'd accept that.
You don't have to accept it. It will come to pass. You will grow up and eventually have to come to terms with the fact that you can't live in a fantasy world. When that starts happening, you are going to view suicide as an option. And I feel I have to make a reasonable attempt to stop you.
I know you're going to repeatedly insist that you won't ever change and blahblahblah. You've got the stubbornness of a mule. Don't even bother typing it.
You've decided to engage a battle against reality but you have so much privilege that you don't actually even know what that means. You have no idea what you are up against and eventually you will crash and burn and hit rock bottom. Being able to cope with the shittiness of reality will help. Fantasies won't.
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