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Arnold Schwarzenegger Goon
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jjh927 Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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Right, this was not what I was going for, but it's a good example of you misunderstanding things.
Scum have a roleblocker. Therefore, he knew the setup in which nobody could CC him was impossible, or at least he should have done. He done goofed.
But see, what I don't like about the post I flagged there is that I would be highly expectant of scum to jump in on the day with some kind of "I don't understand what's going on look I'm town like you guys" post that would also serve as carefully disguised frustration venting. I was more suspicious of your slightly later post than that one, but I've done some resorting."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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jjh927 Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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Not so much a scumslip, but it's something I'm highly conscious of looking for that may be indicative of scum. Call it a generic scumtell. For whatever reason, I believe there is generally an inclination for scum to do that kind of thing.
And btw, I've been re-sorting primarily because another game I was in ended and of course post-game brings a lot of thinking about it. The one lynch I was wrong about feels eerily similar to yours.
Conftown: Tchill
Townreads: Zito, Cero
Townleans: Cece
Nulls: Arnold
Scumleans: Kawl
is where I am after moving you up a little due to the resorting and a little more due to this conversation."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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jjh927 Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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Arnold Schwarzenegger Goon
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Okay. Thanks for taking the time to hear me out at least. I felt pretty cornered and didn't see a way out. I'll keep producing content until I'm dead.In post 604, jjh927 wrote:Not so much a scumslip, but it's something I'm highly conscious of looking for that may be indicative of scum. Call it a generic scumtell. For whatever reason, I believe there is generally an inclination for scum to do that kind of thing.
And btw, I've been re-sorting primarily because another game I was in ended and of course post-game brings a lot of thinking about it. The one lynch I was wrong about feels eerily similar to yours.
Conftown: Tchill
Townreads: Zito, Cero
Townleans: Cece
Nulls: Arnold
Scumleans: Kawl
is where I am after moving you up a little due to the resorting and a little more due to this conversation.
Can you link me to that game?
I don't really follow you on the scumtell, especially in a newbie game.
My reads
Town: Tchill, Cece, jj
Lean town: -
Null: Cero
Lean Scum: Kawl, Zito
Scum: -In memory of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Radja's character pick in Survivor: 2016-
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jjh927 Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71471 is where it starts.
You... uuuh, might need some time on your hands if you want to read it. I'd suggest you just skip day 1 because that's like half the posts."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Arnold Schwarzenegger Goon
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jjh927 Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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The lynch that I'm getting similar vibes from was McMenno's on day 4. For clarification, I had a weird thing based on who I ended a day voting, so I couldn't really be on any wagons unless I really wanted to be, but I was strongly in support of that lynch and it was for the same kind of reasons as I was just in favour of yours."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Like, I could have cased you, but doing so would be more finding reasons why I think you're scum (and falling victim to confirmation bias) rather than having a case already built in the back of my mind that I need to assemble."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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If we're equivalent why not join me on Kawl?In post 591, Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote:I'm fairly confident the game ends after we lynch Zito/KawlKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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That post is more about reassessing the line of thought and reasoning behind NMs claim in light of us having knowledge of the set up due to the doctor flip. It's easy to say they weren't playing logically and just hand wave it away but I think being able to hazard a guess on when NM decided to commit suicide in this game should affect the way you parse his interactions with others. I believe that it was in response to the building case on him from cece and cero, which tells me that was real pressure and votes which has me town read both of them.-
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To respond to this, I don't town read you so I'm not going to build some sort of defense against your case. But I also don't strongly scum read you, and have other people I wish to read over before the days over.In post 587, Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote:
I haven't seen anyone agreeing with me.In post 584, jjh927 wrote:Uuh, let's start off with how this clearly isn't the entire playlist scumreading you, and I thought a couple of people agreed with you?
Who is scum if Zito is not scum?
Probably Kawl. He supports my wagon but doesn't hammer me. He also doesn't really give a reason why he supports it, other than "I rub him the wrong way"
Basically with a scum lynch day 1, I'm okay with lynching any one I'm not town reading, as I think through PoE we can find the final scum. But I'd only hammer someone I'm actually scum reading rather than just a light lean.
Not to mention I think there's plenty to still discuss today so hammering isn't to towns benefit.-
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This is also a weird post to me in light of Arnold's read list.In post 613, Papa Zito wrote:
If we're equivalent why not join me on Kawl?In post 591, Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote:I'm fairly confident the game ends after we lynch Zito/Kawl-
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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Well as there's literally one scum left, it really shouldn't matter who else is on the wagon. Clearly he's wrong about at least one of us.
On the other hand, people have spoken out in opposition to my lynch, so he's not likely going to find traction there. Instead of parking his vote on me he could instead attempt to push you, since you're still a possibility and if we're truly equally scumread as his posts seem to indicate then he still accomplishes the goal of getting a scumread lynched. Therefore I find his lack of vote movement puzzling.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Tchill13 Survivor
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And sure he is wrong about at least one of us, but it still means he believes that one of us is more than likely arguing in bad faith compared to cece who he believes is most likely arguing in good faith. Just because he is wrong about one of us doesn't mean neither if our opinions take a hit from his point of view before a flip.-
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Will put one together tonight after reading and getting more solid views of jjh and zito and Arnold.In post 621, Tchill13 wrote:Kawl can you do a read list?
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