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[Mulch]

Boonskiies thoughts on my Moz read?

[Boonskiies]

Wait, hold on. Did Nos just vote Rhaz in response to Titus pointing out that a Priscilla post was disgusting?

I believe it was Titus pointing out that a Rhazh post and the Priscilla post are bad.

But if you read my Nos read you will see that I think she has actually been one of the most scummy players this game in general. Can you look at that and see thoughts?

I stated in my color wheel that if I'm wrong on some of my town reads, then it would be Nos and Gamma, so I get the Nos scum reads.

[Boonskiies]

I think Moz is scum as hell. Sure, she's abrasive, but he wasn't getting any major attention to himself thus far. I don't think he expected people to turn on him for pushing myself or mush. He's always joining in on wagons after they have been established (mush and myself), and is just generally scummy. so I don't think he was putting himself in the line of fire, tbh.

[Mulch]

I think Moz is scum as hell. Sure, she's abrasive, but he wasn't getting any major attention to himself thus far. I don't think he expected people to turn on him for pushing myself or mush. He's always joining in on wagons after they have been established (mush and myself), and is just generally scummy. so I don't think he was putting himself in the line of fire, tbh.

Actually a pretty good point (it would negate the aggresive part that I am townreading her for), but what about her post about attacking 2 people and calling them scumbuddiesat once. How can you see scum doing that and angering two people

[Mulch]

In general scum is always laying low and just trying not to get attention, and calling every single person poS scum is like the opposite of that

[Mulch]

THIS WAS MY RHAZH READ UP TO LIKE half of this game so far, in case anyone is interested in what pinged me before.

Rhazh:

Spoiler:

Again, motivation and authenticity. Let's get into it. SO, I have been gutscumming Rhazh the entire game. I go into this read wanting to articulate it.
First, starts off with an "I am scum meme." Maybe I am paranoid, but I sort of...just forget it. lol. Anyways, his obsession over policy lynches is NAI ( I know Rhazh). He then already starts off with pre flip analysis when he says we shoudl lynch Gamma or a pusher of Gamma. This is scummy in the motivation category- it allows him to attack people and put blame if Gamma flips town at the same time. Lack of authenticity. "Probably..." and then a weak statement. Wants to stay off the radar. Townreads me early for no reason. What had I town that warranted a town read? I am VERY suspicious of early town reads on me; I have seen scum buddy to me too much. This again, is a negative in the MOTIVATION category. Really weak defenses in everything she does. Scumreads Moz for the most ridiculous reason; again, logic is not neccearily AI but the fact I just feel like he is not really feeling it when he says "I seriously doubt Moz as town would be making so many weak scumreads,". It's hard to articulate but the "doubt" the "seriously" the just lack of emphasis, etc. Acknoledges he is doing pre flip, which is at least a little townie. AGAIN townreads someone for absolutely no reason. WHY AREN't YOU DOING ANY gut SCUM readsm besdies once- Dunstral?? Needed to explain for scumreads but not for townreads is, again, a motivation problem.

Town posts: 753- the secocond part when he says "more pre flip..."

Scum posts: The ther part of 753, 85, 117,753 853

Remember, these are only really notable town or scum pings

Read:

High Scum

[Boonskiies]

I think Moz is scum as hell. Sure, she's abrasive, but he wasn't getting any major attention to himself thus far. I don't think he expected people to turn on him for pushing myself or mush. He's always joining in on wagons after they have been established (mush and myself), and is just generally scummy. so I don't think he was putting himself in the line of fire, tbh.

Actually a pretty good point (it would negate the aggresive part that I am townreading her for), but what about her post about attacking 2 people and calling them scumbuddiesat once. How can you see scum doing that and angering two people

I mean, I do that as scum. I love getting people angry; it makes you come off as TvT.

[Boonskiies]

Also gives you a reason to tunnel onto that person and enable said person. Then when you get to the point of trying to do other things, they still are angry because yours was created, and then you come off as town, and then people will reconsider their town read on said person.

[Boonskiies]

In general scum is always laying low and just trying not to get attention, and calling every single person poS scum is like the opposite of that

at the same time, this is exactly why scum wouldn't lay low. Once something becomes a norm, it changes in Mafia.

[Nosferatu]

Why is Nos hopping onto the lynchbait with the worst possible reason?

I don't see the problem with the reason.

Wait, hold on. Did Nos just vote Rhaz in response to Titus pointing out that a Priscilla post was disgusting?

yes and no. bash and priscilla both made terrible posts, but I thought bash's was scummier.

[Boonskiies]

Fair enough.

[WhyMafia]

but you pick on the easiest players

Didn't we argue this in the newbie game as well?
Going after easy players is not equivalent to scum lol

[WhyMafia]

barely are scumreading at all.

I assume you mean scum hunt. I call them as I see them. I think someone is scum, I pursue said person as scum

[WhyMafia]

have tons of doubtcast language

That's just my personality.
All in all, as a medium scum read, your case lacks substance

[Nosferatu]

Nosferatu: Memes. 126 pings scum. Why need to say that? Already excuse behavior. 129 is the same meme 3 times. In my experience scum do this way more than town. 152 mechanics talk. 196 still stating objective statements. 210 4th time? 228 is doubtcast language. 451 and 487 are both doudbcast langauge. 580 pings town. 1461 is good aggresive language. 1467 weird thing to harp on. 1470 naked votes indicator of town. 1572 is absolutely horrible.

I'm apparently one of the scummiest players in the game because of memes and "doubtcast language" that isn't actually casting doubt on anything whatsoever. One is answering a question (with hedging language if anything), and the other isn't casting doubt either. I honestly think you quoted the wrong thing when you said 228, because I'm trying really hard, and I can't see how you'd get doubtcasting from that post. I really can't.

This is a really shitty case and it looks like you put way less effort in this one compared to your previous ones. The quality took a huge drop and it looks like you just made this post just to get it out there.

[Nosferatu]

In fact, it feels like you wrote the read section and then found posts that supported that instead of the other way around.

[WhyMafia]

In fact, it feels like you wrote the read section and then found posts that supported that instead of the other way around.

I agree
His reads almost seem forced

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Titus
I re-checked both ISO's
I don't like Rhaz's wagon too much, and I scum read Cpt more, so I'm going with my original scum read

[Mulch]

but you pick on the easiest players

Didn't we argue this in the newbie game as well?
Going after easy players is not equivalent to scum lol

It's a scumtell because it means your not actually scumhunting, you can go for someone easy that everone is scumreading and just blend in while aslo pushing amislynch

[Mulch]

I think Moz is scum as hell. Sure, she's abrasive, but he wasn't getting any major attention to himself thus far. I don't think he expected people to turn on him for pushing myself or mush. He's always joining in on wagons after they have been established (mush and myself), and is just generally scummy. so I don't think he was putting himself in the line of fire, tbh.

Actually a pretty good point (it would negate the aggresive part that I am townreading her for), but what about her post about attacking 2 people and calling them scumbuddiesat once. How can you see scum doing that and angering two people

I mean, I do that as scum. I love getting people angry; it makes you come off as TvT.

Me too

[Mulch]

In general scum is always laying low and just trying not to get attention, and calling every single person poS scum is like the opposite of that

at the same time, this is exactly why scum wouldn't lay low. Once something becomes a norm, it changes in Mafia.

It's WIFOM to a point, true, but I still notice the prevelance. That's where you need to go into authenticity. Do you REALLY believe these statements you are making?

[Mulch]

barely are scumreading at all.

I assume you mean scum hunt. I call them as I see them. I think someone is scum, I pursue said person as scum

You haven't done it this game then

[Mulch]

have tons of doubtcast language

That's just my personality.
All in all, as a medium scum read, your case lacks substance

Your entire ISO lacks substance

[Nosferatu]

Point being: razh person is a shit lynch when Titus is obv scum by default. So is gamma. Nobody pays attention, because it's always the person that screams loudest rather than the one with common sense who prevails. You should be ashamed of yourselves for all the games you help speed toward losses though, and when scum, realize it cheapens the scum win as well to outsmart sheep.

You haven't given anyone a single reason to think bash is town, yet you continue to champion them as such, as you have been throughout this entire game. Why?

[Mulch]

Nosferatu: Memes. 126 pings scum. Why need to say that? Already excuse behavior. 129 is the same meme 3 times. In my experience scum do this way more than town. 152 mechanics talk. 196 still stating objective statements. 210 4th time? 228 is doubtcast language. 451 and 487 are both doudbcast langauge. 580 pings town. 1461 is good aggresive language. 1467 weird thing to harp on. 1470 naked votes indicator of town. 1572 is absolutely horrible.

I'm apparently one of the scummiest players in the game because of memes and "doubtcast language" that isn't actually casting doubt on anything whatsoever. One is answering a question (with hedging language if anything), and the other isn't casting doubt either. I honestly think you quoted the wrong thing when you said 228, because I'm trying really hard, and I can't see how you'd get doubtcasting from that post. I really can't.

This is a really shitty case and it looks like you put way less effort in this one compared to your previous ones. The quality took a huge drop and it looks like you just made this post just to get it out there.

Doubtcast language falls under many categories, it's not specifically "doubt." Every time you speak you leave options open for more or look like you doubt your OWN statements, which allows you to not make firm stances and go back to them later. The meme is because you repeated the SAME MEME 4 times. This is an indication of scum feeling nervous. You nakedly town read people which scum do a LOT, and you barely give reason. The quality did not drop, btw, have you looked at your ISO? What exactly was I supposed to react on? You barely make any stances