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[Carcalilly]

I need to get a quick opinion out there, I'm honestly glad Mulch did that. Taking it seriously is wanting to get the game started, and start scum huntin'!
I don't see it as scummy.

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Nice buddy.

I had an opinion

[Carcalilly]

Ok so here is what I see

Klazam- Lurking????

Carcalilly defending Mulch
Empiricus defending TwoFace
Mulch possibility of bussing TwoFace

Wolfy catch up

Who the hell is Wolfy?

[Mulch]

And @Twoface,
Is that a strike... For what? For pressure, or is that a "this is scummy" strike? Do you have legitimate suspicion on Mulch?

scummy strike

dumbo lol

[Mulch]

You don't need to respond to everything I say lol

[TwoFace]

he seems to be trying to appear active without actually scumhunting

I really hate when people say this. Just cause I'm not scum hunting in a way you are used to doesn't mean I'm not scum hunting.

On one hand I like that I'm playing with people who don't know me or my style of play but on the other it gets really annoying sometimes cause people say things about me that just aren't true and my personality requires me to correct them.

[Mulch]

he seems to be trying to appear active without actually scumhunting

I really hate when people say this. Just cause I'm not scum hunting in a way you are used to doesn't mean I'm not scum hunting.

On one hand I like that I'm playing with people who don't know me or my style of play but on the other it gets really annoying sometimes cause people say things about me that just aren't true and my personality requires me to correct them.

Wrong, that's a valid point

[Mulch]

I am not going to continue this conversation after this post.

I literally just explained why it was stupid to think it was weird. and because of emp's question I explained why somebody in a different time zone shouldn't think it was weird. there is literally no logical explanation for anyone to think my opening post is weird, yet you have said you found it weird. So since you have no logical reason for thinking that, you get a strike against you.

there is nothing weird about saying good morning in the morning. do you go to work/school/whatever and think people are weird for saying that? no probably not so there is no reason to think it is weird here.

VOTE: TwoFace For being weird.

Wolfy

[TwoFace]

You don't need to respond to everything I say lol

Not everything you/or others say but I do have to respond to everything that involves me. Especially if it's untrue things.

[TwoFace]

Wrong, that's a valid point

Huh?

[TwoFace]

Anyway sleep is calling. Got a long day tomorrow

[Mulch]

Wrong, that's a valid point

Huh?

It's a valid scumread to be active without scumhunting

[TwoFace]

But I've been scum hunting

[TwoFace]

Just cause I'm not scum hunting in a way you are used to doesn't mean I'm not scum hunting.

[Carcalilly]

Trivium, you might wanna see this,

But my personal opinion on pushing for a Taco lynch:
-He's scummy, and I'm my opinion, has some claims against him that make him more likely to be scum. I've talked about this a lot.
-However, if he really is town, it could be policy-lynch like. It could clear him of suspicion and focus(so we can turn it elsewhere), stop the shitposts(if he doesn't start really playing' this game), and since he's such an active player, give great insight on the votes and wagons- who stayed on and who stayed off.

So the reason why I'm on this wagon is because I find the result to be the most beneficial for either alignment flip.

[Carcalilly]

You don't need to respond to everything I say lol

Why not?

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: SergeTacos

easy first vote

How is it "easy" to you...?

[Branson]

VOTE: Klazam

I'm now sensing he's scum this game. I don't have any evidence towards him yet but just a feeling.

If it was anybody else making this post, I'd jump on that instantly. The only reason Sergtacos gets off the hook here is because his thoughts have been so all over the place that posts like this look more like a personality tell than an alignment tell.

This vote wasn't actually REAL. it was to see some reaction. And due to some reaction i later decided to be serious about my vote on Klazam.

...You do realize that by downplaying the reasoning behind the vote, you're sabotaging your ability to get solid reactions, right?

[Tchill13]

Alright now we just need Fykus and boonskies to catch up and we'll have the whole gang here right?

[Tchill13]

Not crazy that trivium is defending sergtacos but his vote on Branson makes sense.

[Branson]

I wake up and am presented with a gift~

*snip*

The dissonance between this post and the last one I quoted from Carcalilly is making me nervous, especially since the overall tone between the two posts has changed in that short of an amount of time.

I honestly did find it a stupid topic. I guess I was just more casual in this post. I mean what I say, but if you'd like something more organized...

If you found it to be a stupid topic, then why did you show so much interest in it before when it was directly relevant to the game?

This post looks a lot more like trying to look busy than trying to figure out other people's thoughts. The way she's trying to unpack this situation is too... thorough, especially for an RVS interaction.

Yes, I was ready to get down to business. I know it's an RVS interaction, but this is the stuff early on out in the game as it gets started.
I thought it was a rather useless and NAI interaction, but I took it seriously, and acted with a serious tone, mainly because it's the push for the game to start. Otherwise, if I was just "lol this is stupid can we not"... That's not gonna bring us anywhere.

What did you gain from those questions and what changed between post 27 and 30 to make you go from that serious tone to outwardly admitting that the entire conversation was essentially pointless? That's the dissonance I'm talking about.

This post is pinging me big time. The way she asked me about my vote was very different than how she has been asking questions from others, but it was also said in more of a "Why would you vote x?" type of way than "Why did you vote x?"

Then after being called out on how she framed the question, she reframes it and turns it back to me. Very interesting.

Oh crap I actually missed the question about framing... I thought you were just asking why I posted.
And honestly... That's really up to interpretation. I didn't mean anything but "why". All I said was "And... Why." :/
Also, I just added than second part for clarification. Why, was it just a RVS or something else?

My entire issue with your play up to this point is that your tone keeps shifting in seemingly random ways at random times. What I don't understand about your post is why your tone suddenly shifted to be more blunt, especially since I voted somebody that hadn't even posted in the thread yet. It feels very off.

[Branson]

sigh.

I messed up the quote tags; all three of the Carcalilly posts are from #444.

[Branson]

Branson, you just came in, said a few things I agree with, such as being uncomfortable with unpacking RVS like that, but then again there's a few other people who did that, and I think the way you're voting Carcalilly seems a bit opportunistic. Not because you jumped on immediately, but because you jumped on out of nowhere with stuff that looks like it's supposed to make sense, but then doesn't really once I take more than a glance at it.

Hello everybody!

VOTE: Tchill13

Howdy!

And... Why.

I'm very curious as to why you framed this question the way you did. What motivation beyond idle curiosity drove you to make this post?

I like you

Imo mafia is this

super friendly

game where the warm welcome is a questioning.
So, welcome.

And please answer my question, was that a RVS?

This post is pinging me big time. The way she asked me about my vote was very different than how she has been asking questions from others, but it was also said in more of a "Why would you vote x?" type of way than "Why did you vote x?"

Then after being called out on how she framed the question, she reframes it and turns it back to me. Very interesting.

Like I don't get this. She asks whether a vote was RVS to I guess make an attempt at following a train of thought beyond random voting, then Branson posts 71 that just feels like it's supposed to sound suspicious, but not actually having any real substance unless you assume Carcalilly is trying to protect Tchill. That feels less like paranoia and more scummy to me.

I've already gone into my issues with that post, so I won't go into it again. What other posts have I made that you don't understand?

[Branson]

The Sergtacos self-meta thing is dead null. It's a personality tell, not an alignment tell.

Maybe that's what he wants you to think?

It's dead null because it's consistent with his overall play and I can't contribute his entire play towards either town or scum.

I could also go into how easy Sergtacos is to attack, but my read on the playerlist in this game is that there's enough inexperience around to make that a very weak indicator for scum at best.

[Branson]

I'm not suspecting him because of his personality... some of the stuff he said was just plain scummy, and it would be no matter who said it.

It's just a bad thing to be jumping on day 1, though, there are much

safer

options.

This is pinging.

[Branson]

VOTE: Carcalilly

Ok, but that's omgus.

What was the point of this post?