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[WhyMafia]

VOTE: transcend

Probably not AI, but the fact that he's like the third person to vote him for his vote on the IC is kinda meh imo
Just something to note for the future

Anyways, VOTE: Gamma
You've been in all my games except for the newbie ones I play

[WhyMafia]

PMysterious feels town.

This is also weird

[WhyMafia]

Damn a lot of these joined dates are pretty old xd

[WhyMafia]

scum: pisskop, gamma, tchill, mutton

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

and it is safe to assume that we are in multi-ball

How so?

[WhyMafia]

Catching up

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

Voting mod-confirmed town is scummy. It's similar to self-voting but much worse, much more pro-scum, because while a self-vote might lead to a meaningful wagon on yourself, voting mod-confirmed town leads to nothing, because mod-confirmed town isn't ever getting lynched. There's no possibility of deriving anything meaningful from Transcend's vote and that itself is scummy, it obscures his motives.

this is gross
Lynching transcend is like the easiest wagon
In addition, it's probably a joke vote? I think any player would realize voting a mod confirmed town is completely pointless. Considering it was RVS and the first post in the game, I don't think anything a player posts at that point in the game would have a motive
FoS

[WhyMafia]

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Four is town
Egg is too.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Gamma isn't.
That's the vote I shall do.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Reasoning?

[WhyMafia]

How so?

waste of tempo explaining that

?

[WhyMafia]

I don't know what that means but I'm just gonna assume no

Voting who the IC said he'd policy lynch when there's other decent votes on the table looks kinda shitty.

Agree with this

[WhyMafia]

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

Fair enough I suppose

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: whymafia

VOTE: whymafia

?
Are you trying to get a wagon on me to deflect off your scum bud?

[WhyMafia]

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

ego is annoying to you?
saying that is pretty poo
in fact, your other two posts are just about me too
overexplaining, sheeping ic, forcing a case, cool
trying to get an easy mislynch as scum
I'm not some homeless bum drunk on rum smelling like cum
I'm just your average townie being lynched by a fool
you flipping red will make me drool
if you had more posts perhaps they'd be fuel
for a case, but no, you're just a tool
me though? I'M not a tool, I rule
I am done derailing, but fr your team is failing

VOTE: lore

Oh god poetry

Do like his explanation though

[WhyMafia]

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

Really like this post
Reasoning that I could follow and understand. It also makes sense to me

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: transcend

on board

Yet you also thought gamma was scum? Nice chainsaw defense

[WhyMafia]

Lynching transcend is like the easiest wagon
In addition, it's probably a joke vote? I think any player would realize voting a mod confirmed town is completely pointless. Considering it was RVS and the first post in the game, I don't think anything a player posts at that point in the game would have a motive

The ease of a wagon has little to do with whether someone is scum. But the fact that you'd focus on a wagon's ease as opposed to the player's alignment, that's concerning.

Everyone has a motive for their posts, including RVS posts. Townies typically want to get out of RVS as quickly as they can, while scum don't really care how long RVS lasts, since they're just trying to avoid getting caught.

In my opinion it does. If scum have the opportunity to take an easy wagon, with solid reasoning they probably would. Meanwhile town would, or rather should, critically look and analyze everyone's posts, even if there's an easier lynch target. And I think it was obvious based on my other posts what I think on transcend (that he's null)
However, I don't like his wagon, which therefore is giving me a nulltown read (albeit very thin)

[WhyMafia]

Lynching transcend is like the easiest wagon
In addition, it's probably a joke vote? I think any player would realize voting a mod confirmed town is completely pointless. Considering it was RVS and the first post in the game, I don't think anything a player posts at that point in the game would have a motive

The ease of a wagon has little to do with whether someone is scum. But the fact that you'd focus on a wagon's ease as opposed to the player's alignment, that's concerning.

Everyone has a motive for their posts, including RVS posts. Townies typically want to get out of RVS as quickly as they can, while scum don't really care how long RVS lasts, since they're just trying to avoid getting caught.

Oh and
Regarding the RVS post then
Wouldn't his post have town motive in that it began discussion rather than continuing to troll around? Like a scum could have picked a random target, and nothing would've been thought of it. Meanwhile he has chosen to stimulate discussion right off the bat

[WhyMafia]

what is that picture tho
P-EDIT - referring to the VC, so many sudden posts XD

[WhyMafia]

In my opinion it does. If scum have the opportunity to take an easy wagon, with solid reasoning they probably would. Meanwhile town would, or rather should, critically look and analyze everyone's posts, even if there's an easier lynch target. And I think it was obvious based on my other posts what I think on transcend (that he's null)
However, I don't like his wagon, which therefore is giving me a nulltown read (albeit very thin)

If scum have the opportunity to take an easy wagon with solid reasoning on town, sure. But that assumes the person is town, something scum do but not town. If town think someone is scum, regardless of whether it's an easy wagon (and maybe precisely because it's easy and solid), they'll vote that person as quickly as scum would (and maybe quicker if the player is in fact scum). My point is that the ease of a wagon doesn't tell you much about the alignments the wagoners unless you have a clear read on the player (and you've been pretty clear that you've got Transcend as null, which means the ease of the wagon shouldn't be entering your analysis).

I just feel like this is a scum driven wagon. I am not sure how to articulate this properly, but I feel that the faults of Transcend's posts were grossly exaggerated
Gahhh I know what you mean, but I just don't know how to properly say what I am trying to say

[WhyMafia]

@WhyMafia - why'd you say my initial townread on PM was weird?

I don't see how these
8
15
Can give you a town read

[WhyMafia]

@WhyMafia - what do you think of Gamma?

Scummy

[WhyMafia]

I Like: Ginngie, Lore, PMysterious, WhyMafia, FourTrouble, Egg (in no particular order). Scummiest so far is Gamma.

I didn't vote because I did not catch up yet. Lets go for:

VOTE: Lexa

I'll be more active tomorrow.

Reasoning?

[WhyMafia]

I hard town read gamma
smd not gonna make a diorama
I think his wagon has at least two scum
who? dunno yet, but we'll find out dun dun dun

gamma is shitposting yes
and his play isn't blessed
that's pretty nai for him though
and from experience that's a primed scum hammer throw
shitposting can't often be misconstrued as scummy
take transcend, though anyways, usually only by dummies

What is this contradiction?
You say his behavior is NAI yet you hard town read him?

[WhyMafia]

I Like: Ginngie, Lore, PMysterious, WhyMafia, FourTrouble, Egg (in no particular order). Scummiest so far is Gamma.

I didn't vote because I did not catch up yet. Lets go for:

VOTE: Lexa

I'll be more active tomorrow.

Reasoning?

Lexa and Platinum are the only votes on Gamma on who I have no read. But since Gamma voted for Platinum it seems more natural (?) for me to vote for Lexa. I want to hear more from Lexa to solidify my read on the Gamma wagon.

I kind of understand what you're getting it? But shouldn't you ask Hernandez opinion on stuff then?

[WhyMafia]

I Like: Ginngie, Lore, PMysterious, WhyMafia, FourTrouble, Egg (in no particular order). Scummiest so far is Gamma.

I didn't vote because I did not catch up yet. Lets go for:

VOTE: Lexa

I'll be more active tomorrow.

Reasoning?

Lexa and Platinum are the only votes on Gamma on who I have no read. But since Gamma voted for Platinum it seems more natural (?) for me to vote for Lexa. I want to hear more from Lexa to solidify my read on the Gamma wagon.

I kind of understand what you're getting it? But shouldn't you ask Hernandez opinion on stuff then?

Her*
Wtf is autocorrect

[WhyMafia]

I hard town read gamma
smd not gonna make a diorama
I think his wagon has at least two scum
who? dunno yet, but we'll find out dun dun dun

gamma is shitposting yes
and his play isn't blessed
that's pretty nai for him though
and from experience that's a primed scum hammer throw
shitposting can't often be misconstrued as scummy
take transcend, though anyways, usually only by dummies

What is this contradiction?
You say his behavior is NAI yet you hard town read him?

that's not what a contradiction is
I didn't town read him for shitposting ya wiz

So why do you town read him?

[WhyMafia]

What's your fascination with Theta? She's barely posted. Hardly anything to form an opinion on. What do you think is insanely awkward about her 4 posts?

Her language is very halting. I get the sense she's scared to post, scared to fuck up.

Then look at 291. The words "okay wait," followed by her question, express concern. But there's no attempt to weigh in. Feels like she's pretending to care about Gamma's lynch. Contrived emotion, surrounded by a lots of nothingness.

Agree that she looks scummy

[WhyMafia]

I hard town read gamma
smd not gonna make a diorama
I think his wagon has at least two scum
who? dunno yet, but we'll find out dun dun dun

gamma is shitposting yes
and his play isn't blessed
that's pretty nai for him though
and from experience that's a primed scum hammer throw
shitposting can't often be misconstrued as scummy
take transcend, though anyways, usually only by dummies

What is this contradiction?
You say his behavior is NAI yet you hard town read him?

that's not what a contradiction is
I didn't town read him for shitposting ya wiz

So why do you town read him?

his wagon grew way too quick
sure, maybe it's a bussing trick
but he's not concerned with how he looks
not trying to appease people, not playing by the books
it's just somebody being lynched for playstyle
lynching shitposting before page 10, yall old and senile?
I disagree any of his content is inherently scummy
and as for the wagon as a whole? it's crummy
this is the kind of wagon led by red
it's easy to make someone like gamma dead
I firmly believe he's flipping green
don't lynch him please, that's mean

How can you keep posting like that xd
And what do you think about this post then?

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

[WhyMafia]

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

My platinum vote was to see who'd needlessly pick at it
You read too much into it, looks forced
VOTE: PMysterious

What seems forced about it? It seems genuine to me. I never understood the argument of calling something forced, and therefore the creator is scum. Town needs to analyze posts, do they not? You just dismissed her argument without saying anything specific

[WhyMafia]

It looks to me like you were caught out and hopped back on to him.

Only made worse by the idea that in a 21p game with several known lurkers and this site's crappy meta you put him at l-1.

I doubt some of the players have even read the game yet.

This is me at the moment but I'm reading the thread. Feel townie about ginngie and egg so far.

I have null for ginnigie. What makes you town read ginngie and egg?

[WhyMafia]

Vote Count 1.03

Gamma Emerald [7]:

PMysterious, WhyMafia, Egg, platinum, Transcend, Lapsa, Ginngie, Lexa

Transcend [4]:

PenguinPower, Tchill13, pisskop, massive

Crush [2]:

FourTrouble, Transcend

pisskop [1]:

Theta Alpine

texcat [1]:

Albert B. Rampage

platinum [1]:

Gamma Emerald

MuttonChopMagic [1]:

Lore,

WhyMafia [1]:

Vifam,

Lore [1]:

MuttonChopMagic

PenguinPower [1]:

texcat

Not Voting [1]:

Crush,

With

21

alive, it takes

11

to lynch.

Deadline ends in (expired on 2017-06-13 19:30:00) on

June 13th.

Mod Notes:

Holy fucking shit
I think we should ask ourselves "does scum get wagoned this fucking easy?" No it does not. My rushed wagon should indicate that I am Town.

Fair enough, but it could be WIFOM

[WhyMafia]

!:)

Spoiler:

Vote Count 1.03

Gamma Emerald [7]:

PMysterious, WhyMafia, Egg, platinum, Transcend, Lapsa, Ginngie, Lexa

Transcend [4]:

PenguinPower, Tchill13, pisskop, massive

Crush [2]:

FourTrouble, Transcend

pisskop [1]:

Theta Alpine

texcat [1]:

Albert B. Rampage

platinum [1]:

Gamma Emerald

MuttonChopMagic [1]:

Lore,

WhyMafia [1]:

Vifam,

Lore [1]:

MuttonChopMagic

PenguinPower [1]:

texcat

Not Voting [1]:

Crush,

With

21

alive, it takes

11

to lynch.

Deadline ends in (expired on 2017-06-13 19:30:00) on

June 13th.

Mod Notes:

Holy fucking shit
I think we should ask ourselves "does scum get wagoned this fucking easy?" No it does not. My rushed wagon should indicate that I am Town.

Fair enough, but it could be WIFOM

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

My platinum vote was to see who'd needlessly pick at it
You read too much into it, looks forced
VOTE: PMysterious

What seems forced about it? It seems genuine to me. I never understood the argument of calling something forced, and therefore the creator is scum. Town needs to analyze posts, do they not? You just dismissed her argument without saying anything specific

It looks to me like you were caught out and hopped back on to him.

Only made worse by the idea that in a 21p game with several known lurkers and this site's crappy meta you put him at l-1.

I doubt some of the players have even read the game yet.

This is me at the moment but I'm reading the thread. Feel townie about ginngie and egg so far.

I have null for ginnigie. What makes you town read ginngie and egg?

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

My platinum vote was to see who'd needlessly pick at it
You read too much into it, looks forced
VOTE: PMysterious

What seems forced about it? It seems genuine to me. I never understood the argument of calling something forced, and therefore the creator is scum. Town needs to analyze posts, do they not? You just dismissed her argument without saying anything specific

It looks to me like you were caught out and hopped back on to him.

Only made worse by the idea that in a 21p game with several known lurkers and this site's crappy meta you put him at l-1.

I doubt some of the players have even read the game yet.

This is me at the moment but I'm reading the thread. Feel townie about ginngie and egg so far.

I have null for ginnigie. What makes you town read ginngie and egg?

I don't know what that means but I'm just gonna assume no

Voting who the IC said he'd policy lynch when there's other decent votes on the table looks kinda shitty.

Agree with this

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

Fair enough I suppose

VOTE: whymafia

VOTE: whymafia

?
Are you trying to get a wagon on me to deflect off your scum bud?

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Four is town
Egg is too.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Gamma isn't.
That's the vote I shall do.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Reasoning?

scum: pisskop, gamma, tchill, mutton

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

and it is safe to assume that we are in multi-ball

How so?

Catching up

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

Voting mod-confirmed town is scummy. It's similar to self-voting but much worse, much more pro-scum, because while a self-vote might lead to a meaningful wagon on yourself, voting mod-confirmed town leads to nothing, because mod-confirmed town isn't ever getting lynched. There's no possibility of deriving anything meaningful from Transcend's vote and that itself is scummy, it obscures his motives.

this is gross
Lynching transcend is like the easiest wagon
In addition, it's probably a joke vote? I think any player would realize voting a mod confirmed town is completely pointless. Considering it was RVS and the first post in the game, I don't think anything a player posts at that point in the game would have a motive
FoS

oh, btw - what do you think of this post?

VOTE: transcend

Probably not AI, but the fact that he's like the third person to vote him for his vote on the IC is kinda meh imo
Just something to note for the future

Anyways, VOTE: Gamma
You've been in all my games except for the newbie ones I play

Damn a lot of these joined dates are pretty old xd

PMysterious feels town.

This is also weird

did I make it clear yet?

Not really!

[WhyMafia]

I don't see how TChill is town

[WhyMafia]

Not really!

try being more space efficient, please

it's plenty enough of a burden trying to decipher mutton

Why can't you just outright say something lol
I get that you're conf town, but town can better coordinate if we work together. 90% of your posts consist of questions or fluff like that

[WhyMafia]

Idk haven't read him

Then read me

[WhyMafia]

Not really!

try being more space efficient, please

it's plenty enough of a burden trying to decipher mutton

Why can't you just outright say something lol
I get that you're conf town, but town can better coordinate if we work together. 90% of your posts consist of questions or fluff like that

Well ok

@Transcend what is your read on WhyMafia?

Idk haven't read him

that's not enough

@mod: Frosty Dingleberries, mod, can you not let them do that?

you suspect anyone to continue doing that?

Lmao

[WhyMafia]

Im going to push your abhorrent disaster of a quote fest out of this page you can suck it

Can you post something game related plz

[WhyMafia]

on other news:

I'm certain that WhyMafia is town

wouldn't trust his opinion though

wow
That's mean :/

[WhyMafia]

so everyone jumped on transcend for voting lapsa as a rvs on post 1 where it was clear it would never happen. where are all the votes on abr and massive? do they get a pass because lapsa did the stupid quote-pyramid-spam?

mutton: lol you are SO focused on me, my vote is only on you at this point because i haven't seen a better place to put it.

[unv][/unv]

does that make you feel better? I still think you are focused on me because of OMGUS and nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise. I have my eye on you still.

Tchill: i think its kinda scummy that you didn't even read the VERY FIRST POST once the game started. Thats not some weird modconfirmed town in the middle of a page like 400 posts in, it was post 1.

I dunno how anyone could get to this point in the game and not townread me.

I dont like this post. It really rubs me the wrong way.

idk, i need to do a reread, so much shitposting to wade through and i dont even have my tall boots on....

this is caught scum one hundred percent lol
someone help me wagon him im alone yall

How so? I actually quite like the post

[WhyMafia]

Can someone tell me why Lore is scum read?

[WhyMafia]

Aka been following the thread on my phone, haven't invested time into creating independent thoughts yet

As gamma said, what was the point in joining the wagon if you don't even know why that person was scum?

[WhyMafia]

@Egg - couple questions.

Why's ABR/Mutton town?

Why is Theta more town than Tex, PM, or Transcend?

Why's Piss scum?

Why's WhyMafia scum?

ABR is consistent with what I've seen in his town game. His scum game is a little more lurky and vote hoppy. He tunnels more as town and while I don't agree with him about ginngie, I believe that he believes his case.

Mutton is hard to read because of his gimmick, but he seems to be going out on a limb with gamma and thinking for himself with lore. I have a soft spot for people who go against the grain and he's kind of doing that.

Theta is pretty null for me. People are scumreading her posting style which I don't get and the fact that she's above those names has more to do with them than her. I had issues with tex's comments about the lapsa votes, specifcally her lack of opinion on it but choice to comment anyway. I had issues with pmyst's early posting although he's gotten better and I feel like I remember misreading him in a past game before. And Transcend's overreaction to pisskop kind of sucked.

Pisskop had a couple of cases of buddying that stood out to me. First with ABR and then with lapsa. It doesn't sound like much, but they were pretty blatant cases of it and the second could be an attempt to pocket the IC.

Whymafia is a hard one to explain because it's mostly a tone read. It's like he's...I dunno, struggling to fit in? Does that make sense? Like his focus is on blending rather than catching scum.

Regarding your read on me, may I ask you to elaborate on "blending in?"
Regarding Mutton, I agree
Regarding ABR, I feel like that's NAI. As scum, he can justify his behavior with this meta. He hasn't done anything Pro-Town to my knowledge

[WhyMafia]

actually, Id like to hear from the vanities, get lynches and opinions about posts and statements, and then lynch. We got enough today for the most part.

Too much of this site likes to draaaaag the days out.

I don't like this post
We still haven't consolidated on one person to lynch
In addition, there's no town motivation for ending day substantially earlier
VOTE: Pisskop
AMA

[WhyMafia]

What is AMA
Also I don't think pk's post is scummy

Ask me anything on why I voted her/him
And what's towny/NAI about it?

[WhyMafia]

massive: OK people we need less vanity votes
WhyMafia: *moves off of a wagon onto a vanity vote with a player with six posts and an RVS*

Just kill me now.

but
he/she has 45 posts and has been active

[WhyMafia]

It's just suggesting focusing on the current wagons. I'd be a little miffed if I believe none were on scum but I'm voting one so I don't really object. As for ending the day early I feel some might need to weigh in more but that's p much it.

I guess .... it's still a bad post imo

[WhyMafia]

massive: OK people we need less vanity votes
WhyMafia: *moves off of a wagon onto a vanity vote with a player with six posts and an RVS*

Just kill me now.

but
he/she has 45 posts and has been active

Your vote is a vanity vote.

If I say just exactly that you will say "oh no it's a wagon, Theta is on it with me."

Theta has six posts and the vote is RVS.

HENCE

It's not a wagon. It's you vanity voting. Knock it off.

Oh I see what you mean. I am not calling it a wagon. We're not anywhere near deadline, so there's no need for me to vote on one of the main wagons yet. In addition, I view pisskop as scum. Are you telling me not to vote for those who I perceive to be scum?

[WhyMafia]

it's about the timing gin
right as your hypothetical buddy starts getting wagoned you come in
attack one of the voters, aka indirectky detailing the wagon
plus it absolved you of having to take a stance on lore, game on

^^

[WhyMafia]

Lol.

Some people just cant howdo solve game.

Instead of making efforts, whymaf is going to make an easy vote for theory reasons this late in the day?

What in the world does this have to do with effort?
A) What constitutes an easy vote
B) I specifically said anyone could ask me to elaborate lol
C) It's not close to deadline

Try again!

[WhyMafia]

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

and I never expressed a town read on lexa
so again, why are you being so perplexing

cuz my ass was trying to sort Lexa and I don't get why I was getting shit for it.

Then when I see people just not give an utter shit about what I'm concerned about, I ask what's going on with the current wagon so I can actually engage with ya'll and I'm scum read for it.

But why were you trying to sort her/shift the conversation as a wagon was springing up?

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Theta

I'm not calling Theta town, but is it really worth to push a lynch on him when there are other possibilities? In my head, he has had one bad post. Anyone can do that regardless of alignment. If he gets away scot free by d2/d3 without posting any thoughts/prodging, then we have a problem. At this stage of the game however, I feel like pushing a lynch on Theta is a hinderance at best

[WhyMafia]

Oh gosh
FourTroubke actually convinced me
VOTE: Theta
This is a genuine case and uses the same type of reasoning that caught a really good scum in a newbie game I played

[WhyMafia]

The only thing I disagree with is the doubtcast language
I have a tendency to do that regardless of alignment

[WhyMafia]

The passive language, vote count interest (although in second thoughts it could be just that she was being observant as town), and the lack of interest in scumhunting (probs hypocritical of me tbh. But I usually don't go after someone until I'm 90% sure that said person is scum)

[WhyMafia]

The only thing I disagree with is the doubtcast language
I have a tendency to do that regardless of alignment

Take a look at your games. You probably do it more as scum.

Nope
I've rolled scum in one game (which was role madness)
The only reason I lived was cause of my fake claim

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Theta

I'm not calling Theta town, but is it really worth to push a lynch on him when there are other possibilities? In my head, he has had one bad post. Anyone can do that regardless of alignment. If he gets away scot free by d2/d3 without posting any thoughts/prodging, then we have a problem. At this stage of the game however, I feel like pushing a lynch on Theta is a hinderance at best

Why would you not push him? Either he responds adequately and we move somewhere else or he fails to do so and you've got yourself a successful lynch candidate. You can't really say "oh he's had one bad post" when he's only made like six of them

Because he might be genuinely inactive and we would just be wasting time. The next he posts, we would pounce.

[WhyMafia]

Can you please explain your vote more because this is extremely fucking vague.

don't give a fuck

.............

It's in town's best interest for you to explain

[WhyMafia]

Lapsa I think it will help if you actually tell us why you have a strong scum read on gamma

[WhyMafia]

Lapsa I think it will help if you actually tell us why you have a strong scum read on gamma

didn't you already said that?

I did but you haven't given any reasons yet

Like frankly, you're being anti-town, and if you weren't confirmed, I would totally lead a lynch on you

Stop taking being confirmed town for granted. You're still obligated to help us gamesolve

[WhyMafia]

each and every person attacking lapsa who hasnt been in multiple games with him is being lazy andor ignorantly following along


in social games you have to explore the standard other layers set. especially when they have immunity

First time playing with him. He's usually like this?

[WhyMafia]

attacking the damn ic instead of ignoring a player you dont like.

and scum cam easily join in for extra credits

But I don't see why we should ignore lapsa
He's confirmed town. We can gen assured that he's not trying to manipulate us to mislynch, and his reads are most likely genuine (unless pulling a gambit)

I don't like these last few posts, because not only does this post have bad connotations, the other posts are buddying up to lapsa

[WhyMafia]

Stop taking being confirmed town for granted

and this is why your opinion is worthless

Sigh

[WhyMafia]

Why can't town be clear with one another, I never understood that about this site.

[WhyMafia]

Why can't town be clear with one another, I never understood that about this site.

because scum can use that

Without giving reasons for a read, you're practically giving no read. Town will never go along with a lynch based on unknown reasons (scum might though!)

[WhyMafia]

id lynch whymaf today based on his oppurtunistic scumreads

lol I scumread you
"Oppertunistic"
So you admit your play has been scummy?

[WhyMafia]

metadive me bro, and stop being ignorant andor lazy andor oppurtunistic

but, jsyk, good luck getting me roped. youve got every single veteran whom i share significant history with to.get through before you can claim the distinction of roping me.

What's a metadive?

[WhyMafia]

id lynch whymaf today based on his oppurtunistic scumreads

I find him genuine

can't imagine #570 coming from a scum mindset

emotional, aimless, over the top, self righteously disobedient and consistent in his noble aspiration to scumhunt

[WhyMafia]

Everyone is towny this game

Is the only person you scum read lore?

[WhyMafia]

@everyone

do a quick iso through town Transcend on NY196

single #49 shows more involvement than all of his posts here combined

this is scum Transcend - bold and shallow

What does scum transcend look like?
This definitely looks different, I just am hesitant because I doubt he would have such a noticeable difference

[WhyMafia]

did i just break my read-every-post rule the post after i made it
f---

transcend=town-null
i do not like the short posts but you do seem to be game solving
also why do so many of you seem to be self-voting i really do not get that

Where did he game solve?

[WhyMafia]

I honestly think Tchill is town
He's made dumb mistakes, not scum mistakes
I see little scum motivation in his ISO posts

It's honestly stupid to push a lynch on him

[WhyMafia]

Here's a thought let's just lynch abr for doing absolutely nothing.

That can come as a last resort

[WhyMafia]

Wait
um
not sure if this is allowed
but um
theta isn't alive in any game apart from here from what I see

[WhyMafia]

Wait
um
not sure if this is allowed
but um
theta isn't alive in any game apart from here from what I see

Just realized I should've PM'ed Boon first
DONT BAN ME PLZ

[WhyMafia]

Wait
um
not sure if this is allowed
but um
theta isn't alive in any game apart from here from what I see

Well shit

Wait
is that bannable

[WhyMafia]

Wait
um
not sure if this is allowed
but um
theta isn't alive in any game apart from here from what I see

Well shit

MERCY
PLEASE
MERCY
DONT LET THEM TAKE ME

[WhyMafia]

Explain scum PMysterious please

I don't see anything wrong from a light skim of the ISO

[WhyMafia]

4T the thing you see as a slip is actually my strongest point for Theta!town

How does that make Theta town?

[WhyMafia]

i think i will jump on the theta wagon. i think tchill is scummy af but i am not sure if thats cause he is BAD or cause he is scum. the lapsa vote, the transcend vote, and the having to ask TWICE about lapsa make me suspicious. transcend deciding to get super buddy on mutton also looks weird. particularly:

hi,
still happy with my vote guise

hi,
still happy with my vote guise

(for the record they are both voting for me at the time that they say this.)

on the other hand, i have several reasons for deciding theta is the best bet today.

1. i hate post 1175 - i dont like the 4t vote and i think theta blatantly misrepresents what 4t is doing. she also seems so willing to vote for him based on a simple wording question i pointed out. i still find the wording odd but considering the rest of 4ts extensive posting history i think this is one small question, not the basis of a vote. he isn't bashing people who disagree so much as wanting to have a conversation and trying to convince. In fact, i am hard pressed to find any posts where he is even rude to people who disagree with him. there is the pisskop vs 4t post where 4t tries to measure epeens but thats as close to "bashing" as it gets.

2. post 1077 - she says transcend is "town null" because he is "game solving". Later she provides "evidence" but the evidence are shitty single lined posts. for example:

thx for that informative post massive

great "game solving" /s

3.

okay wait why do we have someone this close to lynch this early day 1

thought i already said my read on gamma
okay so that post does not look like a read but okay i thought 291 would be enough for people to figure out my read

i do not have much meta experience with gamma other than a currently active game so uh
yeah i do not know
gut tells me town though

291 was nothing. this isnt really a reason to scum read someone. it just bugs me.

4. 4ts explanation in 1128 and 1191 re: associative. I also think it is important to note that 4t isn't saying ANYONE is lynch-able based on what theta flips as and I also don't think anyone is lynchable based on what theta flips as. but his explanation did make a lot of sense for why it furthered his reads - not initiated his reads.

5. 4t also does 2 good posts breaking down the theta posts and why he finds them scummy. they seem genuine as well. I am happy to hear arguments in other directions but going back through i feel like this is a solid vote d1.
VOTE: Theta

This seems a lot more elaborate than it needed to be. What was the point in all this?

[WhyMafia]

I feel like Pm's case is being exaggerated out of proportion
PM made posts that seems like misguided, but town driven

[WhyMafia]

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

Like this is town trying to game solve. Sure, it's reachy. But the first major push of any game will be reachy. Kudos for daring to make this post late RVS

[WhyMafia]

But if that's not enough, consider the Gamma comparison. Theta compared Gamma's behavior in this game with Gamma's behavior in another game. To compare that behavior, Theta must've known Gamma's alignment in at least one of the games. Which game? It must've been this one because Gamma hasn't flipped in the other game. And you know what that means. It means Theta's scum here, regardless of her skill, because this isn't the sort of tell that reflects on her skill, it's a straight-up slip.

or you know i might possibly have access to a spoiled dead thread

lore=null
i get why people have scum-read him in the past
and some of his posts have been less than stellar
but i have a gut feeling lore is town
and he does seem to actually be engaged in the game unlike some people

ummm
please stop regarding the ongoing game

[WhyMafia]

...

This seems a lot more elaborate than it needed to be. What was the point in all this?

explaining my vote? bc i said i was going to reread to decide and thats where i landed? and i wanted to be clear about it? why would i not be clear about my reasons for voting? it hurts nothing

meh fair enough

[WhyMafia]

Hey I never said I knew you were scum. Simply said I'm not against lynching you because I don't have a good town read on you. I still believe vedith's slot and lore are scummier than you at the moment. It's hard to read pushes on me because I'm scummy af but scum know I'm town.

What makes you SR Vedith?

[WhyMafia]

People I'm for lynching: theta, lore, pmysterious

People I'm not against lynching: penguin, abr, pisskop, gamma, crush

People I am against lynching: egg, Lexa, four trouble, Transcend, massive, Ginngie

People I can't decide on: whymafia, texcat

On this reads list, you're not mentioning him
What changed within these posts?

[WhyMafia]

May I stay? I'd like some more milkshake.

How are you able to keep up in so many games?
Just two-three is stressful for me

Extremely sorry for the low activity on my part
Finals are not helping :/

[WhyMafia]

You love that he didn't vote Gamma despite reading him as scum? What's town about that?

I see that as Town, because that's not a vote on the wagon that could have lead to an early lynch. Had he voted, it could have lead to an early lynch, and not much discussion, which is something Scum want, and not Town.

Oh.

Ya know, this is a really bad reason to town read someone and I have no idea how you came up with it.

Agreed
If you don't vote someone that you consider scummy ...

And it's not limiting discussion if it's not a hammer/L-1

[WhyMafia]

Definitely may not be the best word, but contribution is key in a game of Mafia, and Theta showed a lot of that. Had he stayed, I think he'd be really good at keeping contributions up.

Effort is not equivalent to alignment
I've been the victim of that
Remember FireBringer's game, Gamma?

[WhyMafia]

May I stay? I'd like some more milkshake.

How are you able to keep up in so many games?
Just two-three is stressful for me

Extremely sorry for the low activity on my part
Finals are not helping :/

I have no life that's why

Oh

of course you don't, what did I expect


jkkkk

[WhyMafia]

Definitely may not be the best word, but contribution is key in a game of Mafia, and Theta showed a lot of that. Had he stayed, I think he'd be really good at keeping contributions up.

Effort is not equivalent to alignment
I've been the victim of that
Remember FireBringer's game, Gamma?

Uhh which one?

Large normal
I got hammered in LYLO cause I had the worst contributions

[WhyMafia]

Definitely may not be the best word, but contribution is key in a game of Mafia, and Theta showed a lot of that. Had he stayed, I think he'd be really good at keeping contributions up.

Effort is not equivalent to alignment
I've been the victim of that
Remember FireBringer's game, Gamma?

Uhh which one?

Large normal
I got hammered in LYLO cause I had the worst contributions

The one with NotFury/LaLight

[WhyMafia]

Definitely may not be the best word, but contribution is key in a game of Mafia, and Theta showed a lot of that. Had he stayed, I think he'd be really good at keeping contributions up.

Effort is not equivalent to alignment
I've been the victim of that
Remember FireBringer's game, Gamma?

Uhh which one?

Large normal
I got hammered in LYLO cause I had the worst contributions

UH now I'm completely lost

Hmm lemme find a link
Unless you weren't in that game ... which makes things awkward

[WhyMafia]

That was a mini normal
Also I know jack shit about the play that game
But okay

Oops
I am stupid
*Lemme go back to my little hole*

[WhyMafia]

I mean
I

think

the same happened in 1905

True

[WhyMafia]

Question:
Am I the only one that thinks Tex is scum?
Sorry, it's just the volume of posts make it quite hard to fully grasp what's going on in the game

[WhyMafia]

Now that's out of the way we should focus on lynching WhyMafia.
Give your objections and say why otherwise get to voting.

I object

[WhyMafia]

Im not at a PC right now so I'm not quoting however...
WhyMafia lacks any real content or Scum hunting. When I was originally speaking with Pisskop, WhyMafia pinged me as Oppornist for his ridicules vote. Every time WhyMafia speaks about a player being Scum it's more of a question to try an see a general opinion or just very passive.
I have no understanding of what level WhyMafia has with the game and like I just said, he has no content including moving the game forward or resolving.
I'll have to go over the posts with Scum calling or voting which may explain it better.

I understand your case. I would vote the person the acts the way I did.
Unfortunately I am town.
It's quite hard to keep up with a lot of active players. On top of that, I'm spending most of my time studying my butt off for finals. I'll be more engaged in about a week from now (last finals are next friday), but I'll give out my reads. There might be a few nulls that ought to have been sorted, but my mind is just blank at them rn
And which of my votes are ridiculous? When I believe in someone to be scum, I will vote them. If I don't believe them to be scum, I won't vote them
Simple as that

[WhyMafia]

I also kind of hate his soft-defense of Transcend during the "let's vote Transcend for voting the IC" phase of the early game. He's definitely more invested in defending Transcend than I think even Transcend was.

This is probably a good direction to go if we aren't lynching Tchill.

If you're calling me opportunistic, then my defense of him was anything but that. It would've been ridiculously easy to ignore the wagon. I felt like the wagon was scum driven, and that Transcend didn't deserve a wagon

[WhyMafia]

Btw I appreciate that you are studying and that is why I never commented on your activity.

<3
I'll be engaged today, as I just had my hardest final earlier today. I deserve a little breather
Anything you want me to comment on?
I'll post a reads list ASAP

[WhyMafia]

And the "questioning scumread check" is another good one, since he just did it with Texcat:

Because I scum read him, but didnt have time to articulate why. And I didn't see anyone else point it out, so I asked the question. You could've asked why I scum read him. Anyways, I'll post why

[WhyMafia]

When he's on Gamma's wagon, he is happy to call other people (specifically Tchill) scum but he is stuck to the Gamma wagon. When he finally decides to abandon the Gamma wagon it's onto pisskop for something abstract and (more questionably) NOT onto Tchill who has a counterwagon at that time. But he never really pushes pisskop -- just makes a few snarky answers.

Well I didn't understand what was town about Tchill. I have changed my mind and I do TR him now though. Regarding Pisskop, yeah I suppose. She hasn't done anything super scummy, but a few of her posts had pinged scum to me.

[WhyMafia]

In

wow this is really oppurtunistic.

How do you separate multiball hunting from singleball?

How is it opportunistic?

[WhyMafia]

1. pisskop

- Some of her posts pinged me. It's not a concrete scum lean, more like a null scum (but closer to scum)
Why?
105 It may not mean much, but it could be town giving a genuine compliment ... or scum subtly trying to influence the IC
163 178 179 I sense a little hypocrisy here. You scum read Gamma, but immediately went on Transcend.
224 Just seems a little unnatural.
267 272 I don't know, but this reeks. What happened to your own scum read of Gamma? You seemed to be only focusing on Transcend.
713 Seems like an easy af push. His only thing against him was the IC issue, and that's NAI.
757 Pisskop was that convinced that we found scum???? I don't think she even articulated why yet. Ending day early, when we had hardly had enough justification to lynch TChill seems stupid.
Ask me for more if needed.
Anyways, re-reading her ISO made me upgrade her to

scum lean

VOTE: Pisskop

[WhyMafia]

Nah we're only lynching Pisskop if its proven multi.
Regardless he's been Scum hunting and it's genuine.

Awe
I am convinced he is scum

[WhyMafia]

Hey guys. I'm going to skim read (because that's a lot of posts), but is there something extremely important?

WhyMafia is the favoured lynch of today if you wish to vote there.

Say what now

[WhyMafia]

Hey guys. I'm going to skim read (because that's a lot of posts), but is there something extremely important?

WhyMafia is the favoured lynch of today if you wish to vote there.

Say what now

VOTE: WhyMC accept it.

Wrong forum bud

Well...

SlingshotWaffles replaces Theta Alpine.

[WhyMafia]

Hey guys. I'm going to skim read (because that's a lot of posts), but is there something extremely important?

WhyMafia is the favoured lynch of today if you wish to vote there.

Say what now

VOTE: WhyMC accept it.

Wrong forum bud

Well...

SlingshotWaffles replaces Theta Alpine.

Nah
WhyMC is my name on another forum where I know sling from

[WhyMafia]

Multi ball?

Multiple scum teams I think

[WhyMafia]

I think Penguin is literally the easiest push to make on.
And I think Tex is scum
VOTE: Tex

[WhyMafia]

I think Penguin is literally the easiest push to make on.
And I think Tex is scum
VOTE: Tex

at this point in the day you are gonna have to explain that more... why do you think tex is who we should lynch? and if penguin is such an easy push why are they not closer to lynch?

Regarding Penguin:
I mean, he has been universally scum read for a while. It's just that there were other wagons. I could get on with a Penguin lynch as a compromise.

[WhyMafia]

Regarding Tex:
He has gone completely under the radar.
Post 135 was subtle buddying.
Post 186 was a naked vote over something minor at the time
Post 391 was a soft defense on Theta
Post 580 completely ignores the gamestate and tries to go back over the fiasco of voting the IC
Post 586 was another soft defense, and only focuses on the doubt cast language part of the read. Not the analysis of the posts
Post 645 was useless
Post 653 was useless/extremely minor scum hunting I guess ...
Post 776 was basically the same general reads, and his main lynch pool was pathetic. Lynching the 4 inactives?? And it doesn't make a single stance. He's saying he could vote 8 different people ...
Post 1196 appears to be useful, but it's not
Post 1388 was just shifting to the wagon, and consists with throwing shade at 4Trouble. it seems like he is subtly pushing him to get town cred after the lynch
Post 1606 and 1607 are useless
Post 1618 was just another question
Post 1626 he finally has one good post. Kinda fishy that it takes him so long to post a case though ..
Post 1631 kinda useless
Post 1791 obvious observation

[WhyMafia]

WhyMafia replaced Theta

Say what now

[WhyMafia]

WhyMafia replaced Theta

:cri:
I've always been in the game
I NEVER GET NOTICED GODDAMIT

WANT ME TO SPEAK LIKE YODA AGAIN GAMMA

[WhyMafia]

Ok I'm bad

Concur, I do
Much sadness, bestowed on me, you have

[WhyMafia]

Pretty sure there's scum between Lore, penguin and Pmysterious.

What happened to your scum read on me?

[WhyMafia]

5 more to go into Lore I believe.

less than that i think.

i am reading back on your whymafia reasoning and its possible im just bad but i see lots of you talking about whymafia and not lots of quotes or anything ON whymafia. maybe its just me, but whymafia jsut looks like an insecure kid, i dont see it yet. I am not AGAINST voting whymafia, i just need the evidence to feel confident doing it.

*Blinks*
I'm not insecure .... I think
:cri:
But I am a kid

[WhyMafia]

@Vedith your insistence on Lore not voting me is ridiculous. Transcend has the second highest amount of votes, of course she would want to vote him

[WhyMafia]

Like IDK I'm getting a scummy vibe off Vedith

[WhyMafia]

@Vedith your insistence on Lore not voting me is ridiculous. Transcend has the second highest amount of votes, of course she would want to vote him

Then why not PM?
If you read what I was saying.
This would put PM on more votes than Trans and a vote I would have been constable in doing.

Fair enough

[WhyMafia]

@Vedith your insistence on Lore not voting me is ridiculous. Transcend has the second highest amount of votes, of course she would want to vote him

Then why not PM?
If you read what I was saying.
This would put PM on more votes than Trans and a vote I would have been constable in doing.

Fair enough

No, no not fair enough.
Let's go on this more. You want to throw that I'm not sitting right with you.
Let's discuss it. Why am I not?

You say Lore is scum for not voting me
However, I am not even close to a wagon. This seems like pointless meandering that further wants to make Lore look like scum for bs reasons. I agree Lore has been scummy, but it seems that this argument is SvS.

[WhyMafia]

I think Lore is at L-2 or something

And the fact that she refuses to vote WhyMafia makes me believe that she's associated with him.

[WhyMafia]

I can vote Lore, but I am still extremely wary of Vedith

[WhyMafia]

Whymafia several people said you're scummy even though there's no wagon on you yet. I agree that whymafia is scummy.

LOL

So far the only case has been
"Blending in" which was really early by Egg
and
"Opportunistic scum votes" by Vedith
Like God at least tell give reasons for a scum read

[WhyMafia]

I can vote Lore, but I am still extremely wary of Vedith

You opportunist fuck.

LOL
Once again
Keep on parroting yourself Vedith, go ahead

[WhyMafia]

Vedith do you still that that's an association issue or just lore trying to get town cred for not voting whymafia?

WhyMafia is Scum.
If Lore is Scum which I highly believe then yes it is an association.

Go ahead!
Even if she is scum (which I must concur on y'all on this), you're using baseless associations.
A) A lack of voting me is not indicative. I was not the counter wagon
B) That is completely WIFOM
Why? Because she is simply throwing suspicions on me, resulting as a mis-lynch
By God, I just think you are tunneling me

[WhyMafia]

Vedith's new avatar reduces the amount of arrogance I see in his posts for some reason

For me it increases

[WhyMafia]

Vedith do you still that that's an association issue or just lore trying to get town cred for not voting whymafia?

WhyMafia is Scum.
If Lore is Scum which I highly believe then yes it is an association.

Go ahead!
Even if she is scum (which I must concur on y'all on this), you're using baseless associations.
A) A lack of voting me is not indicative. I was not the counter wagon
B) That is completely WIFOM
Why? Because she is simply throwing suspicions on me, resulting as a mis-lynch
By God, I just think you are tunneling me

Why would I not tunnel Scum?
Do you think I should tunnel town instead?

LOL
YOU ADMIT YOURSELF YOU ARE TUNNELING
YOUR WHOLE SCUM READ ON ME HAS BEEN "Opportunistic boo hoo1!!1111!"

[WhyMafia]

LOL
YOU ADMIT YOURSELF YOU ARE TUNNELING
YOUR WHOLE SCUM READ ON ME HAS BEEN "Opportunistic boo hoo1!!1111!"

I tunnel every game more or less. What about it?
Are you saying only Scum tunnel?

Nope!
It's anti-town!

[WhyMafia]

Hey, guys! Heated discussion is fine and all, but let's try and stay away from the direct insults. Let's not have anymore straight up "F**k you" posts.

Fu** you

[WhyMafia]

I'm down to lynch any of Waffles, Penguin, PM, WhyMafia, or Crush.

I'm not lynching Lore/Transcend. If forced to choose, I'd go with Transcend.

Why not Lore?

[WhyMafia]

And has anyone looked at my Tex case
*sigh*

[WhyMafia]

I'm down to lynch any of Waffles, Penguin, PM, WhyMafia, or Crush.

I'm not lynching Lore/Transcend. If forced to choose, I'd go with Transcend.

Why not Lore?

Why don't you Lore?

I never said I didn't scum read Lore

[WhyMafia]

I think I did and wasn't impressed

oh
ouch
I am hurt
Mind telling me why you think Tex is town then?

[WhyMafia]

Why not Lore?

Because there's at least 7 people I'd rather lynch.

Hm
I don't remember Crush too much
Is your case in your ISO? Or someone else's

[WhyMafia]

Oh god wtf. This sucks :/

@Boon
Terribly sorry that this happened :/

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: lapsa
Memes

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Tex

[WhyMafia]

Let's all be friends instead.
And why is everyone suddenly SR'ing Tex? I mean ...I think he's scum, but yesterday nobody supported me. What changed?

[WhyMafia]

all the votes on lore right here actually look pretty townie. Lessso the mutton one, but the tchill and gamma ones do all right.
Why's Tex rundown Trying to run up Tex when lore is in trouble.

I mean ... I was being called out for not scum hunting. I had a bit of time, so I looked for scum. When would've been a better time? A day before deadline?

[WhyMafia]

I actually like Tex's last post
Sigh
UNVOTE: All
I am gonna re-read the ending of D1

[WhyMafia]

In favor of waffle, enters D2 on texcat....

I wanted to see what all the fuss was about? Anyways I'm a little lost at this point. Texcat seemed scummy to me before so it wouldn't be terrible. If I was in favor of waffles I'd be voting waffles right now. I WAS in favor of waffles. Now I'm in favor of texcat.

What made you change your mind?

[WhyMafia]

For current and future note:

{Lapsa}

{nil}

{Albert B. Rampage, MuttonChopMagic-slot, Vedith}

{Fykus, Lexa, massive, Egg, Lore}

{Transcend}

{jjh927, WhyMafia, Crush, Pisskop}

{texcat, FourTrouble}

{Tchill13}

{SlingshotWaffles}

{Lapsa}

{ABR, Mutton, Trans}

{Egg, Lore, Vedith}

{Fykus/Gin, massive}

{jjh927/Gamma, Crush, Lexa}

{WhyMafia, FourTrouble}

{pisskop}

{SlingshotWaffles}

Popcorn to

FourTrouble

.

{Lapsa}

{Vedith, Egg}

{FourT, Pisskop, Ginngie, Massive}

{Tchill, ABR, Texcat, Transcend, WM}

{Mutton, Waffles, JJH, Lexa, Crush}

{PP}

I think that accounts for everyone, let me know if i missed someone

Waffles

and

4t

are still up as far as i can see

I think that accounts for everyone, let me know if i missed someone

Waffles

and

4t

are still up as far as i can see

Lapsa, Tchill

Transcend, Ginngie, Lore, Mutton

Egg, Lexa, Crush, 4T, Massive, JJH

PP, Vedith, Pisskop

ABR, WM, Tex

I used the players that Lore had in theirs, so I might've missed someone/gotten a replacement wrong.

Lapsa

Egg

Vedith, Lexa, Fykus, FourT***

Transcend, Shinobi*, Pisskop, Tchill

ABR, Penguin, Texcat, Massive, WhyMafia, JJH927

Lore**,

Waffles

* Yellow because I haven't really read Mutton's posts because they were headache inducing, so this slot can easily move
** Red because I don't see the logic in his claimed shot, can move if I were to ever understand
*** Will also move if I understand ^

On first glance, I can see that Crush has nothing unique about his reads list. Seems fishy to me. Nothing stands out as good or bad, they're just the same reads that have been floating around all game. I am gonna look at his ISO for more because I don't remember much about him, but he's just shot up my scum radar

[WhyMafia]

Scum abr tunneling waffles so hard so scum gets another free kill makes sense right?

VOTE: ABR

I'm not willing to put all my eggs in the SlingshotWaffles basket if we're wrong. We've already lynched 1 PR. I don't want to risk lynching another. Abr has just tunneled him from the start of this day phase. No real case from him he's just making everyone else do his work. I just think this is too huge a gamble after the night 1 pr lynch and abr obviously is okay with the risk. Red flag to me.

Imo it's disturbing that nobody is except for you
Town points for tchill

[WhyMafia]

I got a VT result from Tchill and healed him.
He's Town.

I need clarification on your role.
Do you get a vanilla result or vanilla town result?
Do you know that you healed Tchill (mod confirmed)?

Vanilla Townie result.

Yeah it's mod conf that I healed him.

Tex, my understanding is that he is told whether or not his action succeeds, not whether or not his target was attacked.

My action went through. I have no idea if he was actually attacked.

?????
"It's mod conf I healed him"
"I have no idea if he was actually attacked"
Like I am ususally opposed to lynching a PR but he's flat out lying
VOTE: Sling
Nobody seems to want to kill Crush or Tex at the moment

[WhyMafia]

I'm not lying because it is mod confirmed that I healed him. I just have no idea if he was attacked or not, and I saved him.

....
Doesn't "heal" imply that he was attacked?
And what kind of role is a role that invests and heals???

[WhyMafia]

Nobody seems to want to

kill

Crush or Tex at the moment

WhyMafia is scum here.
Once he flips read I'm lock towning the other 3 on his wagon and the next 2 people to vote him.

The fact that you're resorting to that just goes to show how little substance you have

And what happens when I flip green? Are you going to just let everything go? After all, you can never be wrong!

[WhyMafia]

I'm not lying because it is mod confirmed that I healed him. I just have no idea if he was attacked or not, and I saved him.

....
Doesn't "heal" imply that he was attacked?
And what kind of role is a role that invests and heals???

Why are you only concerned on the claim now?

Because I've been busy and couldn't dedicate time to the game to focus

[WhyMafia]

Like I've just finished finals so whoopie. I think I said this day1 that I'd be done by now?

[WhyMafia]

On first glance, I can see that Crush has nothing unique about his reads list. Seems fishy to me. Nothing stands out as good or bad, they're just the same reads that have been floating around all game. I am gonna look at his ISO for more because I don't remember much about him, but he's just shot up my scum radar

This is WhyMafia trying to distance.

Distance from what? I scum read crush

[WhyMafia]

Like I've just finished finals so whoopie. I think I said this day1 that I'd be done by now?

Yet you've had opinions else where?

Tell me where?
I made one comment in a reads list and my crush comment
When was the last time I posted something of substance?

[WhyMafia]

Distance from what? I scum read crush

Saying you scum read, and actually scum reading are 2 different things.
Crush is at no risk as of that comment of a lynch... That is what distancing means.

Oh ok
So you want me to build a case on him?

[WhyMafia]

Tell me where?
I made one comment in a reads list and my crush comment
When was the last time I posted something of substance?

You made 8/9 posts after, where they show opinions on Crushes posts, Tex posts and the peoples reads posts.
I do not believe you had the time to check out Tex and Crush but you failed you understand the rainbow reads or that Waffles claimed.

I mean .. I didn't check out their posts
I literally just saw it and commented what I thought on Crush
In addition, I've been scum reading Tex since middle of D1. I haven't checked him out since
I basically just made one post on substance, which was on Crush
This is ridiculous

[WhyMafia]

Oh ok
So you want me to build a case on him?

Sure, you can do that.
It won't change the lynch but it will help with tomorrow.

:Shrug:
Unlike you I don't tunnel my scum reads and keep an open mind lol
If it helps town, I'll do what I can

[WhyMafia]

I mean .. I didn't check out their posts
I literally just saw it and commented what I thought on Crush
In addition, I've been scum reading Tex since middle of D1. I haven't checked him out since
I basically just made one post on substance, which was on Crush
This is ridiculous

At what point did you see Waffles claim?

After D2 started while I quickly skimmed through the end of d1

[WhyMafia]

Scum abr tunneling waffles so hard so scum gets another free kill makes sense right?

VOTE: ABR

I'm not willing to put all my eggs in the SlingshotWaffles basket if we're wrong. We've already lynched 1 PR. I don't want to risk lynching another. Abr has just tunneled him from the start of this day phase. No real case from him he's just making everyone else do his work. I just think this is too huge a gamble after the night 1 pr lynch and abr obviously is okay with the risk. Red flag to me.

Imo it's disturbing that nobody is except for you
Town points for tchill

I skimmed after this post

[WhyMafia]

After D2 started while I quickly skimmed through the end of d1

I skimmed after this post

Day 2 has started!

Nice lie btw.

This is getting ridiculous
Context:
When did you see wafffles
AS I SKIMMED WHICH TOOK PLACE AFTER D2 STARTED
for gosh sake

[WhyMafia]

Wait, your post on me had substance? Ive got to re-read it then, struck me as garbage the first time I read it. Trying to sober up now and probably die of headache tomorrow so give me some time.

No it wasn't a case. But it wasn't a shi* post. All I said was because I was busy, I didn't actively participate

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: why

Nice thoughts.

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Crush
Perfectly fine with his wagon

[WhyMafia]

Yep Transcend's case is a-ok

[WhyMafia]

TChill is scum

[WhyMafia]

I mean nobody's really pushed me as scum
It's just
Oh
"WhyMafia is scum"
"Ok! I'm going to vote him!"

[WhyMafia]

TChill is scum

So in your eyes the scum team is

Chilly, Crush, Tex and Waffles?

Waffles idk
Chill, Crush, Tex likely, but I'm not convinced
Definitely 2/3 though

[WhyMafia]

TChill is scum

What's the motivation in this? I jumped off your wagon, started the crush wagon and you voted with me. Why are you voting WITH your scum read?

My motivation is that as town I consider you scum, and thus someone needed to be eliminated. You can just as easily be bussing. And I'm voting Crush due to Transcend not you

[WhyMafia]

Umm

VOTE: texcat

By your logic
"Why are you voting with your scum read?"

[WhyMafia]

TChill is scum

What's the motivation in this? I jumped off your wagon, started the crush wagon and you voted with me. Why are you voting WITH your scum read?

My motivation is that as town I consider you scum, and thus someone needed to be eliminated. You can just as easily be bussing. And I'm voting Crush due to Transcend not you

I thought Waffles had declared that TChill was vanilla town. If TChill is scum, then Waffles has to be scum. Why aren't you voting Waffles?

im bad at mafia dammit
I thought neopolitian declared vanilla, not vanilla townie
Im confused now
I need to re-think

[WhyMafia]

And that doc part confused me.

yeah
It seems a little op tbh

[WhyMafia]

Ugh
Pretty sure TChill is town then. At this point, there's no point for a scum!Sling to lie
Ugh

Crush and Tex then I suppose

Waffles will be found out eventually

[WhyMafia]

Why, I thought we already had the conversation about the mod message?

Yeah, but it's kinda confusing. And then I was confused about the neopolitian (or however you spell it). It doesn't help that I have never played with one of these either.
All in all, a protective/invest hybrid seems unlikely, but I am loath to lynch you or TChill now

[WhyMafia]

-This one is mostly gut, but see posts 57, 623, 934, and 3818 for further explanation on that.
-His reaction to the initial theta case was ugly
-He OMGUS'd the hell out of vedith by suddenly getting scummy vibes when vedith started to push him
-A lot of the questions he's asked give me more of a blending vibe than they give me the impression he's looking for scum. I've questioned him on some of these questions throughout the game.

So basically everyone's scum case on me is tone? Like idk what to say at this point. If that's the way I come off I can't argue with that. But it's slightly disturbing that almost everyone's scum case on me is tone, as opposed to a genuine case. Regarding the OMGUS, yeah it was an overreaction. Regarding my reaction, it was simply a reaction. If I remember correctly, I liked that case, so took it as I saw it.

[WhyMafia]

I town read crush but i dont want to lynch a pr either. Will catch up and posts thoughts this afternoon

What in your catchup made you think Crush is town?

[WhyMafia]

Well I strongly town read transcend on day 1

Why?

[WhyMafia]

Will you remove it when I flip town?

nope

You scumclaimed here by the way. Just saying.

@Egg what do you think of this OMGUS

[WhyMafia]

Well I strongly town read transcend on day 1

Why?

Gut more so than anything.

So that gave you a strong town read?

[WhyMafia]

Massive hasn't game solved at all. I made a lazy, ignorant play because I wasn't paying attention and he attempted to claim he had a part in that stating it was his "plan". I don't believe that at all. Cheap way to get cred.

What is different between this and Transcend?

[WhyMafia]

nice

[WhyMafia]

Scum abr tunneling waffles so hard so scum gets another free kill makes sense right?

VOTE: ABR

I'm not willing to put all my eggs in the SlingshotWaffles basket if we're wrong. We've already lynched 1 PR. I don't want to risk lynching another. Abr has just tunneled him from the start of this day phase. No real case from him he's just making everyone else do his work. I just think this is too huge a gamble after the night 1 pr lynch and abr obviously is okay with the risk. Red flag to me.

Imo it's disturbing that nobody is except for you
Town points for tchill

I skimmed after this post

Whymafia you claimed I'm scum after posting this and gave no reason for the change. You obviously hopped in with others here to observe that I had done something towny. Explain when and where I went from getting town points to being scum.

Like I mean scum can do towny stuff at times ...
But sure, I'll explain it

[WhyMafia]

Lapsa

Egg, vedith, Transcend

ABR, FourTrouble

Fykus, jjh927

Penguin, Texcat, Massive, WhyMafia

Lore, pisskop

Waffles

Scum abr tunneling waffles so hard so scum gets another free kill makes sense right?

VOTE: ABR

I'm not willing to put all my eggs in the SlingshotWaffles basket if we're wrong. We've already lynched 1 PR. I don't want to risk lynching another. Abr has just tunneled him from the start of this day phase. No real case from him he's just making everyone else do his work. I just think this is too huge a gamble after the night 1 pr lynch and abr obviously is okay with the risk. Red flag to me.

Well I'm thinking we should push abr.

Scum abr tunneling waffles so hard so scum gets another free kill makes sense right?

Unnecessary, unlikely....but possible. Not something I'm willing to explore right now.

Or penguin.

The whymafia vote sounds intriguing to me.

I Scum lean on pisskop too.

Let's get the whymafia lynch going.

Grade A survivalism at work crush.

best part is how you backed out with a chump reason

whytf did you even ask if it wasnt sardonic?

I'd lynch Crush if a wagon builds there.

Mixed reactions, I think I won't vote.

That's because you're scum with him.

At least I'm glad you're voting for the one that has actually a chance to flip mafia.
VOTE: Waffles

Who wants to do a Crush lynch right now?

Srs? Glad people are voting that scum; doesn't vote that scum.

VOTE: crush

This sequence is absolutely ridiculous. You accuse others of not contributing. When have you? Every single scum read/vote was either in search of a wagon or appeasing the widely held town reads. Have you completely abandoned Penguin/Pisskop/ABR? You only started pushing me after Vedith and Egg decided I'm the lynch for today. Your last dozen posts have just been droning "WhyMafia is scum wahhhhh"

[WhyMafia]

Sure I'm l-2 anyway. I'm vanilla town so you can hammer me if you want to. Just posting this for the last time here:

Lapsa

Egg, Tchill

,

Screenplay, Fykus, FourT

Transcend, Shinobi, Pisskop, Vedith

Titus, Penguin, Texcat, Massive, WhyMafia, JJH927, Lore

Waffles

Mafia team is probably Waffles + WhyMafia + X + X. Both X's will probably be in the bottom 3 rows. Pretty sure Transcend is just a donkey, Shinobi could be town the rest is garbage. Good luck for the rest of the game. Protip: Don't blindly follow transcend if you want to win (as town).

How on earth is TChill that far up

[WhyMafia]

I mean they had asked me why I think Tchill is scum
And he's not cleared till waffle flips

[WhyMafia]

There's a mechanical part of me that wants to suggest we get Waffles to check Crush, because I think them both being scum is totally out of the question.

But we should probably just lynch Crush.

*nod* Lynch crush, have Waffles check a scummy slot. Why Mafia is good bc wagon number 2

Sure. I'm fine with being invested

[WhyMafia]

I have been following along but haven't had time to reread everything I wanted.

Crush claimed VT. Wouldn't it be more likely for scum to claim a power role to get out of a lynch?

Isn't that just WIFOM?

[WhyMafia]

That's what I'm asking. I don't think I should be since scum said so. I was just wondering though I'm not sure. I thought I was pretty strongly townread before waffles did his action on me anyway. Either way I'd like to look into Lore or Whymafia. Preferably Whymafia.

TChill is scum zzz

[WhyMafia]

OMGUS. Whymafia also immediately jumped on the crush wagon after I pushed it.

Listen, not everything is about you. I jumped on after Transcend made his case
And how is it OMGUS when

you yourself said I made a good case

Nice discredit. Classic scum trying to dismiss accusations

[WhyMafia]

Lapsa

Egg, vedith, Transcend

ABR, FourTrouble

Fykus, jjh927

Penguin, Texcat, Massive, WhyMafia

Lore, pisskop

Waffles

Scum abr tunneling waffles so hard so scum gets another free kill makes sense right?

VOTE: ABR

I'm not willing to put all my eggs in the SlingshotWaffles basket if we're wrong. We've already lynched 1 PR. I don't want to risk lynching another. Abr has just tunneled him from the start of this day phase. No real case from him he's just making everyone else do his work. I just think this is too huge a gamble after the night 1 pr lynch and abr obviously is okay with the risk. Red flag to me.

Well I'm thinking we should push abr.

Scum abr tunneling waffles so hard so scum gets another free kill makes sense right?

Unnecessary, unlikely....but possible. Not something I'm willing to explore right now.

Or penguin.

The whymafia vote sounds intriguing to me.

I Scum lean on pisskop too.

Let's get the whymafia lynch going.

Grade A survivalism at work crush.

best part is how you backed out with a chump reason

whytf did you even ask if it wasnt sardonic?

I'd lynch Crush if a wagon builds there.

Mixed reactions, I think I won't vote.

That's because you're scum with him.

At least I'm glad you're voting for the one that has actually a chance to flip mafia.
VOTE: Waffles

Who wants to do a Crush lynch right now?

Srs? Glad people are voting that scum; doesn't vote that scum.

VOTE: crush

This sequence is absolutely ridiculous. You accuse others of not contributing. When have you? Every single scum read/vote was either in search of a wagon or appeasing the widely held town reads. Have you completely abandoned Penguin/Pisskop/ABR? You only started pushing me after Vedith and Egg decided I'm the lynch for today. Your last dozen posts have just been droning "WhyMafia is scum wahhhhh"

@Pisskop
I can't add on Atm
But look at his recent posts
Tell me what's towny

[WhyMafia]

I want pressure on my vote

You seem a little scummier because you made a good case on crush then like Shinobi said you talked him off the waffles wagon but you're not scummier than Whymafia. From what I can tell scum didn't know waffles was scum anyway.

Untrue

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: WhyMafia

He scum slipped

Screen: this is true but he was traitor so if he was pink mafia then he wouldn't have known that unless he coded or smt.

?????

[WhyMafia]

OMGUS. Whymafia also immediately jumped on the crush wagon after I pushed it.

Listen, not everything is about you. I jumped on after Transcend made his case
And how is it OMGUS when

you yourself said I made a good case

Nice discredit. Classic scum trying to dismiss accusations

I opened the day showing interested in lynching you and you immediately posted I was scum lol.

And have you made a case?

[WhyMafia]

Oh
Re-read my ISO
Looks like I voted him first, then transcend's case cemented my read
My bad

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: TChill

[WhyMafia]

Sorry about saying transcend said something that vedith said. I haven't made a case on Whymafia yet. I also doubt I'd get killed but if waffles was supposed to clear someone do you think his own mafia team killed him? That way he wouldn't get the clear wrong?

That makes no sense
Why waste a NK when if wrong waffles would just get lynched, and isn't waffles confirmed to be what he claimed to be? Just mafia of it tho

[WhyMafia]

@Fykus
Have you caught up yet? Also, what info did you get from Crush's flip, after all, that was the reason you hammered your town read

[WhyMafia]

@TChill get out of your zombie esque mindset and for once make a case on me. I can't really change your mind of me if you don't say what's scummy about me ... ask me questions about my ISO

I don't like Fykus's ISO at all

[WhyMafia]

TChill
Stop throwing shade and say what is scummy about what I said

[WhyMafia]

I hopped off your wagon, voted crush then you did the same. I speak up about potentially lynching fykus and you suddenly say his iso is scummy. That's twice you've agreed with me when I probably make the worst cases to vote anyone in this game.

Not everything is about you. Re-read context regarding crush. Regarding Fykus, it's cause there's more stuff that's bothering me. I'll make a case later

[WhyMafia]

I agree it's not all about me. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that said anything about fykus here recently and if I'm wrong I apologize.

I'm referring to crush
Regarding Fykus, I was planning on making a case on him, and for some reason, you decided to share him yourself. Like what am I supposed to do??? Ignore my scum read??

[WhyMafia]

Can someone tell me where's the case on me so I can actually you know, defend myself

[WhyMafia]

Shinobi,
WHYMAFIA:
-This one is mostly gut, but see posts 57, 623, 934, and 3818 for further explanation on that.
-His reaction to the initial theta case was ugly
-He OMGUS'd the hell out of vedith by suddenly getting scummy vibes when vedith started to push him
-A lot of the questions he's asked give me more of a blending vibe than they give me the impression he's looking for scum. I've questioned him on some of these questions throughout the game.

TEXCAT:
-There was weak stuff early that I didn't pay much attention to, but still questioned like her reaction to lapsa's confirmation, the naked vote on penguin, and the very sideline reaction to wagons shifting.
-The reaction to lapsa getting some votes rubbed me the wrong way.
-She was very quick to sheep vedith after he called something a "scum claim" when it wasn't. Weird for such a passive player
-She almost seemed too sure scum have daytalk with her theory that scum gave waffles his claim, but then needed to be prodded to give names of players capable of coming up with it.
-Null reading tchill seems impossible to me so that's weird.
-The assumption that lore or waffles is lying stands out. I'm still trying to sort that for sure, but it could be either scum doubtcasting claims or scum with more info than the rest of us about what happened last night.

JJH:
-This is all left over from Gamma. I haven't really seen anything from jjh that I can get a read off of.

TRANSCEND:
-I admit some of this might just be frustration with the way he plays, but he did have one bad 180, a reads list with wayyyyy too many town, and a moment where he was getting wagoned for not doing anything and chose that of all moments to be the one time he gives meaningful contribution (although to be fair he also had the crush case recently). I get the feeling he's trying to survive, but give off the "*shrug* I don't give a fuck" impression

PISSKOP:
-I'm rushing now because I'm headed in to work, but there was early buddying, defensiveness to vedith, and a weird reaction to the pmyst kill.

And with that, I'm back to work for two days.

Ok
I still don't see where I'm scum apart from you saying my reaction was bad. I liked the case, so I voted for it
What was scummy about what I said? I have no idea how I've been blending when I've pushed tes even when practically everyone town reads him ...
And OMGUS is hardly a tell imo. It's my general frustration that I'm being scum read and don't know what I can do to prevent it

[WhyMafia]

Yo wm what are your thouhts on the multiball theory?

??? The one where we are saying it's multiball? Or something else

[WhyMafia]

Sigh
I think it's multi ball as well

[WhyMafia]

I'm VT

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: fykus
And PLEASE I WANT TO PROVE IM TOWN BUT I NEED SOMEONE TO TELL ME WHY I AM SCUMekdsjsis